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How about LA should boycott its own state

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...tacks-ariz-la/


They have the pretty close to the same damn law

Below is a copy of section 834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

Here is Arizona's SB 1070

ARTICLE 8. ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS

14 11-1051. Cooperation and assistance in enforcement of

15 immigration laws; indemnification

16 A. NO OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR

17 OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY ADOPT A POLICY THAT LIMITS OR

18 RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS TO LESS THAN THE FULL

19 EXTENT PERMITTED BY FEDERAL LAW.

20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY

21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS

22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS

23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,

24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE

25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

27 C. IF AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IS

28 CONVICTED OF A VIOLATION OF STATE OR LOCAL LAW, ON DISCHARGE FROM

29 IMPRISONMENT OR ASSESSMENT OF ANY FINE THAT IS IMPOSED, THE ALIEN SHALL BE

30 TRANSFERRED IMMEDIATELY TO THE CUSTODY OF THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND

31 CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT OR THE UNITED STATES CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION.

32 D. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW, A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MAY

33 SECURELY TRANSPORT AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES

34 AND WHO IS IN THE AGENCY'S CUSTODY TO A FEDERAL FACILITY IN THIS STATE OR TO

35 ANY OTHER POINT OF TRANSFER INTO FEDERAL CUSTODY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE

36 JURISDICTION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

where did you come up with this?

It is just my own thought. Many political leaders are opposed to the AZ law. Many of the leaders from the states surrounding AZ are not happy with it not because it is tough on immigration or they feel it is immoral, but because it is going to drive these immigrants out of AZ and into their states. I read the other day that they estimate as many as 40,000 illegals have already moved from AZ into Cali just since the passage of the law. Add into that the fact that many illegals that would have gone to AZ are now going to skip that state and go right to Cali has Cali not very happy.

So they decide if AZ is going to kick them and pass a law that sends all the illegals scrambling to Cali then Cali is going to kick back and pass a law stopping some business from profiting in Cali.

It is just a thought, but I think it has a ring of truth to it and I feel it might be more realistic that just some of the leaders of Cali morally opposing the law. It is basically like the city of LA saying to AZ, "If you are going to send your burdens and your troubles to us, don't expect to then sell us your wares and profit off of us."

you do realize *they* have no way of calculating the # of illegals fleeing az eh? let alone where they are going.

also, while the media is full of shit, i've read that 13 other states are moving to adopt a similar law, including those states surrounding az.

I found this in the comments of a news article thought I would share!



Let's say I break into your house (This was an email I received. It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.) Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house.

Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, 'No! I like it here. It's better than my house. I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters:
You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are Required to feed me. You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan. You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family. My husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest. (except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house.

And what a deal it is for me!!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior. Oh yeah, and I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so that you can communicate with me.

Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! America is populated and governed by idiots.

If you agree, pass it on (in English). If not blow it off......... along with your future Social Security funds and a lot of the former benefits of being an American Citizen.



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I was reading somewhere that it was costing the state 2.7 billion dollars, regarding the widespread illegal alien problem. But apparently racial profiling, or the alleged constitutionality takes precedence over bankrupting a state.

We not going to spend any of our money in California.....that was my intent..... no matter what county or city, if it affects the revenues of the state, it will hit home.
Cali wants to boycott us, fine, I am all for it, in return my boycott cost the the state....

It works two ways, ya know :winkwink:

How can a state so bankrupt that it is forced to issue IOUs, boycott anything? I don't think this would affect Arizona in the slightest.

The problem is, is that they are awaikening to harsh reality check......their free lunch is over and now they have "NO" American rights .......oh no!
They have abused our laws, they have shown totall disregard for the laws of this country and what they fail to realize, is that they had no rights as an American citizen in the beginning.
This just shows how stupid some of these fucking assholes are :321GFY

That's what I have heard from those who live in border states. Especially southern.

Mexican President Calderone in Washington to whine about immigration law


In Mexico, the political class from right to left has closed ranks to deplore the Arizona measure, which has dominated front pages and TV news here. Elected officials from the three major parties are exhorting Calderón to challenge it in Washington, where on Wednesday he will be greeted with pomp and ceremony at the White House and feted with high-end Mexican fusion food at a state dinner, and will address a joint session of Congress.

http://az2010project.com/

Look at how much crap is left behind as they migrate watch the slide show

I have some respect for both sides of the immigration argument, but ultimately the illegals and their young American born children have got to go back home to Mexico.

We just can't afford to continue providing for impoverished Mexicans who fled their country.

The Mexican government is a total failure. Amazing that they can be located just south of the richest nation in history, yet parts of Mexico have 3rd world conditions. In some places children actually visit garbage dumps looking for food.

The Mexican and Chinese workforce is similar. Mexico really dropped the ball there. All of those Chinese factories could have been in Mexico instead.

Looks like TJ to me.

Border Fende or Farce




Matt I agree Mexico definitely dropped the ball they even have NAFTA on their side

i think we know where tanker stands on the issue!

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Fuck this piece of shit!!!!

Hopefully he will choke on his next dinner and we won't have to hear any more from his worthless pathetic POS! ........

As much as I miss Los Angeles, I don't miss the illegals.

The day we went to pick up our uhaul trailer to move, I swear there was a pack of them out front of the uhaul place. While we were standing outside waiting, this drunk mexican guy (probably an illegal) looked right at us and proceeded to fling a paper plate of refried beans straight into the air, and the shit flung everywhere and almost got all over me! And I'm supposed to give a shit about this guy's human rights?? LO-F-L. I will never forget that moment. My man and I used extra self control to just not say anything, because the uhaul manager was mexican and obviously let them hang out there.

It is a real problem, and the liberals whining and defending them probably live in nice neighborhoods where there aren't illegal mexicans leaving their lunch trash outside their homes.

And damn are the politicians having a great time wasting money, time, and resources on this shit. Fucking LA.

You should have taken a crow bar and split the useless fuckers head open....:2 cents:

Sure there is no way to know for sure how many illegals are moving to Cali or anywhere. Hell, there is no fool proof way of knowing how many illegals are even in any state at any give time. So all of it is just an estimation.

I also realize that many other states are moving to to pass similar laws and I can't blame any of the state surrounding AZ for doing that. Logic would tell you that illegals are leaving AZ for states that are going to be more friendly to them so those states surrounding AZ are now going to act and try to pass their own laws to help protect themselves. I don't blame them. I actually like the law other than the part of it that forces legal immigrants to carry their papers on them 24/7.

That doesn't change my opinion on what the city of LA has done. They are going to get more illegals in that city because of the AZ law. Anyone can assume that. It will happen because illegals will now not go to AZ, but instead Cali and some of those in AZ are now moving to Cali so the city of LA has decided that if AZ is going to shift the burden of dealing with a lot of these illegals to them, the are not going to reward them by giving spending money with AZ based businesses. I'm sure some of it has to do with them just not like the law and thinking it is immoral. But I think a lot of it has to do with them just being pissed that the illegal problem is being shifted to them and they are too spineless to enact a similar law so they are going to take a hit in the budget for it.

sounds like california is better off if you stay in az!

we have enough to deal with.

Yep! No sense spending my money where I am not wanted :winkwink:

Yea, your state has lots of problems, all our illegals are coming your way ;)

Not for nuthin' but your illegals are not even going to be noticed. You could have the entire city come for a visit and we would barely notice.

well, it is artichoke picking season.

And in a nut shell that is everything that is wrong with this country:

" Councilman Paul Koretz stood up and took issue with another recent Arizona decision about education. As explained by the Wall Street Journal, "the Arizona Department of Education recently began telling school districts that teachers whose spoken English it deems to be heavily accented or ungrammatical must be removed from classes for students still learning English."

Koretz said that if that were a federal law, it would be "the very beginning of what went on in Nazi Germany."

WOW so a "teacher" who can't speak good english is removed from teaching an english class. WTF is WRONG WITH THAT? jesus christ people throw out common sense when they get political with all this shit and try to think with their bleeding hearts or their political party instead of thinking with their fucking minds.

this country is doomed' It isn't a requirement obviously anymore for people who live here to speak english, like it was for many many years, now the fucking teacher teaching english class doesn't have to speak good english. That is like having a fucking math teacher that can't count to 20 using his fingers and toes. Would you remove him???/

retards, fucking retards are ruining this country.

On top of that to boycott the BUSINESSES in AZ??? WTF did the business owners there do? So does that mean that everyone in LA should boycott CCBILL NOW?

LA council men should be shot for being so fucking retarded.

that makes sense but since it makes sense that probably isn't want they are thinking, they are just playing politics.

but if what you said is the case then Cali should adopt the same laws. Then they all would go to Texas, then if Texas and N. Mexico adapted it maybe some of them would..... drum roll........... enter legally since it would be easier to do it legally then it would be to get caught and sent back faster.


It's all about politics, the liberals defending them are just doing so because they know it will get them votes. If they couldn't potentially get votes from all of these illegals becoming legal then they wouldn't give a shit about them.

I agree completely. I would like to see every state have a similar law. As I have said in the past I am a little worried that the law requires legal immigrants to carry their papers on them 24/7, but I think we will have to wait and see if something like that is abused.

But, yes, I think every state should get tough on illegals and I also think that they should build a fence along the border with Mexico and have it patrolled by military people.

As it is right now if someone gets deported there is a decent change they are back in the country before the officer that caught them is even off his or her shift.

I don't see what is wrong with them carrying their "papers" on them. Really what is the big deal. We are all suppose to carry our government issued IDS / Drivers licenses at all times. So they have to carry an extra piece of paper. Big fucking deal. I am not crying because I have to carry my license on me legally. If I lived in an area where I need additional documents because I fit the profile STATISTICS could back up for a demographic that was causing harm to me and the rest of the area, I would carry t he additional documents required. I doubt we are talking about docs that they would need to a brief case to carry it around. It's prolly 1 page, fold it up, put it behind your license / id. End of story, oh and please be fucking happy to be here and stop bitching about having to carry an extra piece of paper. thanks. enjoy your stay.

In theory it is something that is easy to comply with and not a huge inconvenience in your life. And, if I go on vacation to a foreign country I always make sure that I have my passport on me at all times so you would think legal immigrants here would see that as a similar situation.

Here is where I kind of have an issue with it.

For starters you aren't required by law to have ID on you unless you are doing something that requires it. If I go for a walk down the street, I don't have to take ID with me. It might be a good idea in case something happens to me and I get hit by a car or something, they can identify me, but it isn't illegal for me to go for a walk without my ID. This law could make that so if I were a legal immigrant. Say for example the police get a call that someone just stole a cell phone out of car. They give a description and there is a cop right in the general area. He drives around and sees me walking down the street and I happen to kind of look like I might fit the description of the suspect. So he stops me. If I have forgotten my papers at home I am now guilty of committing a crime. Realistically, I will end up showing them my papers and charges will either be dropped or never filed, but it could be a major pain in my ass and there could be cops/DA's/Judges that decide to make a point and up fining this person or fucking them over so they serve as an example. It really bothers me to think something like that could happen to someone just because they didn't happen to have their papers on them.

Moreover it is the general implication of what this means. Things like this can be a slippery slope. It starts with legal immigrants then pretty soon everyone has to have some kind of special ID showing that they are legal. That is a big step, that is how things sometimes end up going. I can see a situation where, in an effort to be politically correct, they make it mandatory for every cop to ask anyone they pull over for their papers just to make sure that they are legal. This way they aren't profiling, they are just checking everyone on the road. I would like to think I live in a country where I could go to the store and not risk getting pulled over by the police and harassed about my legal status because I might have a broken tail light (Well, actually I wouldn't worry about that because I live in a small town and know all the police on a first name basis, but most people don't have that situation and if I leave town and go somewhere else it could happen.)

Maybe this is a big jump, but things like this happen.

When I saw born in East LA I was for illegal immigration reform.

When I saw thousands marching down the main streets of LA with Mexican flags and not one immigration agent did a fucking thing about it, I did a 180.

Those fucking feds are getting paid by my taxes.

It was that simple :1orglaugh

I blame the government more than them for letting it get to this point. But they have some big fucking Mexican balls on them.

You;re probably right, but at least our tax dollars won't be supporting them any more....the bill will be on the tax payers in Cali ;)

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Totally smutnut, it's the government's fault there's been a ridiculous increase in illegal immigration from the south!

So then is the City of Los Angeles promising to not accept Arizona tax dollars when it, and the state of California, hit up the Federal Government for a bailout for their bankrupt city and state?


Just wondering...


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