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directfiesta 05-25-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17169905)
what exactly would people be arrested for?

Since when do you need a reason ?

Pick them up and fly them to BPtanamo :2 cents:

Mr. Romance 05-25-2010 06:41 AM

The human race will and is destroying the planet:mad: Greed will kill us all

Mr. Romance

babebuns 05-25-2010 06:47 AM

Most of you people are fucking retarded and the ignorance is amazing in this thread.

tranza 05-25-2010 06:47 AM

It amazes me that they STILL haven't been able to fix this problem.

This leak is going to affect ALL the globe!!

Scott McD 05-25-2010 07:07 AM

Amazingly, the media coverage here in the UK has been minimum to say the least... :2 cents:

Scott McD 05-25-2010 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17169838)
Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

That's as silly a statement as the people who post in animal abuse threads saying if you eat meat you are just as bad as the animal abusers themselves... :2 cents:

Ethersync 05-25-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17170556)
Why is all the rage and blame put on BP? What about Halliburton, the company that cemented the drill into place and had just completed that task only 20hrs before the blowout?

This whole fucking mess stinks. :mad:

Yes, exactly. And Halliburton bought a company back in April, before the spill started, that is being contracted to help fix the problem. So they helped create the problem and now they are being paid to help fix it. Funny how often it works out this way...

SmokeyTheBear 05-25-2010 07:24 AM

They just don't want half of the gulf of mexico filled with families snapping pictures getting in the way.

bp can't have anyone arrested, the police generally do that.

Davy 05-25-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17169792)
grew up swimming in these waters

Well, you can certainly forget about that. And your children will never be able to swim there, too.

But what's up with BP threatening photographers? Fuckers!

SmokeyTheBear 05-25-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17169838)
Saying this is sad, or an outrage and then jumping into your oil powered vehicle, to get to your gas heated, and oil product based home, is kind of silly. We pay for this product, we consume more and more of it everyday, we demand the product and we even cry for it to be cheaper -> WE DID THIS.

BP didnt set out that week to wreck a ecosystem (yes it did happen) but they were only answering OUR supply and demand craze.

The blame for this lies on ALL OF US.

To think any different is foolish.

not at all. if a house building contractor uses lead pipes in my house to build it to cut costs, it's hardly my fault for wanting a house , or even a cheap house> It is however my responsibility once i know the hazards of lead pipes exist to help make sure nobody gets swindled, just as it is our responsibility to make sure things like this don't happen again. When the valdez crashed they made the oil companies spend billions to upgrade teir equipment so it woulnt happen again , i don't think they went far enough but i think its clear we probably prevented a few valdez's just through these efforts.

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17171701)

bp can't have anyone arrested, the police generally do that.

As I said, the coast guard and local sheriffs are the ones keeping people out. Under "BPs Rules"

http://motherjones.com/environment/2...and-isle-beach

Quote:

"We don't need more of a black eye than we already have."

"But it wasn't BP that was yelling at us, it was the sheriff's office," we say.

"Yeah, I know, but we have…a very strong relationship."

"What do you mean? You have a lot of sway over the sheriff's office?"

"Oh yeah."

"How much?"

"A lot."

Platinumpimp 05-25-2010 08:02 AM

Already for weeks now they are trying to close that leak. WTF with all the technology available these days, it passes beyond my imagination why that leak is still there especially because of the consequences.

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 08:02 AM

People not here do not understand how we are being stopped from doing anything.

watch this


Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 08:44 AM

also, to the people saying "civilians shouldnt be there to get in the way" type of things LOL

Notice in this vid grab there is no one out there cleaning anything, this is just miles and miles of oil. There is nothing to get in the way of, this is PUBLIC WATER.

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/BP-oil-spill.jpg

THAts is precisely why we making these videos, to show no one is even cleaning anything, there is no one doing anything, just oil for miles.

see the horizon? not a soul in sight, just oil.

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/bp-oil-spill.html

DG_Nick 05-25-2010 08:47 AM

None of those idiot republicans like Rush can dispute the severity of this now that it has hit our shores.

Gerco 05-25-2010 08:56 AM

YA, using those chemicals was and is like tossing gas on the fire...

Nikki_Licks 05-25-2010 08:56 AM

How could they arrest anyone on the ocean filming. I would think that is a violation of rights. Maybe people deciding to film should be prepared and go fully armed, after all, BP deserves nothing less....

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 17171997)
How could they arrest anyone on the ocean filming. I would think that is a violation of rights. Maybe people deciding to film should be prepared and go fully armed, after all, BP deserves nothing less....

we dont ride in cars or boat without guns down here. its like mandatory to carry down here LOL

CPimp 05-25-2010 09:27 AM

Your government will do whatever it takes, for as long as it takes, to stop this crisis.

/obama

Bull mother fucking shit!

This shit pisses me off terribly. I have to honestly say that is has not directly affected me YET but all I have to say is that I feel bad for the people that have to suffer due to the ignorance of whoever is to blame. And don't pull me into your little blame game either, I don't want any part of it.

Nikki_Licks 05-25-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17172026)
we dont ride in cars or boat without guns down here. its like mandatory to carry down here LOL

Good to hear!
I hope you folks expose BP and the lies they are telling the media.....keep up the good work :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 17172122)
Good to hear!
I hope you folks expose BP and the lies they are telling the media.....keep up the good work :thumbsup

dont even need a permit to carry in car or boat LOL

parts of america are indeed still free.

Tom_PM 05-25-2010 09:37 AM

The whole drill baby drill thing, and the NOTION that " it helps get us off foreign oil" is a LIE. Make sure you realise this. It's a LIE that drilling offshore helps us get energy independant, because it DOESNT.

We sell the oil on the open market. We do not stockpile it and use it only in the United States. Therefore, it is simply a LIE to say that it helps get us off foreign oil. It's a simple lie, for simple people. Voters. Make no mistake.

Sure, what we sell it for helps offset the money we pay for other things. Like other oil.. but that doesnt get us off the desperate need for foreign oil, never has, never was, never will. Never.
.

Raf1 05-25-2010 09:44 AM

horrible stuff...

Nikki_Licks 05-25-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17172132)
dont even need a permit to carry in car or boat LOL

parts of america are indeed still free.

That is why I love AZ :winkwink:

dallasnovelty 05-25-2010 09:59 AM

Man this is a crazy mess and it will take a long time before this will be resolved and the beaches/fishing/tourist/economy gets back to normal. Atleast with a hurricane you just wait for the water to go down and go clean up and rebuild but with oil its a completely different ball game.

I have lots of friends who also grew up down there and they are not sure what they will do or where their families will go because this has wrecked their way of life and their means to pay the bills. Not really sure who all is responsible for this mess but the oil companies knew this day would happen eventually with as much as they drill.

This is one of those situations where you could blame BP totally but there were alot of other hands in the pot and they all want the most profit possible. And without stricter drilling regulations requiring companies to install more safety valves/systems and keep emergency equipment on stand by this could happen again. I am not defending BP or have my head buried in the sand, this so terrible for everyone that there is not anything placing blame on one particular company will solve.

Here is to hoping kids will be able to swim on those beaches and people will be able to fish in those waters again in our lifetime :(

quiet 05-25-2010 10:04 AM

whole thing makes me nauseous.

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17172253)
whole thing makes me nauseous.

you syhouldve smelled the smell of burning oil the day this happened.

I took my daughter for a walk (i hold her cuz she was 5 months old) and when I brought her in, my wife asked me whats that smell in her clothes. I felt terrible I hadnt noticed the smell because we had been inside working and when I went outside thought it was just a fire or something...

it was a faint smell but as night went on, and day after it got worse, it was the smell of burning oil

Death man, nothing else else, its the smell of death.

CDSmith 05-25-2010 11:10 AM

Jeez Louise the New Orleans area has taken a shitkicking this past decade. Hurricane after hurricane culminating with Katrina, and now this, this black diahrea bubbling up from hell's bowels. This BP company is going to pay but whatever, the damage is done and the fallout from this disaster will have lasting environmental repurcutions spanning... who knows how long?

As to the "we are all to blame" argument, I can only speak for myself. I cut my need for petroleum products by a large margine many years ago. Since working from home I don't need to drive the car all that much. My house is heated with natural gas, not oil. The day a line of decent electric or hydrogen fuel cell cars becomes available I'm buying one on the spot.

I wish to hell N America would get off the oil teet and put far more money and effort into developing the clean/natural power sources, wind, solar, etc. If the world keeps on the way it's going with the oil oil oil shit it will very likely be the thing that causes WW III.

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17172494)
The day a line of decent electric or hydrogen fuel cell cars becomes available I'm buying one on the spot.

As someone who has wanted to buy one for a very long time and was excited about them when they came out, Electric cars are a controversy in themselves

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/...ctric-car.html

watch this DVD to see how California was getting ready for them and then,... "sweep, under the rug" They demlished them all

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...FU/congrats-20

CDSmith 05-25-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17172521)
As someone who has wanted to buy one for a very long time and was excited about them when they came out, Electric cars are a controversy in themselves

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/...ctric-car.html

watch this DVD to see how California was getting ready for them and then,... "sweep, under the rug" They demlished them all

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...FU/congrats-20

There was a guy up in Canada who a few years back started making electric cars I think based on the golf cart model. They were absolutely nifty but were quite small and with a low top speed so they only had limited use, so he decided to pitch his car to national parks. One such park tried one out and ended up buying a bunch of them and were using them when the government found out and immediately shut them down as well as his enterprise.

It was on some consumer-watch type program on TV not too long ago. All I could do was shake my head in disgust.

So even the smallest move in that direction gets the plug pulled. Because it's oil or nothing. Oil is money, oil is what drives industrial and corporate America.

epitome 05-25-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17171423)
Exactly, the problem here isn't that companies want to make money, the real problem is that government interference in the economy (limited liability etc) created a situation where companies have no reason the prevent problems.

The solution to the problem is: less government. In a free market system, in a pure capitalist system, companies would be liable for 100% (or more) of the damages caused.... a clear incentive to care about safety.

Your idea is spot on...

The problem is that the oil companies lobbied for the same laws that put caps on their liability.

Corporations love regulation when it benefits them and hate it when it hinders them. This BP spill is a perfect example.

It's a giant fucking mess that needs a lot of unraveling.

spazlabz 05-25-2010 12:30 PM

I'm sorry Fletch, I feel for you and your family I really do. This spill is just tragic in every sense of the word. My thoughts are with you and all those people down there that are being directly effected right this very minute. I pray that they are able to stop the massive pumping of oil into the Gulf (really 'spill' or 'leak' just does not to it justice) and that the aftermath is somehow not as severe as it appears it will be


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