Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176274)

So you're saying we should disregard the Asian immigrants here and the 14 different dialects they speak? Including Mongolian. Or should all the public servants learn all 14 different dialects as well?

I grew up around the corner from some Mongolians, spoke perfect English, I had a big crush on Julie!

Funny how when I grew up in California, we celebrated Cinco De Mayo, we learned Spanish in the 6th grade, we learned about the culture of Mexico, but you're telling me they shouldn't have to do that?

Should we only be concerned about large populations of a different language?

pequeño trabajo para rentabilidad grande

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17176270)

Really? Here's the stats you posted...

"Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:

Race
--------------
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4"


Here's your assertion..."From what I see and based off the number of people, White people collect FAR more welfare than Blacks and Latino combined, the population difference is huge."


Please explain how you came to your conclusion.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176308)

White: 4,701,013 = 1,823,993 people on welfare
Black: 210,069 = 78,145 people on welfare
Hispanic: 1,785,737 = 317,861 people on welfare

78,145 + 317,861 = 396,006

Difference of 1.4 million more whites on welfare. So really we could say, whites collect more welfare than all other races combined together.

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17176321)

Where are these numbers from and what do they represent?

38.8% of welfare recipients are white
37.2% are black
17.8 are hispanic

Which means blacks and hispanics combined comprise 55% of welfare recipients. Which is greater than 38.8%

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17176321)

Where are these numbers from and what do they represent?

38.8% of welfare recipients are white
37.2% are black
17.8 are hispanic

Which means blacks and hispanics combined comprise 55% of welfare recipients. Which is greater than 38.8%

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17176327)

My post was in reverence to the Taco bell post. BUT with that said, the companies (or you) should always be in a position to report them if they do hire illegals. Period.

But the truth, have you ever seen an unemployed US teenager go to a farm owner during harvest time? ...- it would never happen.

There is a solution to this problem like they do in Europe. The Government there finds you a (any) job and if you refuse they cut your benefits. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176334)

This is very basic stuff... when you have an astounding amount more of one thing, it's going to be a larger amount even if the other two are added together. As I said in the original quote you shared of mine, "the population difference is huge."

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17176336)

who gives a fuck its just more of your racial bullshit :2 cents:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176201)

Should he have like dropped kicked the Mexican President? What about when other leaders have bashed us for war or economic plans and various other things, did those presidents drop kick them? When our President visits them and says things those Country people don't like, do they drop kick our president or just throw a shoe at them?

Your hate for his actions is rather crazy when every single president has done what he has.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176285)

Well, as the saying goes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. The world isn't perfect. I didn't build it.

Originally Posted by cyber (Post 17174271)

ok fine I'll bite.

Let's say I live in a fake country, ok? this country is ruled by an evil dictator, right. So, me and my fellow countrymen overthrow this dictator, and assume control of the country. Easy enough, right?

Ok, then the US comes in and gives money and training to very bad men. The money comes from selling weapons (bombs) to another country, then funneling that money illegally into my country. Not only do they bring in money, but they train these guys on how to lay landmines. Not militarily strategic placements, no. They lay these landmines outside of villages where thousands of innocent civilians blow up by stepping on them. Still with me? Because in addition to all this, your country also sells cocaine in my country to raise money.

The end result is that my country is left in absolute shambles. It'll take decades to properly fix up.

Have you guessed what country I am from?

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176343)

How do I know if they hired illegals and it sounds like someone did report them...

Of course kids aren't going to farm for 14 hours a day for $10 in 120 heat and farms can't pay them the legal wage. That's why farms have easy immigration paths to take for harvest time and don't need illegals.

The real solution to our problem is to make it criminal to hire illegals.. like Oklahoma did, which of course nobody went off the handle about.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I don't like high debt

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I don't like having the best military on the planet and have my leader bowing to leaders of third world nations

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate political correctness when dealing with terrorist.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate the government passing huge bills for entitlements saying they are going to save money and not really knowing if they will or not just to find out later they don't save, they cost.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate a president that runs on promises he hasn't kept

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

He won't say Radical Islamic Extremist, but he can call a peaceful movement of concerned US CITIZENS Tea Baggers, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE!!!

Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 17174263)

I just received this from a friend :1orglaugh

Recently large demonstrations have taken place
across the country protesting the fact that Congress
is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

Certain people are angry that
The US might protect its own
borders, might make it harder
to sneak into this country and,
once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand
the thinking behind these protests.
let's say I break into your house.
let's say that when you discover
me in your house, you insist that I leave.

But I say, 'No! I like it here.
it's better than my house. I've made all
the beds and washed the
dishes and did the laundry
and swept the floors. I've
done all the things you don't
like to do. I'm hard-working
and honest
(except for when I broke into your house).

according to the protesters:
You are Required to let me stay in your house
You are Required to feed me
You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan
You are Required to Educate my kids
You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family
(my husband will do all of your yard work because
He is also hard-working and honest, except for that
Breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out,
I will call my friends who will picket your
house carrying signs that proclaim my
RIGHT to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have
a nicer house than I do, and I'm just
trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working
and honest, person, except for well,
you know, I did break into your house
and what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a
fraction of the cost of my keep, and
there is nothing you can do about it
without being accused of cold, Uncaring,
selfish, prejudiced, and Bigoted behavior.

Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn
MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can
communicate with me.

:angrysoap


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176437)

No, you can't , there will always be some poor SOB that won't be happy.
But some new laws that should be enforced need to come up.

If you want to be a citizen, learn the language
If you want to be a citizen, do so legally
If you want to be a citizen, embrace being a US citizen and don't fly an Mexican flag, if that's what you love, then you can go back.

We spend BILLIONS in security forces in other countries, lets spend a little in this country!

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17176453)

I never really thought about it this way.

If your Mexican and your here legally, welcome to the United States. You can be my friend.

If your here illegally, driving a car without insurance, not paying taxes, sucking down my resources, and jacking up my health insurance because you go to the ER because you don't have your own insurance and need medical assistance.... Fuck off.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176452)

Who does?

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176478)

Do you really think Obama was saying that in a good light?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176466)

LOL, this redneck reasoning is funny.
I'm a white dude with a Scottish background. I love Mexico, and I will fly a Mexican flag off the front of my house right now in the middle of suburbia if I think it'll make me happy. Being an American citizen means I can do whatever the fuck I want. I'm sorry you don't agree with that, but you don't have to. Welcome to America.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176481)

Doubt it. No one does. LOL :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176274)

So you're saying we should disregard the Asian immigrants here and the 14 different dialects they speak? Including Mongolian. Or should all the public servants learn all 14 different dialects as well?

I grew up around the corner from some Mongolians, spoke perfect English, I had a big crush on Julie!

Funny how when I grew up in California, we celebrated Cinco De Mayo, we learned Spanish in the 6th grade, we learned about the culture of Mexico, but you're telling me they shouldn't have to do that?

Should we only be concerned about large populations of a different language?

pequeño trabajo para rentabilidad grande

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176504)

It's just hard listening to a president bashing a HUGE group of peaceful citizens concerned about the economy, whatever their name is. Then letting the Mexican President bash Arizona law in congress.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176504)

I remember when protesters where against Bush because of the wars

Well the wars are still here, where did the protesters go?

Originally Posted by cyber (Post 17174300)

I'm not seeking to gain attention. It just irks me that so many people feel illegal immigration is a clear cut thing.

My mother moved to the states because of how dangerous Nicaragua had become thanks to the US involvement with the Contras. We were wetbacks here for years (16 years to be exact) before we were granted amnesty... basically an apology for fucking up my home country.

The US gives huge subsidies to US farmers, who then sell their food so cheaply south of the border that local farmers are unable to compete, because they do not receive subsidies from their government. So, they lose their farms. What should they do? Lose their farms and work for $2 an hour in their home country, or come here illegally and make much more than that?

I'm not calling America evil. I'm saying that it has major involvement in all this. In the words of Jeremiah Wright, America's "chickens coming home to roost".

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17176551)

You missed my point in the original reply. If an American employer can hire a Mexican (illegal or not) that has no US education, can't speak the language, and will work better for less...should be a clear sign to ANY American to fucking wake up and improve your life. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 17176355)

Poor little chango can dish it out but he can't take it so he cries racism. :(
So typical of you people.

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17176490)

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

Name a president that has bowed to another foreign leader, you think Reagan did?
And yes, drop kick the SOB, Obama knew what he was going to say before he said it, you know that!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I don't have a hate for the government, just the asshole in charge, just like I'm sure you said the same thing when Bush was in office, so fuck off in those statements

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

The number was left out in the news release, because it compares what Bush did to what Obama is doing, Obama is sending about a fifth of what Bush sent and I have yet to see a news report to state where they are going, it says they are going to the border, not to the Arizona border.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

You keep calling me pathetic, is that the best you have?
I don't like high debt

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I don't like having the best military on the planet and have my leader bowing to leaders of third world nations

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate political correctness when dealing with terrorist.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate the government passing huge bills for entitlements saying they are going to save money and not really knowing if they will or not just to find out later they don't save, they cost.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

I hate a president that runs on promises he hasn't kept, and comparing that to past presidents makes it right in your book, you're a fucking tool for even saying that!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

He won't say Radical Islamic Extremist, but he can call a peaceful movement of concerned US CITIZENS Tea Baggers, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE!!!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176410)

And gods sake, can that ass hat just once look at the fucking camera when he gives a speech? that's what liars do when they can't look you in the eye!

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176466)

I will fly a Mexican flag off the front of my house right now in the middle of suburbia if I think it'll make me happy.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176504)

Well the wars are still here, where did the protesters go?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176535)

Probably not very "presidential" of him, I agree. But the teabaggers do it to themselves. They are an embarrassment to the country with their misspelled signs and videos like that lunatic a few weeks ago that was raving about killing people.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176721)

Everytime there are protesters, you can say the same thing, but the liberal media treats them differently. People misspell a word on a sign. Maybe our schools would be better if we didn't spend so much on wars and illegal aliens?



If we drilled our own oil we could, the USSR walked out of Afghanistan

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176673)

His campaign on pulling out of the war was the Iraq war. he said he would be sending more troops to Afgan from day one, and people support that. He did miss his pull out deadline for Iraq, but he did pull troops as well and also stated it would be years before they all could be removed.

All in all, Afgan happened faster than expected and Iraq is taking longer.

Re: Protests

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2...ti-war_protest

On March 20, 2010, thousands marched by the White House in Washington, DC, to protest the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The event was organized by A.N.S.W.E.R. and other groups. The scheduling of the event ties it to the seventh anniversary of the start of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003

I remember hearing about it on the TV.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176727)

That's working out real well down in the Gulf.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176741)

They have better valves that shut off automatically, but the Government doesn't make them use them, before that, our record was pretty damn good

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17176737)

Seventh year, thats going well isn't it?

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17176621)

I guess I really don't care that a President shows respect by bowing, kissing a ring, cheek or giving a hand shake - it's all exactly the same thing.

Clinton and Bush both bowed before other people... I don't care to lookup all the rest that have show some type of respect equal how that country accepts it.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17176777)

Yes but this is quite disturbing to me that we are too worried about whether our field workers have a piece of paper in their pocket than we are about the complete destruction of the Gulf of Mexico.