Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17267636)

Make everything legal then you don't have to have cops or prisons. Seems pretty simple to me.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17267892)

I don't think November is a slam dunk either, but I think it's definitely headed that direction, even federally. When both of these scenarios are on the books:

DEA tries to shut it down and stop it, but can't.
DEA is told to no longer enforce.

It's a law that's on it's way out. It's just a matter of time.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17267505)

Was just thinking here about what legalization might actually mean in practice. I have some random thoughts, maybe some GFY wisdom can be added here...

Whatever side of the issue you might be on, we all have to admit that full legalization of Marijuana in California is/would be a significant game changer. The first question that comes to my mind is, won't the surrounding states now have to defend their borders with California? People traveling to and from, subject to search at the borders? At what stage do they admit the War On Drugs is a lost cause?

The next question is, if it's fully legalized for anyone over the age of 21, what then happens to the 'Medical Marijuana' structure that is already in place? Do the dispensaries simply convert to a convenience store?

Will California be isolated from the rest of the US at its borders or does the rest of the country follow suit and legalize?

Thoughts? :rasta

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17268263)

The problem is no matter how "legal" the law in Cali says it is the FEDS can come right in and just stomp on your shit any fucking time it wants. With this Supreme Court there's no way in hell it's ever going to be legal in America as a whole. Too much money in both fighting the (bad) fight against weed/illegal drugs and the pharmaceutical companies will want you to buy THEIR synthetic weed (cabanoids) which is on the way (already being tested in England).

Maybe in 100 years.

Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 17268352)

This wont be the end of the war on drugs. The war on drugs keeps a lot of Washington bureaucrats employed, gives America a reason to meddle in other countries and lets not forget keeping prisons filled with non violent drug offenders is good business and keeps those donations coming to politicians.

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17268274)

Well dont make it legal just stop arresting and activity going after pot users.

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 17268400)

1) The Cal Gov will save millions of $.
2) Police no longer need to tie up recourses.
3) The Tax will fix the deficit.
4) Most people will be better off.
5) Mental health problems will go up drastically and alot of the new tax needs to be put back into Mental health.

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17267603)

Except the ton of people in the US that think it should be illegal and that it's as bad as Coke or Heroin....:upsidedow

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17267861)

A shelter for junkies? Wow. :1orglaugh

Obviously Morphine is a different class of substance altogether and has completely different effects. It's also manufactured by humans. Marijuana is a plant. There are no "happy medical morphia" clinics because it is controlled and regulated, as it should be. What, do you think all pharmaceuticals should be widely available to anyone at any time like shampoo or something? There has to be regulation and control of certain substances that we humans have created in labs. No question.

Marijuana is a plant. I've said it a million times, but it never sinks in. It is a plant.

Regulate and control it like alcohol if you must, but putting people in prison for this shit must end.

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268455)

Acceptance of MJ has skyrocketed and will continue to do so as the older generations die out.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17268360)

Elected Morons Invent Endless War Ons...

War on Poverty - War on Drugs - War on Terrorism, etc.

It's time the people rise up and declare a War on Morons!

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 17268400)

5) Mental health problems will go up drastically and alot of the new tax needs to be put back into Mental health.

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268499)

morphine is natural. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268507)

The war on drugs is a war on the citizens of this country. Sad, but true that we are enemy combatants in this pointless endeavor.

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268510)

False. Please cite a reputable source for this.

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 17268522)

If you dont believe long term use of MJ causes and mental health problems then it's pointless arguing with you.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17268528)

So you're taking an anti-marijuana stand, and your name is "Bake"...

Awesome! :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268499)

morphine is natural. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 17268533)

Not at all in moderation it's not a problem but full time and heavy use leads to brain damage

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17268540)

Here is a list of 50 things that cause brain damage...

http://4mind4life.com/blog/2008/02/2...l-brain-cells/

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17268360)

Elected Morons Invent Endless War Ons...

War on Poverty - War on Drugs - War on Terrorism, etc.

It's time the people rise up and declare a War on Morons!

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17267551)

why not demand to legalize coke or heroin?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17267808)

george washington grew hemp.

He grew fields of that stuff, man, that's what I'm talkin' about. Fields. He grew it all over the country, man. He had people growin' it all over the country, you know. The whole country back then was gettin' high. Lemme tell you, man, 'cause he knew he was onto somethin', man. He knew that it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man, so he grew fields of it, man.

But you know what? Behind every good man there's a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and every day, George would come home, she'd have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he'd come in the door. She was a hip, a hip, hip lady, man.

Originally Posted by uno (Post 17268499)

morphine is natural. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17268661)

Dave Washington, not George

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 17268917)

Yes, opium poppy and coca are plants too. So I also didn't get his point. Who said that a plant can not be a narcotic?

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17267809)

I'm all for it, but it ain't gonna happen.

If it happens I will be amazed, but even then it will be reversed in the end.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17269195)

who's dave washington?

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17270006)

Dave is not here :winkwink:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17267636)

Make everything legal then you don't have to have cops or prisons. Seems pretty simple to me.