Convo I just finished with DWreck:

Dwreck (6:49 PM) :
responded to your thread CarlosBS. Respect.
CarlosTheGaucho (6:49 PM) :
are you serious?
CarlosTheGaucho (6:50 PM) :
Do you really want to contact me?
Dwreck (6:51 PM) :
i want you to get paid I have no ill will towards you or wish harm. i want to contact you to let you know I have addressed it.
CarlosTheGaucho (6:51 PM) :
btw. the fact that I'm not spending money like I used to doesn't mean I'm broke
CarlosTheGaucho (6:51 PM) :
and posting personal stuff is way below the belt
CarlosTheGaucho (6:52 PM) :
I don't understand how can you still feel like a man doing this
Dwreck (6:53 PM) :
i understand your out to get me I understand this.
Dwreck (6:53 PM) :
im paying you im blocking you and wish you all the happiness in the world Carlos.
Dwreck (6:53 PM) :
good bye,
CarlosTheGaucho (6:53 PM) :
do you also understand you're filling me with bullshit excuses for months>
CarlosTheGaucho (6:53 PM) :
?
CarlosTheGaucho (6:53 PM) :
bye

What a douche. Still no paypal I'm guessing?

Yeah I never said anything about the $. I fully agree with you, the man should pay you back. You have every right to ask him the money and as a matter of fact this is pure theft and the guy should be stabbed in the face (although that might happen soon enough).

Like sorry guys this is not like I would hit him up after two years

It's been going on and on for 8 months I got like every month promised the money are on the way

Then I meet him in Florida so I stripped him off his pocket money for $ 350

Then I contact him, nothing happens

Then I contact him, nothing happens

So then I get in touch and try to come up honest and easy, not like threatening him - you can see that above

Even it's already over two years

So he comes up with this "payment plan" and of course nothing happens

So excuse me guys, I had to react I can't let anyone fuck me in the ass for more than two years

The main reason - I hope this is going to save the hassle for some hard working folks dealing with him, nobody in the world has time for bullshit

If he can't pay, he should take this offer. :2 cents:

Why not send the paypal today?

Pay up you snake ass motherfucker :2 cents:

I have too much pride to ever come to a board and cry over $150.

IMO this whole thing is principal.

Once again, this is not about $ 150

Believe it or not

This is about someone fucking with me, pulling my leg for two years, now even posting very delicate personal info in public, abusing the relationship we had together for years, if you believe I'd ask for $ 150 on boards, sorry

But yes, I've already recovered most of the money owed to me over the years, everyone was more sensible than this joker

All you needed is to talk to them and everyone paid, not like promising 20 times that the "payment" is on the way

I never went on boards with shit, never in five years, but too much is too much

And if you're so offended about $ 150 don't blame me when you get fucked in the future

That's because you're a fucking tool. Now do the right thing and get the fuck outta here.

Still wouldn't do it. Sorry Carlos. It's like the part in the movie Bronx Tale. Sonny tells the kid chasing some guy up the street for his money. It only cost you $20 to get rid of him.:1orglaugh

Captain save a hoe.

That's not the point. The guy flat out stole the money out of his hands at an industry show. This kind of behaviour should not be tolerated and Dwreck deserves to get exposed for pulling this kind of bullshit.

I don't believe he'll actually pay, seriously

And I also want to see him next time I'm in Toronto

Here's the right question Martin, tell me one single reason why shouldn't I out him ?

Why shouldn't I out someone who stole $ 500 bucks from my hand thinking I won't remember it like 95 pct. of Vegas guests wouldn't at 5 AM?

Do you let thieves steal your things and feel "proud" that you allow them?

I don't, especially if they have the balls to fuck with me for months and then request a "payment plan" for $ 150 bucks

Well that story sounds fishy to me. Derek weighs 120 with his shoes on. Carlos just let him scoop 5bills like that? hmmmm...

Nigga please. I challenge you to a knife duel right NOW :pimp:1orglaugh

I would bet anything he's still posting here under another nick. He was here every day, don't think he could just drop gfy. I'm sure he's posting under one of these recent fake nicks that remarkably is able to remember all things past on gfy.

I understand your point, however, $20 isn't $150 and the fact of the matter is Sonny didn't have to read that kid's posts on a message board everyday, post after moronic post.....

Dwreck's poor grammar is enough to make anyone reading it, go bananas.

I couldn't imagine him owing me money and having it fester day after day.

Maybe it sounds fishy because you didn't read it

I knew Derek for like two years prior, we had beers together etc. so he comes over, scoops one $ 500 chip out of my hand, I think he's yanking with me and gonna return it he's such an idiot he has that kind of idiotic humor

So I'm easy, gonna take a look around the casino, I can't find him, next day I call his cell phone that I have, and he's already on a plane to Toronto promising me he'll pay my $ 500 back once he arrives

Is that clear now? Or do you think he would graciously give me $ 350 in Florida right away if he didn't owe me?

It's something different if you see someone eye to eye than if he can fuck with you for months over the icq and online.

It's not always the easiest thing to leave a table to go chase after someone for a chip you think they are joking around with and will return. And during single deck it can fuck the other players and well, if you are doing good.... :)

My question as many others - Why did you (Derek) take the chip in the first place? If you were ridiculously drunk, why did you not leave the chip in an envelope at the front desk for Carlos on your way to the airport?

This seems quite out of character for Derek.

dude, fuck that.

you admitted you owe him the money and you should have paid it back 2 years ago.

2 weeks ago you were saying that you need to pay your rent and need to make a PAYMENT PLAN for $150 - promising the first payment for the 16th. Not even this pathetic plan worked out.

last week you come here bragging that you bought a new Mac Book - this is a slap in the face for someone you owe money to.

and now you come here and post personal stuff from an ICQ conversation.

i let everyone else make up their minds about you, i'm done.

Probably had a bad gambling trip and had to pay rent when he returned. Sounds like Carlos was hammered and an easy mark.

Don't you guys have any fucking work to do... INSANE how many of you are just here for the sake of arguing over something that is between 2 individual only... LOLOLOL

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1119725_n.jpg

Oh the irony - Florida August 2008

And yes, seeing someone posting threads about his new "MacBook" while he needs a "payment plan" for $ 150

This is a clear bullshit, I don't care if it's $ 10 bucks or $ 1000 bucks but don't bullshit me like this

Sorry

What... you mean... like you just did?

:-)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46.../BumFights.jpg

For a moment there I forgot which web site I was on...

ADG

Once again,

this is not about money, this is about character

read the thread before you post,

I've recovered every single dollar I was ever owed without going to the boards, that's a fact, you just won't find one single thread from me where I'd ask anyone about money in five years, and I was owed much more than $ 500.


I was extremely patient and diplomatic:

- never once did I threaten him

- even accepted his "payment plan" for $ 150 which is seriously like spitting in your face

- digested his new macbooks and crap

- digested him fucking with me for months, lying to me for months

But there comes a point where I no more care, and I have absolutely no regret I started this thread, hope he can buy himself a sandwich for my $ 150.

Big pimpin

I'm starting to believe that people that belittle a debt because of its amount are just secretely making excuses for themselves. Hope you get paid, Carlos!

Its always been a double standard with jman. If drama involves one of his bros he wants to quickly brush it aside, but if they aren't in the bro club then he has no problems posting about it. He did it for years in here backing up Sleazy no matter if Sleazy was in the wrong and eventually it came back to bite him in the ass.

Exactly.

Jman's love affair/bear breakup with Sleazy was Top News, now he wants to focus on work, lol....

Actually he didn't.

Carlos was drunk off his sorry ass, which is typical for an industry show and handed the chip to Dwreck. Dwreck tried 3 times to give the chip back, and Carlos with a stupid dumbass smile on his face and slurred words told him that no it was cool that he won a ton of money. When Carlos sobered up the next day, he threw a hissyfit and wardialed Dwreck nonstop.

It is pretty fucking obvious with anyone with more than two braincells to rub together that someone would not let some dude he's met a few times at trade shows run off with a $500 chip as a joke. Carlos was drunk off his ass, period.

The point of my post here isn't about whether Dwreck should pay the guy back or not, it is about how Carlos is portraying the whole situation as if he was an unsuspecting victim of a pickpocket.

Also, I've made some good money from 2005 till 2009

And even I blew and awful lot of it, believe me, $ 500 was never a question of life and death for me

In fact, is there anyone even on THIS board that is not able to put together the outstanding $ 150?

This is the true reason I started this thread - it's just surreal.

I don't comment on this because I admit I was really drunk, drinking Maker's Mark the whole night, it was 5 AM in Vegas, and I have a silly sense of humor, so if he really believed I'll give him $ 500 I'm sorry for him

I only comment on the fact that someone is not able to pay back in two and a half years

I just don't have those money on my paypal account, seriously

And the only "payment" I got was eight months later when I caught up with him up close and personal in Florida

The rest was thousands of totally bullshit excuses why someone can't pay

And at the end it even escalated into a "payment plan" for $ 150

Wtf bro. So did he offer to give it back three times?

I am about to fucking explode. WERE THERE ANY WITNESSES WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?

I can't confirm this, although it's possible that he took money from my handpalm and I was yanking with him, that's what I do when I'm drunk, of course I would never expect he won't be able to pay back to me in two and a half years.

I know for sure I didn't GAVE him the chip, that's what I know for sure, dude took it from my hand.

And I know for sure first time he promised to give it back to me was the next day on the phone.

I'm not even saying he was trying to steal from me, I'm only saying he's not able to give the money back to me for a total of 28 months already, and now he's posting my very personal info, calling me broke and insulting me.

Quagmire choose your buddies wiser.

It took me 8 months and meeting him personally to get $ 350

And at the end we're here 28 months later with a "payment plan" for $ 150

Five Hundred Dollars is Fifty Thousand Pennies

Fair enough. As I said, I am not arguing that he shouldn't pay you back. The whole situation was bad to begin with, considering he wasn't exactly sober either. I'm staying out of that part of it. I don't think you honestly believe that Dwreck would steal out of your hands. I just wanted to make it very clear to people in the GFY peanut gallery that it wasn't a snatch and run situation.

I have worked directly with Dwreck at WebcamCash as well as being an affiliate webmaster supported by him. In all those years the only person who has ever had anything bad to say about him was Leo of myfreecams, and that was because his affiliate payment was late.

This sounds much more likely a scenario. So did you give it to Dwreck, then he tries to give it back, then in your drunken state said, nah its cool I won a bunch keep it? Then change your mind post drunk state the next morning and realized you gave away 500.00? Also did he ever cash in the chip? Does Dwreck even gamble? Don't recall ever seeing him at any of the tables in vegas.

I'm not accusing him of stealing, I'm accusing him from holding my money for 28 months and fucking with me almost on a daily basis, and at the end needing a "payment plan" for $ 150

Sorry, if I owe someone money I told him when I pay, and then I pay back

Not that I"m fucking with him for months and months and months, he seriously has to think I'm dumb as a rock if he offers me a "payment plan" for $ 150