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Tom_PM 07-26-2010 09:43 AM

I paused it at 21 seconds in just to say that so far, the guy is just a cockhead. Continuing on.

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363851)
You mean just like the right did for 8 years for GW?

As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17363866)
I paused it at 21 seconds in just to say that so far, the guy is just a cockhead. Continuing on.

A grating cockhead to boot. :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363862)
I thought that was your point and I'll just say this. If someone compiled a list of things Obama gets condemned for but Bush got a pass on and compared it to a list of things that Bush got condemned on where Obama didn't one of those lists is going to be a lot fucking bigger. Guess which one that is.

Compile away... I would be fascinated to read it!


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TurboAngel 07-26-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363632)
At least Obama doesn't sound like a southern retarded boy every time he opens his mouth.

One good point.

IllTestYourGirls 07-26-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17363849)
I don't know much, but I do know that I have not seen 6+ dollar gas this summer. Things "seem" to actually be picking up around here. There is also a calm that I have not seen in a long time. If you head down to the local hardware store,(the local hangout for the older locals) No one is up in arms, bitching about all the stuff they where bitching about under bush etc... all of a sudden the topics are more about local life again, fishing, how the families doing etc.

Using that as kind of a "happy meter" I would say that there has been improvement.

Wow. Thats great. Because I have not seen any of that. Everywhere I go all I hear about is how bad things are. It really is pretty depressing. I hear business owners scared to death about new regulations and are not hiring because of it. I hear about large business no longer even bidding on construction projects and are "going to coast this one out" because they do not dare to bid because they dont know what laws will be passed next and will cause them to go bankrupt.

That company that is coasting it out is not a small business. They have over 200 people working for them, not including subcontractors.

_Richard_ 07-26-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17363717)
So true :thumbsup

Watch as Obama goes two terms, manages to stop the tailspin and finally gets the country going in the right direction and the president that follows him will get all the credit and be treated as the savior.

i don't think that's going to happen. In the end, it wasn't so much the US that wasn't ready for a black president, which it's not, instead it's the world.

IllTestYourGirls 07-26-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363869)
As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

Acorn and Van Jones come to mind.

Tom_PM 07-26-2010 09:49 AM

ok, I've seen 2 minutes of this idiots propogranda. Thats more than enough.

have fun here with your little hate game.

Sly 07-26-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363869)
As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

The real story behind the Black Panthers has nothing to do with the Black Panthers. Some of the details and instructions that are coming out because of that case really leave one scratching their head. True or not, I guess we'll find out. But to not even talk about it or wonder what the deal is? Pretty strange.

Lawyers were told not to prosecute cases involving minorities. What's up with that?

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363869)
As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

Fox News never ignores a story (ha), they just show edited videos and lie through their teeth about anything they don't agree with.

As far as the Black Panther story, you mean the one Fox News latched onto to stir up more racial tension? I would talk about it but this woman did a good enough job debating Megyn Kelly on the issue. 2 minutes and 25 seconds in.


PimpStar 07-26-2010 09:54 AM

I'm far from an expert on this but to me the video maker and poster must be clearly political opponents, it's like after 8 years of bush abuse they expect him to go up like that
which is completely unrealistic, same with sports teams, if a club have had bad management for years, buying wrong players, paying to much, etc.etc. than it would take years
to rebuild the team and club under new management, with a country known as the biggest economy of the world one could expect a bit more time
hope things will go in the good direction for the USA

BFT3K 07-26-2010 09:59 AM

These girls may or may not vote for Obama in 2012. Think about that!

http://www.fetishsoup.com/ClipImages...ssy02Large.jpg

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17363914)
These girls may or may not vote for Obama in 2012. Think about that!

http://www.fetishsoup.com/ClipImages...ssy02Large.jpg


Thread over! Game, set and match to BFT3K.



:1orglaugh


:thumbsup

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Sausage 07-26-2010 10:03 AM

How dare you say anything bad about Black Jesus!

He talks pretty and is black so he is above criticism. If you don't love Black Jesus you are either a terrorist or a racist.

Pics Traffic 07-26-2010 10:05 AM

I don't know its any better but at least its not any worst. With Bush we were always on look out for another fuck up.

Amputate Your Head 07-26-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17363927)
How dare you say anything bad about Black Jesus!

He talks pretty and is black so he is above criticism. If you don't love Black Jesus you are either a terrorist or a racist.

According to GW, everyone is a terrorist. We are all in the Axis of Evil.

DaddyHalbucks 07-26-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363628)
So, Okay, you hated Bush..... But all the same things that he did are ok when Obama does them, right?

VERY funny quick (4 min) video.


Great piece, thanks for posting it.

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363895)
Fox News never ignores a story (ha), they just show edited videos and lie through their teeth about anything they don't agree with.

As far as the Black Panther story, you mean the one Fox News latched onto to stir up more racial tension? I would talk about it but this woman did a good enough job debating Megyn Kelly on the issue. 2 minutes and 25 seconds in.


A good job? She admitted not reading any of the evidence and testimony, both in the case itself, and of the whistle blower that testified after quitting the department of justice, and then she went on to say that there was no problem with their handling of the case.... with her having no real knowledge of it.

I'm not sure what you were going for here.


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Vendzilla 07-26-2010 10:17 AM

OK, just a few things

People hated Bush because of the wars
Obama said he was going to send more troops to Afghanistan, but you still voted for him,
it's also been said that the pull out date is not realistic at this point

People hated Bush because of the Patriot Act
Obama Extended it

People hated Bush because he spent so much money in 8 years
Obama spent more in 18 months, new budget is 40 cents of every dollar is borrowed, 1.47 trillion dollars

People hated Bush because of the growing unemployment rate
Under Obama, it got worse and the only sector hiring is government, by over 25% in growth, who pays for that? Taxpayers? Not if they aren't working


And in Arizona, the voters voted for a bill to do something that's the responsibility of the US government, security, but Obama sides with Mexico on that



But we did get Obama care, this is suppose to keep prices from going up, everyone I talk to is paying more since it passed. My buddy that works for Coca Cola is now paying $80 a month more, he doesn't make very much working for them

We got bank reform, they're going to hire 800 new people to police it and the two biggest fails, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are exempt, but hey, 2300 pages of regulation?

Obamanomics, or Keynesian economics has failed in the UK and they voted Brown out for a rational economic plan to cut government spending by 25%

And the best most liberals can say is it's Bush's fault, are they that fucking blind?

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363952)
A good job? She admitted not reading any of the evidence and testimony, both in the case itself, and of the whistle blower that testified after quitting the department of justice, and then she went on to say that there was no problem with their handling of the case.... with her having no real knowledge of it.

I'm not sure what you were going for here.


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She stated that it's irrelevant, because it is. They have an injunction against the guy already.

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363895)
Fox News never ignores a story (ha), they just show edited videos and lie through their teeth about anything they don't agree with.


I assume you are talking about the Shirley Sherrod story. You do realize that she was forced out by the administration BEFORE that video was shown on Fox or her name had even been MENTIONED by Fox, right? It had only been shown on that Breitbart BigGovernment.com site and then the administration fired her.



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sperbonzo 07-26-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17363982)
She stated that it's irrelevant, because it is. They have an injunction against the guy already.


They heavily reduced the injunction criteria, and they dropped injunctions against two others. Perhaps you might listen again?


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Vendzilla 07-26-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363983)
I assume you are talking about the Shirley Sherrod story. You do realize that she was forced out by the administration BEFORE that video was shown on Fox or her name had even been MENTIONED by Fox, right? It had only been shown on that Breitbart BigGovernment.com site and then the administration fired her.



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She also won a law suit aginst the government for something racial and got $300k for herself.
She was blasted by the NAACP , which they later changed their moind on, it was their tape, LMAO

Vendzilla 07-26-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17363944)
According to GW, everyone is a terrorist. We are all in the Axis of Evil.

Sadly, Obama feels the same way by extending the patriot act

Amputate Your Head 07-26-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
OK, just a few things

People hated Bush because of the wars
Obama said he was going to send more troops to Afghanistan, but you still voted for him,
it's also been said that the pull out date is not realistic at this point

The war never should have been started in the first place. Bush started his illegal war, Obama is dealing with the mess.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
People hated Bush because of the Patriot Act
Obama Extended it

Patriot Act needs to go away.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
People hated Bush because he spent so much money in 8 years
Obama spent more in 18 months, new budget is 40 cents of every dollar is borrowed, 1.47 trillion dollars

Economic collapse was well underway under GW. Bush took us from surplus to the chains of debt. Giving the rich those tax cuts did nothing to help anyone except the rich. It will take several presidents to dig our way out of the giant Guatemala sized hole that GW put us in.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
People hated Bush because of the growing unemployment rate
Under Obama, it got worse and the only sector hiring is government, by over 25% in growth, who pays for that? Taxpayers? Not if they aren't working

Again, economic collapse was initiated under GW. Millions of jobs vanishing are part & parcel with the economic meltdown. GW owns it entirely.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
And in Arizona, the voters voted for a bill to do something that's the responsibility of the US government, security, but Obama sides with Mexico on that

Unconstitutional panic legislation is not a solution. Obama is a lawyer's lawyer. I have confidence in that and will side with the government on this one.



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
But we did get Obama care, this is suppose to keep prices from going up, everyone I talk to is paying more since it passed. My buddy that works for Coca Cola is now paying $80 a month more, he doesn't make very much working for them

Interesting. It has had zero effect for me whatsoever so far. I didn't have health insurance before, and I still don't. Your buddy should count his blessings.... not only does he have health insurance, he has a fucking job. Tell him to stop whining.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
We got bank reform, they're going to hire 800 new people to police it and the two biggest fails, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are exempt, but hey, 2300 pages of regulation?

Versus letting the banks continue to run wild and rape the public? I'll take any regulations they want to slap down on the fucking bankers.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
Obamanomics, or Keynesian economics has failed in the UK and they voted Brown out for a rational economic plan to cut government spending by 25%

Fuck the UK. I don't care what they do over there.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
And the best most liberals can say is it's Bush's fault, are they that fucking blind?

Because it is Bush's fault. All of it.

Vendzilla 07-26-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17364004)
The war never should have been started in the first place. Bush started his illegal war, Obama is dealing with the mess.

And he's promised more than he can deliver, we need to just pull out, we can't afford it, the point being, people hated Bush because of the war, but those same Idiots voted for Barry when he told them he was going to send more troops
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Patriot Act needs to go away.
I couldn't agree more
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Economic collapse was well underway under GW. Bush took us from surplus to the chains of debt. Giving the rich those tax cuts did nothing to help anyone except the rich. It will take several presidents to dig our way out of the giant Guatemala sized hole that GW put us in.
Not arguing about Bush, But what Barry is doing is far worse
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Again, economic collapse was initiated under GW. Millions of jobs vanishing are part & parcel with the economic meltdown. GW owns it entirely.
18 months and it got worse, again, the only sector hiring is the Government, growth of 25% when state government is cutting back, remember those police we can't afford anymore?


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Unconstitutional panic legislation is not a solution. Obama is a lawyer's lawyer. I have confidence in that and will side with the government on this one. I'm sure they will prove that the law is constitutional, but whats unconstitutional are sanctuary cities
If that's what it take to get a president off his ass to protect the American people from violence from drug cartels, then so be it, the first signs of a revolution

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Interesting. It has had zero effect for me whatsoever so far. I didn't have health insurance before, and I still don't. Your buddy should count his blessings.... not only does he have health insurance, he has a fucking job. Tell him to stop whining.
The point being, it was promised by Barry that wasn't going to happen, he also lost some of his benefits

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Versus letting the banks continue to run wild and rape the public? I'll take any regulations they want to slap down on the fucking bankers.
You taking any regulations is what Barry was counting on, too bad we can't get good legislation, what are we paying these fools in congress for?

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Fuck the UK. I don't care what they do over there.
Their economy was being ran just like ours, it didn't work, even the queen is taking a hit

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Because it is Bush's fault. All of it.
When does Barry own this mess?

Vendzilla 07-26-2010 10:48 AM

People voted for Obama because he was going to fix things, I just dont' see that happening

Amputate Your Head 07-26-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17364058)
And he's promised more than he can deliver, we need to just pull out, we can't afford it, the point being, people hated Bush because of the war, but those same Idiots voted for Barry when he told them he was going to send more troops

My belief is that happened because McCain / Palin (shudder) would have continued the war indefinitely. At least with a Dem we have a shot at it ending someday.



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17364058)
When does Barry own this mess?

Well, Bush owns what he owns. Some of it will never transfer to another president. But I would say if by year #3 things aren't turning around for the better, and I mean in a way that everyone can clearly see it, not some crazy analyst pointing to obscure indicators no one relates to, then Obama gets to own the failure of his own term and look forward to being a civilian again.

Tom_PM 07-26-2010 10:53 AM

Yeah I miss Bush. I miss a president choking on pretzels instead of speaking to the american people. I miss a guy who can ignore a disaster and then pretend he flew over it with one picture of his ugly ass looking out a window on the tarmac somewhere. I miss a guy who photoshops in more soldiers because even though he only speaks to controlled military crowds twice a year, there still aren't enough, so lets photoshop some more.

Fuck. Yeah that was awesome. Lets do THAT shit again.

Slappin Fish 07-26-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17363975)
Obamanomics, or Keynesian economics has failed in the UK and they voted Brown out for a rational economic plan to cut government spending by 25%

Gordon Brown was voted out because he was perceived as a bland bully/ogre with poor communication skills. Plus having been in power so long, anything other than labour felt like change (reminds you of anything?). Keynesian economics had very little to do with it, I can assure you. It is the second or third time I see you post this here. Don't know if you read it somewhere and thought it was a clever argument but you should drop it, really.

Gerco 07-26-2010 11:12 AM

Obama is like a fire fighter getting on the scene 8 years after the fire started and then being asked to put it out. What do people really expect? Then man is one of the few who has actually been doing what he said he was going to, and considering the repub's every effort to block and do nothing more than sit on there asses the last few years I think he's done pretty well.

Takes a long time to rebuild people that think that there is some magic plan by anyone thats going to make this all just go away in 2 years is a fool to begin with.

You can not compare it with what happened in the past, for the simple reasons that the world was not as interconnected as it is today. The stakes are higher and there are more reasons things can fail.

As far as using 6 dollar gas a one of my markers... why not? It's something that effects me personally daily. Of course I use other things too but the gas one is something everything gets and gets now.

Vendzilla 07-26-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17364087)
My belief is that happened because McCain / Palin (shudder) would have continued the war indefinitely. At least with a Dem we have a shot at it ending someday.

It's turned into an occupation, remember Germany? Took a republican to tear down that wall


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Well, Bush owns what he owns. Some of it will never transfer to another president. But I would say if by year #3 things aren't turning around for the better, and I mean in a way that everyone can clearly see it, not some crazy analyst pointing to obscure indicators no one relates to, then Obama gets to own the failure of his own term and look forward to being a civilian again.
For decades, it's been the liberals that have done the protesting, now thanx to Barry, the conservatives are grouping together now the Tea Party has their own caucus, I think that's a pretty big indicator

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17364114)
Gordon Brown was voted out because he was perceived as a bland bully/ogre with poor communication skills. Plus having been in power so long, anything other than labour felt like change (reminds you of anything?). Keynesian economics had very little to do with it, I can assure you. It is the second or third time I see you post this here. Don't know if you read it somewhere and thought it was a clever argument but you should drop it, really.

True I don't know all the reasons, but have the tides changed as far as how the economics are working in the UK? Isn't it true that they are cutting the spending of the government?

Vendzilla 07-26-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17364142)
Obama is like a fire fighter getting on the scene 8 years after the fire started and then being asked to put it out. What do people really expect? Then man is one of the few who has actually been doing what he said he was going to, and considering the repub's every effort to block and do nothing more than sit on there asses the last few years I think he's done pretty well.

Takes a long time to rebuild people that think that there is some magic plan by anyone thats going to make this all just go away in 2 years is a fool to begin with.

You can not compare it with what happened in the past, for the simple reasons that the world was not as interconnected as it is today. The stakes are higher and there are more reasons things can fail.

As far as using 6 dollar gas a one of my markers... why not? It's something that effects me personally daily. Of course I use other things too but the gas one is something everything gets and gets now.

true, the GOP did sit on their asses, then in 06, people wanted change, we got the democrats in charge, what has happen since 06? It's not just Barry, it's the democratic machine, it's too liberal. Their use to be conservative democrats.
I would just like to see Barry do one thing that is going to help the country, but no, he had to push the ban on drilling, when his own experts said it was safe and thats going to cost even more jobs. He wants more regulations, thats going to cost more jobs, he's moving in the wrong direction

Slappin Fish 07-26-2010 11:22 AM

BTW this is something you might want to look at to understand why the US is still spending while the UK has to cut down. Sometimes it is difficult to see where the US actually stands compared to others. The results might surprise you.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/30308959

Gerco 07-26-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17364160)
true, the GOP did sit on their asses, then in 06, people wanted change, we got the democrats in charge, what has happen since 06? It's not just Barry, it's the democratic machine, it's too liberal. Their use to be conservative democrats.
I would just like to see Barry do one thing that is going to help the country, but no, he had to push the ban on drilling, when his own experts said it was safe and thats going to cost even more jobs. He wants more regulations, thats going to cost more jobs, he's moving in the wrong direction

Sorry, totally disagree here... the ONE thing I see him pushing a little is alternative energy and the need to get off oil. Anything that can be done to further that I'm all for.

There is no reason or excuse why solar power has not been mass produced to the point where it's affordable for everyone. Under the republicans alternative energies took a huge hit, starting back with Regan and the taxing that was added to it. My physics professor in collage had a successful windmill design, built 6 of them and they would produce so much electric that they spent most of the day back feeding it into the local power grid. He was put out of business buy those republicans. Those 6 windmills... 4 are still working today, 30 years later. The other 2 where never allowed to be put up.

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17363983)
I assume you are talking about the Shirley Sherrod story. You do realize that she was forced out by the administration BEFORE that video was shown on Fox or her name had even been MENTIONED by Fox, right? It had only been shown on that Breitbart BigGovernment.com site and then the administration fired her.



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Dude, get real. They reported on it, they just didn't use her name. Lot of good it did since the video was easy to find online. This is typical Fox News and their viewers, it's disingenuous and stupid.

sperbonzo 07-26-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17364189)
Dude, get real. They reported on it, they just didn't use her name. Lot of good it did since the video was easy to find online. This is typical Fox News and their viewers, it's disingenuous and stupid.


I guess the point went right over your head....


Never mind then


:disgust





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Amputate Your Head 07-26-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17364151)
It's turned into an occupation, remember Germany? Took a republican to tear down that wall

All too well. I lived in Adolf Hitler Kaserne for two years. Was there when the Wall came down and they all came across. Was a scene. You're right. It is an occupation, and will likely stay that way for a very long time. (Iraq) The Afghanistan campaign may or may not get shut down some time soon... looks like it's getting a ton of attention right now, but we'll be in Iraq for the foreseeable future.



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17364151)
For decades, it's been the liberals that have done the protesting, now thanx to Barry, the conservatives are grouping together now the Tea Party has their own caucus, I think that's a pretty big indicator

Problem is, the conservatives have no answers. All they do is try to block everything the dems do, but offer up no answers of their own, other than clearly backing big oil, big money, etc... delaying extended unemployment at a time when they need it most, backing BP, and on and on.... and not even the GOP takes the tea people seriously. At least not enough to get too close. (other than the usual lunatics like Bachman).

Sly 07-26-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17364188)
Sorry, totally disagree here... the ONE thing I see him pushing a little is alternative energy and the need to get off oil. Anything that can be done to further that I'm all for.

There is no reason or excuse why solar power has not been mass produced to the point where it's affordable for everyone. Under the republicans alternative energies took a huge hit, starting back with Regan and the taxing that was added to it. My physics professor in collage had a successful windmill design, built 6 of them and they would produce so much electric that they spent most of the day back feeding it into the local power grid. He was put out of business buy those republicans. Those 6 windmills... 4 are still working today, 30 years later. The other 2 where never allowed to be put up.

What do you mean they were never allowed to be put up? I'm not following your story. People have been putting up windmills and plugging them into the grid for years. What is so different about your professors design that the Republicans came in and said "no you aren't doing this"?

Now if you want to say there wasn't enough funding to grow this, I can understand your point there. But you are saying he wasn't even allowed to put them up?


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