where does it say that? I believe the state has full control over that, but I could be wrong, Utah lost the right to marriage as they saw fit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Marriage_Amendment

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se...l_A mendments

Agent, I love your inability to properly post pictures.

lol ... still looking for 2% :

No time to read all of those great links. Since YOU brought up that 2% shit , maybe YOU should quote your article and supply a link ... genius ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

.. and better non biased source..

BTW, how was the mopping ... :Oh crap

Intersting read, thanks for the link

Translation: I don't like your sources so I'm going to discount them, and then I'll accuse you of trying to discount mine!

THe mopping? I wouldn't know. I am however trying to figure out how much of my taxes will go to underprivileged individuals such as yourself. :)

To have the right to even go into divorce court is what is important.

Many divorce courts are stamped "straights only," which is no different than a bathroom being stamped "whites only."

One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who compares slavery and/or oppression of Blacks with same sex civil unions not recognized as marriages.:1orglaugh


Edit: Just to dumb it down for you, you're comparing an era where a people weren't recognized as such, to a couple recognized as people AND a civil union, but not a married couple.

jesus Demon, get some new fucking material already. It was effective & a little funny at first, but now, every reply you make has the same basic theme: "One of the dumbest comparisons ever made. But what do you expect from a moronic liberal who ____ (fill in the blank)." :ugone2far

it's tired already dude.

So much for the majority vote then :)

What if the majority voted that gays are not legally considered "people"? That be okay too?

congrats! I wonder if this is going to be bad for business for this movie...



I think it just came out (see that!) earlier in the summer.

Holly, you go girl !!

Not as tiresome as "racist, bigot, religious fanatic, murderer", the key words liberals use to evoke emotion because they(you) are incapable of logical thought.

Ah yes, when the liberal is confronted with a logical thought, he MUST go to an extreme to prove his point.

Ok, fuck it. I'm going to just adopt your method.

That's the type of response I would expect from a moronic conservative who can't come up with a single original thought but instead regurgitates the same tired rhetoric over & over.

Oh, I apologize if I dented your delicate sensibilities.... should I choose a less extreme?

Here we go.... how about if the majority voted that straight people can marry, but can't ever get divorced. No matter what.

But they didn't, what they voted on was the discription of what a marriage was, it wasn't taking away any rights, it was preventing new ones

Prop 8 didn't take away their rights? Because I was sure gay marriage WAS legal here before Prop 8.

I guess the Libertarians will be happy with this ruling.

You've adopted this stance a long time ago, which is why you constantly embarrass yourself. If it's fox news, you don't look at the source. If it's conservative, you ignore it or bash it. The hypocrisy is amusing. I definitely enjoy arguing with intellectual inferiors though. Stick to making galleries. :1orglaugh

Okay then! :bowdown

Prop 8 was the second time it was voted on, both times voters said no to same sex marriage

Demon, you are my new personal Jesus. I'm going to conjure an image of you every time I pull my pud.

Interesting, because there were all kinds of gay folks getting married here a while back. Guess they did it all illegally.

That's ok, when I'm feeling down I can always look at your posts and realize someone is a lot worse off than myself in every aspect of life. :winkwink:

That's true. Sometimes I feel like a newborn tadpole when confronted with your superior intellect, razor sharp wit and iron fisted determination. Would it be okay if I got a tattoo honoring your worship, Princess?

When federal judges and our government ignore the MAJORITY of the people, eventually something is going to break. You guys really dont think you can get away with this shit without repercussions do you? Are you willing to DIE for your fag marriage? Consequences will never be the same.

Only the ignorant and naive actually believe the Supreme Court will uphold this decision.

Bookmarked for future humiliation.

"Various types of same-sex marriages have existed, ranging from informal, unsanctioned relationships to highly ritualized unions.

In the southern Chinese province of Fujian, through the Ming dynasty period, females would bind themselves in contracts to younger females in elaborate ceremonies.[citation needed] Males also entered similar arrangements. This type of arrangement was also similar in ancient European history.

An example of egalitarian male domestic partnership from the early Zhou Dynasty period of China is recorded in the story of Pan Zhang & Wang Zhongxian. While the relationship was clearly approved by the wider community, and was compared to heterosexual marriage, it did not involve a religious ceremony binding the couple.

The first historical mention of the performance of same-sex marriages occurred during the early Roman Empire. For instance, Emperor Nero is said to have married one of his male slaves. Emperor Elagabalus married a Carian slave named Hierocles. While there is a consensus among modern historians that same-sex relationships existed in ancient Rome, the exact frequency and nature of same-sex unions during that period has been obscured. In 342 AD Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) prohibiting same-sex marriage in Rome and ordering execution for those so married.

" --- from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

You found a few exceptions to the rule, congratulations. That doesn't change the fact that the concept and spirit marriage has always and will always be between man and woman.

Then again, you HAVE just described civil unions.

Exceptions to the rule? There has never been a "rule". There has never been a definition of marriage that says "between a man and a woman". Only "religists" are trying to make their own rules.

It's a word and that word doesn't belong to religious dogma.

Dude thats like saying child marriages are ok since it was allowed in other ancient cultures and essentially doesnt belong to a particular "religion". Look it is a slippery slope when you afford EXTRA BENEFITS and protections to people based on sexual preference, I mean you could make a case for Polygamy based on your arguments. You guys gotta realize you cant just have "no moral laws".

As I said above: "marriage" has had many incarnations throughout history, culture and civilization.

It continues to be "rewritten" as man evolves.

And it will continue to evolve as to and with in the acceptable norms of society as we know it today. If you want to call that "moral law" fine.

You can continue to believe that it is a simple issue if you like, but the fact is that many gay activists were opposed to this lawsuit because they feared it would lose in the Supreme Court and therefore set back the cause of gay marriage for a long time. There are plenty of pro gay marriage people who are doubtful about the outcome in the Supreme Court.

Source "The status of same-sex marriage in California is unique among the fifty U.S. states, in that the state formerly granted marriage licenses to same-sex couples, but then no longer did. The period of granting such licenses began on June 16, 2008, due to a ruling by the Supreme Court of California based on an equal protection argument and ended November 5, 2008, due to the passage of Proposition 8, an amendment to the California Constitution that limited marriages to those between one man and one woman. Marriages granted by any civil entity, foreign or otherwise, anytime before the passage of Proposition 8 remain legally recognized and retain full state-level marriage rights. Also, subsequent state legislation established that any same-sex marriages granted by other jurisdictions after the passage of Proposition 8 retain the state rights that come with marriage, except for the legal term "marriage" itself."


No mater what, gay marriage will be allowed at some point across the entire Country. If this doesn't do it, something else will, just give it time.

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Fuck it! Just Fuck it!