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Relentless 08-05-2010 04:35 PM

The timing is key.
I predict the issue won't get resolved either way until the height of an election cycle so the fear-mongers can use it to agitate their base. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 08-05-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17392234)
Good god, you're not only a moron, but a moron that doesn't understand how amendments work with federal statutes. Too easy.

i wish we could vote on amending your rights to freedom of speech.

and your sig is definitely evidence of mind boggling stupidity. just not how you think

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17393355)
i wish we could vote on amending your rights to freedom of speech.

and your sig is definitely evidence of mind boggling stupidity. just not how you think

Translation: I don't agree with what he says but I can't back up my bullshit, nor refute his, so I'm going to type something about him being stupid and his inability to think and then i'll feel better.


Good job Richard, i'll take you seriously when you show even an iota of intelligence :)

Amputate Your Head 08-05-2010 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393377)
Translation: I don't agree with what he says but I can't back up my bullshit, nor refute his, so I'm going to type something about him being stupid and his inability to think and then i'll feel better.

That's your modus operandi.

Sabby 08-05-2010 04:47 PM

Intellegent people fascinate me.

Bullies do not.


Sabby:)

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17393380)
That's your modus operandi.

That's precious. So when I got done killing your argument, you decided to search out some fancy words and then play "I know you are but what am I". This is just way too easy:)

Amputate Your Head 08-05-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393388)
That's precious. So when I got done killing your argument, you decided to search out some fancy words and then play "I know you are but what am I". This is just way too easy:)

Yes, that's what I did demon. I was just waiting to spring that fancy word on you.

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17393389)
Yes, that's what I did demon. I was just waiting to spring that fancy word on you.

Since your "I know you are but what am I" game makes no logical sense, that would be my guess, yes. Let me explain because I feel everything needs to be dumbed down for you. When I call someone stupid, I backed it up. I did it with you. What Richard did was make a hilarious insult without backing up any of his bullshit, which is the prevalent attitude by the 90% of morons on this forum. So you see, "I know you are but what am I" just isn't logical in this case. Carry on:winkwink:

Amputate Your Head 08-05-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393392)
Since your "I know you are but what am I" game makes no logical sense, that would be my guess, yes. Let me explain because I feel everything needs to be dumbed down for you. When I call someone stupid, I backed it up. I did it with you. What Richard did was make a hilarious insult without backing up any of his bullshit, which is the prevalent attitude by the 90% of morons on this forum. So you see, "I know you are but what am I" just isn't logical in this case. Carry on:winkwink:

Oh, well... thanks for the explanation douchebag.

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17393395)
Oh, well... thanks for the explanation douchebag.

No problem sweetheart. Come back when you learn how to use common sense:)

Amputate Your Head 08-05-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393398)
No problem sweetheart. Come back when you learn how to use common sense:)

I absolutely will. I'm considering that an invite. Can I get a high five now? Should we toast to it over a Pabst?

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:56 PM

Nein....

cambaby 08-05-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17393248)
The "NATURAL" argument is one that "religists" use as well. As in six of one and half a dozen of the other. I suppose you're all for declaring the USA as a "Christian Nation" as apposed to a secular one.

What the fuck does NATURAL have to do with religion?
I suppose Darwin was religious?
What are you going to give labor from your asshole faggot?

The Demon 08-05-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17393407)
What the fuck does NATURAL have to do with religion?
I suppose Darwin was religious?
What are you going to give labor from your asshole faggot?

It's the typical liberal argument. You're not happy with something, blame conservatives and religion.

Amputate Your Head 08-05-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393404)
Nein....

Ah, you sprecken sie Deutsch. Wie gut Sie sprechen?

The Demon 08-05-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17393414)
Ah, you sprecken sie Deutsch. Wie gut Sie sprechen?

Wer ist sie? Und ich spreche hier ein wenig deutsch

Sabby 08-05-2010 05:06 PM

Ik houd van jou


Sabby:)

Sabby 08-05-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393388)
That's precious. So when I got done killing your argument, you decided to search out some fancy words and then play "I know you are but what am I". This is just way too easy:)

Gemini is usually the one with the fancy words.. but usually hes so sweet you dont care... you can see right through the guy... but you dont care.. until u reach a point. If he pisses u off and you call him on it.. he'll appologize...

not to say he wont do it again though...


Sabby:)

UFGators2007 08-05-2010 05:21 PM

I'm all for lesbian rights, except the butch ones.

gumdrop 08-05-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17393407)
What the fuck does NATURAL have to do with religion?
I suppose Darwin was religious?
What are you going to give labor from your asshole faggot?

I never argue with a badger dressed as a Straw Man....but I digress

ShellyCrash 08-05-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17391885)
I'm absolutely down for this. Get rid of that word altogether. It's attached to religion anyway. There needs to be a neutral legal process.

Cool to see someone else who thinks the same way I do.

_Richard_ 08-05-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393377)
Translation: I don't agree with what he says but I can't back up my bullshit, nor refute his, so I'm going to type something about him being stupid and his inability to think and then i'll feel better.


Good job Richard, i'll take you seriously when you show even an iota of intelligence :)

well

the deeper meaning was we both have respect for freedom of speech, no matter who is talking, and it's disgusting for me to even type it out. So if that was the case, it's disgusting to think that i'd be able to vote for your right of freedom of speech

also that you seemed more of a camaro kinda dude

Sabby 08-05-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17393493)
well

the deeper meaning was we both have respect for freedom of speech, no matter who is talking, and it's disgusting for me to even type it out. So if that was the case, it's disgusting to think that i'd be able to vote for your right of freedom of speech

also that you seemed more of a camaro kinda dude

My bf in hs had an iroc... totally hot.


Sabby:)

The Demon 08-05-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17393493)
well

the deeper meaning was we both have respect for freedom of speech, no matter who is talking, and it's disgusting for me to even type it out. So if that was the case, it's disgusting to think that i'd be able to vote for your right of freedom of speech

also that you seemed more of a camaro kinda dude

Oh ok, so you CAN'T back up anything you've just typed. Good show:)

_Richard_ 08-05-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393525)
Oh ok, so you CAN'T back up anything you've just typed. Good show:)

well, lets look at the cliff notes

you're mad that a judge decided that a law was unconstitutional, stayed his decision and waited for appeal.

it's going to the supreme court, and you better hope they decree it unconstitutional because the freedom of love is right up there with freedom of speech and freedom of mobility.

with examples of women being able to vote and black kids being able to go to school, what this judge did was his job.

Sabby 08-05-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393525)
Oh ok, so you CAN'T back up anything you've just typed. Good show:)

Im going to bed. Pls dont throw any chairs...


Sabby:)

_Richard_ 08-05-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17393521)
My bf in hs had an iroc... totally hot.


Sabby:)

my brother is building one right now lol

The Demon 08-05-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17393536)
well, lets look at the cliff notes

you're mad that a judge decided that a law was unconstitutional, stayed his decision and waited for appeal.

Grasping at straws much? Please show me where I was "mad" about the judge's decision? If anything, I half expected it.

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it's going to the supreme court, and you better hope they decree it unconstitutional because the freedom of love is right up there with freedom of speech and freedom of mobility.
Really? That seems less of a fact and more of an opinion.

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with examples of women being able to vote and black kids being able to go to school, what this judge did was his job.
Yup, and the Supreme Court and all those who came before and banned same sex marriage, will do theirs. Thanks for playing.

xxweekxx 08-05-2010 06:12 PM

why r u guys arguing with demon.. (dont know what someone this conservative/narrow minded is doing on a PORN message board)

i think he is just replying people to piss them off, just ignore him and maybe he'll go away, or hopefully when his boss catches him posting on gfy and fires him, then he'll go away..

if gays wanna marry, they should, not like marriage is fun anyway.. they should enjoy the misery, like all other straight people.. lol

The Demon 08-05-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17393584)
why r u guys arguing with demon.. (dont know what someone this conservative/narrow minded is doing on a PORN message board)

i think he is just replying people to piss them off, just ignore him and maybe he'll go away, or hopefully when his boss catches him posting on gfy and fires him, then he'll go away..

if gays wanna marry, they should, not like marriage is fun anyway.. they should enjoy the misery, like all other straight people.. lol

Hmm conservative and narrow minded, or liberal and stupid/naive. I think I'll choose the former. :1orglaugh

gumdrop 08-05-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393592)
Hmm conservative and narrow minded, or liberal and stupid/naive. I think I'll choose the former. :1orglaugh

But spot on isn't he?

TheDoc 08-05-2010 08:14 PM


You posted the same polls I did.... good job!

And as stated they do prove the idea of marriage being between a man and a women only is evolving and one day gay marriage will be allowed if you like it or not.

uno 08-05-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17393407)
What the fuck does NATURAL have to do with religion?
I suppose Darwin was religious?
What are you going to give labor from your asshole faggot?

Homosexuality does occur in nature.

Yes Darwin was religious.

No comment.

xxweekxx 08-05-2010 08:19 PM

yup there are apparently some animals that take it up the bum too.. from other male animals..

The Demon 08-05-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17393800)
You posted the same polls I did.... good job!

And as stated they do prove the idea of marriage being between a man and a women only is evolving and one day gay marriage will be allowed if you like it or not.

TheDoc doing his usual back peddling. Your assertion was that it was 50-50. Good try though. :thumbsup

AmeliaG 08-05-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17392736)
Dude thats like saying child marriages are ok since it was allowed in other ancient cultures and essentially doesnt belong to a particular "religion". Look it is a slippery slope when you afford EXTRA BENEFITS and protections to people based on sexual preference, I mean you could make a case for Polygamy based on your arguments. You guys gotta realize you cant just have "no moral laws".


I don't think we should give Mormons extra welfare, if they can't afford more than one wife, but I absolutely think polygamy should be legal. The whole reason the Mormons spent so much dough on the whole Prop 8 debacle is because America forced them to abandon what they felt was legit marriage.

You can't legislate morality and shouldn't try to.

TheDoc 08-05-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393825)
TheDoc doing his usual back peddling. Your assertion was that it was 50-50. Good try though. :thumbsup

The subject you commented about was it evolving as were my replies. Nice failed twist though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17392958)
It's evolving without question... across the World and in America. 60 years ago without question it wouldn't have been a 50/50 split and today it is. Something is changing.

Even with your lame twist, are you saying those polls aren't showing a 50/50 split today? Without question they show a 50/50 split today, they lean one way, lean the other, some split down the middle.. that's 50/50 buddy.

As stated and the only point being made.. it is evolving, things are changing and one day if you like it or not, gay marriage will be allowed.

The Demon 08-05-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17393925)
The subject you commented about was it evolving as were my replies. Nice failed twist though.



Even with your lame twist, are you saying those polls aren't showing a 50/50 split today? Without question they show a 50/50 split today, they lean one way, lean the other, some split down the middle.. that's 50/50 buddy.

As stated and the only point being made.. it is evolving, things are changing and one day if you like it or not, gay marriage will be allowed.

Make up your mind Doc. There was no lame twist(typical), and you're just backpeddling. Furthermore, you pointed to 2-3 polls which proved your point and I pointed to 2-3 that proved mine. What you still fail to notice is that polls contain an unrepresentative sample size. So you saying the country is split 50/50 is retarded.. As usual.

TheDoc 08-06-2010 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17393946)
Make up your mind Doc. There was no lame twist(typical), and you're just backpeddling. Furthermore, you pointed to 2-3 polls which proved your point and I pointed to 2-3 that proved mine. What you still fail to notice is that polls contain an unrepresentative sample size. So you saying the country is split 50/50 is retarded.. As usual.

You are GFY's king of bullshit and lies... no doubt about that.

Here are my replies, douche bag. Clearly only an idiot would think I was focused on the 50/50 aspect, only an idiot wouldn't get what is being said. The polls aren't to show it's 50/50.. they are to show it's evolving forward and today it's 50/50 - that doesn't mean it has to be exact, shit head - my posts are about it evolving forward, not whatever gay twist you make it.


Here, let me quote my quotes so your little confused mind can handle the facts of what was posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17392801)
No mater what, gay marriage will be allowed at some point across the entire Country. If this doesn't do it, something else will, just give it time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17392958)
It's evolving without question... across the World and in America. 60 years ago without question it wouldn't have been a 50/50 split and today it is. Something is changing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17393081)
Evolving isn't just about time, it's about changing with time, the amount of time is not relevant in this situation.

This is from a religious type of site, full of polls... http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marp.htm from sources like Gallup and many other major ones. Good luck trying to discredit the truth.

Pretty clear that just in 10 years it has went from opposed to just about even, and that's still a few years back. It's even less opposed today.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17393106)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/beh...n_gay_mar.html

"Views on gay marriage are little changed since Post-ABC polling last touched on the topic, in April 2009. Then, 49 percent said they thought it should be legal, 46 percent illegal. In that poll, a wording experiment found little difference between support for legal marriages of "gay and lesbian couples and for those among "homosexual couples." (A CBS News/New York Times survey released yesterday conducted a similar experiment and found the wording did make a difference in their results.)"

The ABC Poll: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...43-503544.html



http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...t-for-sam.html

The PPIC poll found that support for gay marriage has reached 50 percent for the first time since the San Francisco-based think tank began polling on the issue in 2000. A sharp partisan division remains, with 64 percent of Democrats supporting same-sex marriage rights, while 67 percent of Republicans are opposed. However, 55 percent of independents are in favor.


http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-07-2...ity-california
"A Field Poll scheduled to be released today shows little has changed since May 2008, when 51 percent of voters said they supported same-sex marriage...."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/4/15/135522/956
A lot of polls from 2008, showing the split now...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/128291/am...-slightly.aspx
As we can see from the Gallup Poll Graph, support is going up, opposition is going down.

This is boring now...


P.S. No reason to lie again, this isn't 2-3 polls as you lied about... it's 7 different links with about 30 different polls and they all show the subject progressing forward! Which is what you asked for, to prove that it was evolving forward.

I have a feeling The Demon is a closest fag.... Openly gay haters are normally the ones taking the ass with a bat.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17394954)
You are GFY's king of bullshit and lies... no doubt about that.

Here are my replies, douche bag. Clearly only an idiot would think I was focused on the 50/50 aspect, only an idiot wouldn't get what is being said. The polls aren't to show it's 50/50.. they are to show it's evolving forward and today it's 50/50 - that doesn't mean it has to be exact, shit head - my posts are about it evolving forward, not whatever gay twist you make it.


Here, let me quote my quotes so your little confused mind can handle the facts of what was posted.












P.S. No reason to lie again, this isn't 2-3 polls as you lied about... it's 7 different links with about 30 different polls and they all show the subject progressing forward! Which is what you asked for, to prove that it was evolving forward.

Try again, you said the country is at 50-50 by citing a few polls. I cited polls that weren't 50-50, and you backpeddle to claim your argument was that it was "moving forward". We've all seen this act from you Doc. THat's probably why I'm the only one even entertains your posts. I told you I enjoy arguing with someone twice my age and half my intelligence.

Quote:

I have a feeling The Demon is a closest fag.... Openly gay haters are normally the ones taking the ass with a bat.
TheDoc proves once again that you don't have to be intelligent to type a bunch of random bullshit on a forum. Thanks for the laughs man, you don't ever disappoint. :1orglaugh

TheDoc 08-06-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17395073)
Try again, you said the country is at 50-50 by citing a few polls. I cited polls that weren't 50-50, and you backpeddle to claim your argument was that it was "moving forward". We've all seen this act from you Doc. THat's probably why I'm the only one even entertains your posts. I told you I enjoy arguing with someone twice my age and half my intelligence.



TheDoc proves once again that you don't have to be intelligent to type a bunch of random bullshit on a forum. Thanks for the laughs man, you don't ever disappoint. :1orglaugh

Damn you're stupid. It makes no difference if it's 40/60 or 60/40 today, the fact that it sways each direction is what makes it 50/50 you moron, it doesn't have to be exact... it is about 50/50 today, only a complete idiot would argue that and clearly you're that complete idiot as you think it makes a difference when the point was it's evolving from not being accepted at all, to whatever the hell it's at today.. which is higher than it was, douche bag.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17395139)
Damn you're stupid. It makes no difference if it's 40/60 or 60/40 today, the fact that it sways each direction is what makes it 50/50 you moron, it doesn't have to be exact... it is about 50/50 today, only a complete idiot would argue that and clearly you're that complete idiot as you think it makes a difference when the point was it's evolving from not being accepted at all, to whatever the hell it's at today.. which is higher than it was, douche bag.

Hahaha and theDoc's argument has hit the low point as it usually does. He contradicts himself repeatedly, and then goes into this "if you don't agree you're an idiot" mode, without any kind of proof. Embarrassing someone as stupid as you is the easiest thing I've ever done. Stick to whatever it is that you do when you don't type champ, because the last thing you want is EVERYBODY thinking you're a moron, instead of most people. :thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 08-06-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17395147)
Hahaha and theDoc's argument has hit the low point as it usually does. He contradicts himself repeatedly, and then goes into this "if you don't agree you're an idiot" mode, without any kind of proof. Embarrassing someone as stupid as you is the easiest thing I've ever done. Stick to whatever it is that you do when you don't type champ, because the last thing you want is EVERYBODY thinking you're a moron, instead of most people. :thumbsup

What are you, a fucking narrator now? Why do you talk to people as though they are the third person? Get a life Demon. Fuck.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17395155)
What are you, a fucking narrator now? Why do you talk to people as though they are the third person? Get a life Demon. Fuck.

Says the guy who starts 5+ threads on gfy daily and participates in them throughout the day?

Of course you're just mad that you were made to look stupid. :1orglaugh

http://gods4suckers.net/images/2010/...rite-fish2.jpg

Amputate Your Head 08-06-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17395162)
Says the guy who starts 5+ threads on gfy daily and participates in them throughout the day?

Of course you're just mad that you were made to look stupid. :1orglaugh

http://gods4suckers.net/images/2010/...rite-fish2.jpg

I'm not mad at anything. I'm annoyed by you, but certainly not mad. Made to look stupid? Really? You do that to yourself with every post you make.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17395164)
I'm not mad at anything. I'm annoyed by you, but certainly not mad. Made to look stupid? Really? You do that to yourself with every post you make.

See, if I didn't make you look stupid repeatedly, you would have some credibility in that assertion. Other than that, you're back to "I know you are but what am I". Maybe you wouldn't be so annoyed if you weren't so incompetent and didn't argue with your superiors. Just saying, big boy:)

TheDoc 08-06-2010 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17395147)
Hahaha and theDoc's argument has hit the low point as it usually does. He contradicts himself repeatedly, and then goes into this "if you don't agree you're an idiot" mode, without any kind of proof. Embarrassing someone as stupid as you is the easiest thing I've ever done. Stick to whatever it is that you do when you don't type champ, because the last thing you want is EVERYBODY thinking you're a moron, instead of most people. :thumbsup

At least I know you have nothing to come back with.... and what's funny,

You simply can't stand the fact that Gay Marriage is more accepted today that it was just a few years back. One day it will be allowed and no mater what your gay hating religious freak morals think applies to the constitution today.

Are you afraid of your children getting the gay bug and you having to go to a gay wedding or something?

Amputate Your Head 08-06-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17395168)
See, if I didn't make you look stupid repeatedly, you would have some credibility in that assertion. Other than that, you're back to "I know you are but what am I". Maybe you wouldn't be so annoyed if you weren't so incompetent and didn't argue with your superiors. Just saying, big boy:)

What is this, some kind of points game for you or something? You do realize that everything posted on this board means exactly fuck all to the rest of the world. Your opinions, my opinions, Doc's opinions.... they all mean shit dumbass. All of this is just wasted time here. You do understand that don't you? I'm here participating in my threads every day because I'm wasting time, because I can. You however, seem to be actually vested in your posts. That's probably not healthy Demon.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17395169)
At least I know you have nothing to come back with.... and what's funny,

You simply can't stand the fact that Gay Marriage is more accepted today that it was just a few years back. One day it will be allowed and no mater what your gay hating religious freak morals think applies to the constitution today.

I never stated that it wasn't more accepted today. That was just you back peddling when I proved that it wasn't 50-50. See Doc, you're an idiot and as an idiot, you're unable to prove your assertions. When your arguments get disproved, you go on a different tangent, claiming it's what you've been saying all along. Then you continuously grasp at straws until someone(other than me) tells you to shut up, in which case you retreat for about a week to recharge your brain cells.

The Demon 08-06-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17395179)
What is this, some kind of points game for you or something? You do realize that everything posted on this board means exactly fuck all to the rest of the world. Your opinions, my opinions, Doc's opinions.... they all mean shit dumbass. All of this is just wasted time here. You do understand that don't you? I'm here participating in my threads every day because I'm wasting time, because I can. You however, seem to be actually vested in your posts. That's probably not healthy Demon.

Oh I see, good point amputate. So me "narrating" because all of this means shit and I'm wasting time as you say, means I need to get a life. But you posting virtually all day in many threads and wasting time means you don't? Ahhhh the double standards. I wouldn't make fun of you if you didn't put your foot in your mouth so many times. How about we agree to disagree and move on:)


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