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Just in HD now. :1orglaugh |
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It's a cute idea and I'm sure some sites will do something like this but it's not going to save shit. It's over. People don't want to join sites anymore because the content is free now. Your industry let this happen, I don't understand really why but nothing will change unless there's a big lockdown...ya keep dreaming of that day. |
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The traffic graphs posted don't look like a joke to me!
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"Cut off their water" ? stop advertising for their traffic. |
adarpt or die.
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Still waiting for the punchline...
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Blame youtube, blame google.
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That flasher will eventually go to jail, but justice is just way too slow. :pimp |
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Yeah, that's pretty much the situation. I did try playing the drums and the viola and tuba to "adapt"...but it seems that no matter what I played, the free pussy kicked my ass everytime. :1orglaugh |
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the fact that no one seems able to control piracy and content theft online is the real issue, be it in tubes, rapidshare, torrents, etc. tubes are just more user friendly (and for that reason get a disporponiate amount of the traffic and attention). |
Full length movies won't sell shit, but to be honest, those old looking sites need to adapt. Adaption doesn't mean posting full movies, but they look like shit. Seriously. Something out of the 90's. Or even 80's, my Commodore can do better. And you can't put up some few ugly women in their 50's fucking in a classroom and promote them as "teen" niche. Those times are over, those bookmarkers must be dead by now.
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LIFE LESSON #26:
There are TWO types of porn "fans": 1. Those who just want to whack off, have a pop, get a quick orgasm and move on. It's like eating cookies to them: I'm hungry, what's in the pantry? Well, I really like Chips Ahoy but all there's only Oreos...well, Oreos are free and I don't feel like dragging my ass to the store so GULP. Ahhh that felt good! Now what did I have to do with the rest of my day? 2. Afficionados. The "discerning" consumer. Someone who loves porn but loves HIS kind of porn (whatever that may be). Fetish? Niche? Sure - but even guys who just like POV (so they can fantasize it's their dicks getting sucked/fucked) or big titted blondes or group sex or MILFs...THESE kind of porn fans WILL buy but only for something they consider "woth it". SO: It's OUR jobs to stop concentrating on porn fan #1 because, honestly, he just wants to come and doesn't really care who/why/how/where etc. Therefore, we need to focus on porn fan #2: buy OUR shit because it fulfills what you want (and need?). There's also an age factor: younger porn fans raised on free shit are disinclined to pay for something they've always gotten for free. So fuck the under-30's (they usually have little to no $ anyway). When you get to the over 40's - those with money, busy lives and responsibilities - they WILL PAY, for the convenience of not searching through free tubes for hours JUST to find that short-haired big-titted blonde they love to jerk it to. So what do "older" porn fans WANT? Design your tours for THEM, focus your marketing skills on THEM, appeal to THEM and their needs. And guess what? Most people in this category do NOT want to visit a porn tour that looks like they just walked into a Red Light District in Amsterdam. Flashing GIFs, this element POPPING in their face, music screeching in their ears..... Finally, if you're an under-40 adult webmaster then chances are you're struggling BIG TIME. NOT because you didn't get into the biz soon enough but because the way you view the world doesn't "match" your customer's expectations. You're marketing like a 28 year old and have no clue what the 44 year old porn BUYER wants, and what will motivate him to open his wallet. So check yoself b4 you wreck yoself. </RANT> |
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Vsex.com is the answer to tube sites.
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jump on the train, then you wont care anymore. Otherwise, I feel your argument as it is warranted but life is short and there is money to be made
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Yes 16 pics versus a full movie is a big difference NOW but back in 95-2000 most people were still on Dialup and pictures were the in thing And back then whole sets from members areas were getting put up on tgps and no one said a damn thing then So in essence is kinda same thing thats happening now just in a different perspective. So those times versus these times i'd say are somewhat similar.
If you havent taken notice the spons programs that are surviving are the ones that have inner dealings with the tubes. Say what you want, but reality is spons tell us affiliates one thing to get the free traff but do totally opposite. I know at least 10 big spons that are in the pockets of the big tubes and they are making MAD bank. In reality think about it from business end of things, Why wouldn't they deal with the tubes? they only have to deal with 1 or 2 people per tube on a regular basis, not 500 diff affiliates asking how to do this and that, and they make BIG MONEY period. Therefore They can pare down their support staff and increase their profit margin. Do they post here on the board bitching Why of course they do because they want all the affiliates that do send em traffic to think they are 100% legit and totally against tubes, |
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Basically my exact opinion I have felt for some time before being a affiliate manager. So many sites just continue on as they have since day one, posting new content yes, but no other progressions. Better SEO, marketing, design, layout, quality traffic trading is what will matter. I don't see a tube site as a requirement to adapt and I personally don't even find them appealing, most are a bunch of low quality thumbs that all look the same. I MUCH rather prefer a TGP with some creativity to it that makes it different and appealing. To this day, I think I actually viewed a tube once for my personal enjoyment, I stick to MGP/TGPs when I bother to surf in my personal time. Some of them have been around for 10 years. If I was going to spend time viewing a entire movie I would rather just buy the DVD or get a membership for the quality etc. Do something different, market your site to be unique in some way. :2 cents: |
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An industry that keeps selling what's free is doomed to failure. An industry that desires to survive will adapt and start selling what's not being given away for free. Live shows is an obvious example. Costly yes, impossible no. Would it take surfers back from Tubes in growing numbers enough to hurt Tubes sites finances? Maybe. Could we then target Dating sites and start giving away their content? Needs someone to work out how it can be done but again possible. Selling it half the price of normal prices, for instance what AFF charge, or directing people to free and more reliable Dating sites. Could again be another add on to help revive the industry. A big lock down of content is impossible. Totally and utterly impossible. If in the very unlikely chance of the Internet industry doing this 75% it leaves 25% who won't. If 100% of the Internet industry did it new content would be ripped from DVDs. Or did you think porn was just on the Internet? |
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The technology to make content 99.9% theft proof is already easily and cheaply available, so that's not the problem. Now you just need make content which is worth paying for. You are the producer, I'm sure you can come up with such content without me needing to spell it out for you. |
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And it does not need to be only solo girl, it can be solo, lesbian, boy girl or even groups. The more varied the better. And who says it need to be once a day? It can be more often than that. It does not have to be one producer feeding it into a site or a big sponsor only doing one a day. The only thing that holds us back is the cost. With so much spent to get people to the tour there's not enough left for the members area. Quote:
Let's dream that 100% of websites lock down content. What will the pirates do? They will take content from DVDs. Porn exists beyond the Internet. :winkwink: Quote:
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What I find most stunning about the tubes is the incredible traffic they receive. We used to drool over The Hun's daily traffic figures, but many of these tubes put even a peak Hun to shame.
The top TGPs screwed up by clinging to the same process for too long, which in turn caused the smaller TGPs to do the same since submitters weren't going to create one version for submission to the "TGP mafia" and another for the more liberal TGP owners. In fact, I don't think the submission rules really even changed over a 10+ year period. With all of this traffic that the largest tubes get, it now seems pretty clear that surfers disliked the TGP format all these years. You can of course get into the argument of longer, higher quality material, but I think the general presentation of that material played a huge role in surfers leaving the TGP for the tube. |
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