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the correct answer is zero years, because its never going to happen.
real porn with real people will always be the dominant thing in this biz. virtual porn will get more popular but it won't put any pornstars (who are real pornstars) out of work. the 3d stuff i see now still looks like ridiculous, expressionless fake shit. on the other hand traditional hentai porn can and will give me a woody. |
One thing about being older is the fact that I've lived through many transitions and evolutions.
Way back in 1976 I bought an super 8mm camera and set out to make movies of my friends surfing. It was a real pain hand splicing the film together and trying to get something worth looking at AND there was no sound. At that time I never dreamed of the digital equipment like I have today that's affordable and better than the Hollywood movie studios were using back in 1976. Look where we are today. When I first got on the internet I joined a photography forum and the hot topic was film vs digital. There were so many " expert " photographers that kept saying there is no way the digital camera will reach the quality of film. Look where we are today. Back to the late seventies again and I remember waiting a half hour in a bar to sit down and play this game called pong. Never did I imagine several years later that I could play an epic video game like Modern Warfare in my living room against others online around the world. What I've learned over the years is never say never and wait patiently for it to happen because so far it has.. CG is evolving at a rapid pace and I have no doubts that the day will come when an actor's image is replaced by CG. A movie like Shriek is a primitive example and Avatar takes another important step in the progression. I imagine someday a developer will have a library of expressions and mannerisms that they can add to their CG character and that will eliminate the need for actors except for adding to the library. As far as the surfers having to relate to a real person, two things will probably come into play. The developers will probably keep it a secret whether they are real or fake much like the 30 year old solo girls that pretend to be 19 or the surfers will accept the CG character and then search for their favorite one. I imagine the day will come when it will all become interactive and the viewer will be able to physically step into a CG environment whether it be a game, adult or social interactive based. We've come a long way in the last thirty years and going digital was like putting the gas pedal to the floorboard. I'd say the next ten to fifteen years is going to be mind blowing with things like this as well as in the medical field. Life on other planets, time travel and whatever else may be in our future excites me and I hope I live long enough to see it happen. It's been a fun ride so far :) |
hehe brings back memories of Spicy City and Sirens of Sex Drive
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huh? not even slightly stylized? What's the point of exact simulation using months of computer time Vs a $1000 per hour actress? |
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anyone remember what cgi did to the starwars movies?
people want sweaty nasty and down and dirty and they want to see stormtroopers bumping into doors case closed... :) |
^ wtf????
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My first PC cost twice what I paid for the one I have now and had 1/10 the capability. |
Some random thoughts regarding this topic ...
* Government health authorities may encourage the use of computer animation in hopes of reducing STDs. * Allows for scenes that can't be shot legally, such as various sex acts / underage. * Reuse of old material. While producers have already been doing that for ages via cutting and splicing, computer animation provides the ability to do so more easily, and more importantly, generate completely new scenes. * Live video chat may be computer animated too with no real person involved and/or less people - ie. one person could run multiple video chats at once, augmenting the computer in tough situations, such as a visitor asking a tough question and/or seeking an action that isn't already pre-programmed. * Look at past technologies that people said would never replace people, and yet later have. With all that said, there are many instances in which technology goes full-circle ... there could be a resurgence, or at least a continue niche demand, for real, live actors. Regardless, it's practically inevitable that much of the material in the future will be computer generated... For many aspiring performers, the only viable alternative may be to resort to the oldest trade of all, prostitution. At least for a few decades until the mechanical side of robotics catches up to where computer processing is now. Ron |
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If they could produce something that looked 100% real and sounded 100% real and kept the fact that it was all CGI a secret, they might pull it off, but I think a lot of porn buyers do so because they want to connect with the chick and dream of fucking her and you can't fuck a cartoon. |
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When it doesn't take 300 programmers and 48,000 man hours or about 1 month to create just 15 minutes of footage.
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Thanks for the props for my years of service, appreciate it. and no disrespect taken, however the terms 3D and Toons do and will have a bearing on the future because for almost the last 15 years now that is what we have been beating into the heads of our buyers, fans, customers etc, and that is what they have been and will continue to search for. back in the late 90's we tried the whole CG Porn, CGI Porn, CG erotica, CGI erotica etc etc, but it never really stuck not too mention the search results would then also be filled with results for the CGI coding stuff, we opted for 3D Toons, and it stuck and I do believe it will continue to stick, it took hundreds if not thousands of us years to teach the surfers and webmasters to use the proper terms, I don't see a name change in the upcoming years, farther down the road maybe, but for now and at least the next 5 years lets say, 3D Toon / 3D Toon Porn / (and my fave) Erotic 3D Toons are here to stay. Now if you want to take the reigns and try a name change and recreate all the steps we did years ago, by all means do it, but rest assured you'll piss off all of us who own all the "3D Toon" domains we worked so hard to make work with the engines lol. I'm all for a name change IF and ONLY IF 3-D makes the porn push, because THEN it will be a needed name change, until then, it's really just semantics -Loki- |
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I guess my grandchildren wont be perved.
Sabby:) |
when avatar came out he said in the next few years they could make a movie with james dean, bogart and monroe and it would be believable. so I would think they could do porn too
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Real men do not beat off to drawings!
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What price point are we looking at then when you can expect porn actors to be replaced with CG? Won't that be the defining moment when a content producer will say, "Fuck, this cost the same as doing it all on CG"?
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if they could produce something that looked 100% real and sounded 100% real and kept the fact that it was all CGI a secret... will be great...
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Avatar is a fantasy movie situated in a word that was made up, everybody knows that, so it makes it easy to accept a lot of computer work, cause everybody knows its computer generated from the start. The movie is about the fantasy world itself, its not based on actors. Porn is about real things - pussy, dick, fucking :) I think there is some misunderstanding in this thread. Its obvious that computer generated movies, be it porn or not are here, and will get more popularity with time. This thread was about real life actors loosing jobs because of that. Thats what I was pretty much reacting to. |
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Cameron's " Titanic " leaned heavily on CG to create the movie and the audience accepted it. They were willing to overlook the fact the scenes were not real and immerse themselves into the story. The OP's question was about CG becoming exactly like real life actors and I think at that point the audience will again be able to overlook the fact it's not real and instead focus on the message it's sending. I once saw an article about Photoshop and they had a picture of a female " model " that was actually a composite of features from many models that had been stitched together using PS. The eyes from one model the nose from another and so on. The end result was a seemingly real model. If I were to post that pic in a would you hit it thread EVERYONE, except those that already new it's origin would think that was a real person. The day will come when actors will be replaced in the same way and the audience will accept it. |
3D toons porn- sorry great names keep em rockin but sometimes markets and the public create or change names for things regardless.
agents for major actors in Hollywood are writing deals for stars to get paid CG likeness royalties for films they will be starring in but never apperaring in, as in the movie Beowolf with Angelina Jolie and Anthony Hopkins... voice doubles are next. |
probably faster than we think :)
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