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NaughtyVisions 09-20-2010 10:55 AM

Just curious, I don't know him or anything, but if it can happen to a company like RK, what kind of perspective does that put Dirty D's case in? Is he still the ultimate slime, or was he just duped like RK? Or is RK now slime, too?

Just wondering everyone's thoughts...

_Richard_ 09-20-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 17519724)
I bet someone said that the last time she ran away and got home again :)

Wouldn't surprise me if she ran away again before the year's out.

makes one wonder about that parents.

OneHungLo 09-20-2010 11:25 AM

I don't know if just as clear cut as you say. I know of a case not too long ago where a black girl was filmed by a few companies that turned out to be a minor with a fake ID. The Feds were involved, content was removed and nobody was charged.

But I agree, it's risky and could go either way. If they think they got a good enough case against you, I'm sure they would try it. Could scienter ( guilty knowledge) be used as a defense here since they were legitimately duped into believing she was of age?

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17519577)
People will get fined or jailed for disseminating child porn.




People will go to jail over the production of this. How many will be the question.


The law doesn't fuck around with this.

The girl could have had 10 government ID's, if she is 15 and you shoot her, you go to jail.


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" Everyone has heard that one.


That means it doesn't mater if you didn't know she was under age. According to the law, "You should have known".



If she had really good ID's it will mitigate how severe your sentence is after you get prosecuted. But 100% YOU WILL GET PROSECUTED!


opflix 09-20-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17519720)
Tons of piercings, multiple tatoos, and "old scars" on her legs.. and she's 15? Jesus.

this braud is underage only on an ID but mentally... how old is she really to even go this far? :ticking

jimmy-3-way 09-20-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 17519835)
I don't know if just as clear cut as you say. I know of a case not too long ago where a black girl was filmed by a few companies that turned out to be a minor with a fake ID. The Feds were involved, content was removed and nobody was charged.

I know of multiple occasions where this happened with 16/17 year old girls and no charges were filed.

Barry-xlovecam 09-20-2010 02:21 PM

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18 U.S.C §2257
(b) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall, with respect to every performer portrayed in a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct?
(1) ascertain, by examination of an identification document containing such information, the performer?s name and date of birth, and require the performer to provide such other indicia of his or her identity as may be prescribed by regulations;
(2) ascertain any name, other than the performer?s present and correct name, ever used by the performer including maiden name, alias, nickname, stage, or professional name; and
(3) record in the records required by subsection (a) the information required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection and such other identifying information as may be prescribed by regulation.

The word verify is never mentioned. Perhaps, the standard of a reasonable effort to ascertain that it is not obviously a fake ID?

For discussion purposes only and not legal advice.

rowan 09-20-2010 04:58 PM

Ok, I read it but still don't get it. How can someone born in 1990, nearly 20 years ago, be an underaged 15 year old runaway?

She was 15 when she split? The RK content was shot more than 2 years ago? Me confused.

edit: I get it now, her alias DOB is from 1990, her real one is 1995.

BlackCrayon 09-20-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17519577)
People will get fined or jailed for disseminating child porn.




People will go to jail over the production of this. How many will be the question.


The law doesn't fuck around with this.

The girl could have had 10 government ID's, if she is 15 and you shoot her, you go to jail.


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" Everyone has heard that one.


That means it doesn't mater if you didn't know she was under age. According to the law, "You should have known".



If she had really good ID's it will mitigate how severe your sentence is after you get prosecuted. But 100% YOU WILL GET PROSECUTED!

well thats pretty stupid. send a 15 year old with amazing fake ids to your competition to shut them down and put them in jail!

Alprazolam 09-20-2010 05:20 PM

that shit is all over the internet.

JustDaveXxx 09-21-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 17519835)
I don't know if just as clear cut as you say. I know of a case not too long ago where a black girl was filmed by a few companies that turned out to be a minor with a fake ID. The Feds were involved, content was removed and nobody was charged.

But I agree, it's risky and could go either way. If they think they got a good enough case against you, I'm sure they would try it. Could scienter ( guilty knowledge) be used as a defense here since they were legitimately duped into believing she was of age?


The law is clear cut like that. Your attorneys interpretation of the law and how well he uses the rules and circumstances of your case to defend you is everything.


The circumstances of the case and where you got busted, is what will save you or break you.


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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17519973)
I know of multiple occasions where this happened with 16/17 year old girls and no charges were filed.

16/17 is not 15.


And if she was 14 or 13 the trouble gets steeper and steeper. The courts see every age from 17 down as a worse and worse offense.


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17521054)
well thats pretty stupid. send a 15 year old with amazing fake ids to your competition to shut them down and put them in jail!

I worked at nightclubs all through college and can spot a fake any day of the week. If you are in the business of shooting young 1st time girls, you need to know what you are doing when checking ID's. They offer "spotting Fake ID classes". In California ABC (the department of Alcohol Beverage Control) offers it. Club Security guards and club bouncers take these courses all of the time. Keep in mind if a girl is not 21 and she is caught by ABC, club gets fined and can loose its liquor license. Its a serious class to prevent a serious fine.

I have not shot girls because of fakes and have not shot girls because the girl in the real ID was not her. Thats why we do 2 IDs. Because most girls don't go out and get 2 fakes.


I know it sounds lame, but depending on the state you are at and the city the court is in, can heavily weigh in on the cases outcome.


Example: Torrance California is well know for having a "hang em" court. I have personally seen people with little to no evidence and a shity public defender, get fucked every which way with a term called "In the best interest of justice."




Im not necessarily trying to be right as much as i'm trying to explain that when you break certain laws in certain areas, depending on the political views in that area and depending if it is an election year, all of this can heavily weigh in on your case out come.:2 cents:

Alprazolam 09-21-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17515203)

the downside of being as famous as RealityKings has become, you are an easy target, hence that lawsuit by the music companies against RK.

jesus christ you are a moron.

do you think its possible at all that they are getting sued because they used copyrighted music instead? they broke the law.

they aren't the victim here. they knowingly played that music for added effect.

give me a fucking break.

Mutt 09-21-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17523151)
jesus christ you are a moron.

do you think its possible at all that they are getting sued because they used copyrighted music instead? they broke the law.

they aren't the victim here. they knowingly played that music for added effect.

give me a fucking break.

there are MILLIONS of similar copyright infringements all over the Internet, the lawyers working for the music companies smelled big money because RK is one of the world's largest online porn companies. they aren't suing one of the thousands of mom and pop porn companies with unlicensed popular music on their videos. The first rule of suing anybody is knowing that whoever you're suing is financially worth what you're seeking in damages. Lawyers especially these types who are probably working on contingency aren't interested in pyrrhic victories - they want the MONEY.

of course if there was no copyrighted music they wouldn't be being sued at all- thanks for reminding me Captain Oblivious

bronco67 09-21-2010 11:22 AM

In other news, parents think they are doing something cool by spelling their kid's names in a weird way.

campimp 09-21-2010 11:56 AM

yikes...


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