Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574830)

he has been paying back money in the wallets to my knowledge.......

Visa is out of his control for now...and will probably take months but I'm betting it will get paid back....

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17574843)

Have you been in touch with Chris personally? Because the amount of stories we have been told, it's hard for me to believe anything.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574810)

you have benefited yourself directly from events Chris has sponsored and you attended.

Lots of us have had problems. Epass going down hurt me too.

I honestly don't think Chris had any choice in the matter, his history doesn't show that. He wouldn't have done what he did with epoch if he didn't care.

After dealing with a bankruptcy myself, I find it funny how fast people can turn on you. Doesn't seem to matter how good you were to them for years, one thing outside of your control and it's the end of the world. Those same people will stab you in the back when things are good too. It's a wake up call to know who you want to deal with in the future.


I ask you this - if the virtual visa eventually gets paid out - would you do business with Chris again? I would. From the sounds of most on here, they would rather trust an unknown who could run away with everything then Chris who paid out the wallets and is waiting on the visa funds.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574810)

Chris who paid out the wallets

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17574747)

A slight bit of transparency is all that was really needed.

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17574896)

Nobody got their ach deposits today, less than what 12 hours after the email from epass saying they are done? We will see tomorrow, if no ACH deposits then I think it's a pretty good guess that wallet money is no more. I have supported epassporte for many years and until this email I still had faith in them, still told people I think they will survive. I have about 7k at risk here, hell I had so much faith in epassporte I kept accepting payments until yesterday. If I get my money out and Chris opens a new program I'll be first in line to use it and promote it.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574706)

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Unfortunately things outside of Chris's control brought the company down. It happens.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17574886)

You are seriously confused. While there were / are many trolls around here Sleazy is serious. He is actually that fucking stupid.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574853)

i lost money to epassporte - but I have a different perspective after having many things outside of my control happen to me in business and going through a bankruptcy.

try loosing your home and most everything you worked for your whole life for cause you got robbed multiple times and fucked on a refinance deal cause the stock market crashed a month before you were ready to deal with it.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17574926)

events mean shit. most here couldn't care less about webmaster parties or sponsored event crap. they just want to do business with a company that is not going to suddenly pull the rug from under their feet.

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17574960)

The guy who committed suicide in part due to Epassporte fucking him would pity you, but he's dead. Dead people can't pity anyone unfortunately, sorry.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574912)

nope - but stories are just that and I assume with a situation like this the stories are out of control now.

come on Kristin - We ALL knew Chris choose to work with gambling - it wasn't a big secret, and we all CHOOSE to continue to work with epassporte KNOWING the risks...if the gambling was a huge issue for you, why continue to use them?

I had no money in the wallet - and lost what I had on the visa.

I honestly hope you get your money back, I know you guys had a lot more in there then I ever did.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17574747)

A slight bit of transparency is all that was really needed.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574732)

this is someone who saw Chris spend 6-7 years with epass breaking new ground and doing amazing things for webmasters. Watching him give back with parties and events and sponsorships and reasonable rates on a virtual visa card for a demographic most people wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

This is someone who is saying THANK YOU for what you did do to Chris Mallic.

and this is someone who's pretty disgusted with a lot of the short sightedness of many of the people here.

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 17574961)

I would reserve gratitude once payments have been made back to those who are owed on wallet and visa. Chris ran a great business for 7 years, no doubt about that, but the next few weeks is when people will judge his actions. I realize Visa has a lot of power at the present moment, but I'd wait until payments are made (or the lack thereof) before saying thanks.
WG

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574962)

I believe Chris will pay everyone back. Just my sense of it. my gut tells me he will. I know everyone is MAD epass is gone -we all LOVED IT and want to blame someone. I get that.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17574951)

What things out side of his control? Do share with the rest of us how there was no error on his part and how he was a victim as well.


Good play on your part, you lost credibility with everyone here, so sucking up and defending the guy a lot of people are mad at may get you some brownie points with him and perhaps a few hand outs. Not like people here are going to like you any less for it, they already don't like you.

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17574993)

People aren't mad because their beloved system is no longer, people are mad because a millionaire who continues funds millions of dollars projects is not speaking up, taking responsibility, sending in Michael O to deliver the bombs, and well frankly, his teeth. :)

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17575002)

i would bet he's been advised by his legal representation not to speak on the matter at this time

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17575002)

i would bet he's been advised by his legal representation not to speak on the matter at this time

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17574971)

I lost no money on this personally and I would only take ePass from those who absolutely had to send it. I was down to one payment per month for $500. I never kept money in there, I never trusted it. But we had to use it if we wanted that payment each month.

Eh, we had $40k in there for TB, won't break us if we don't get it back. I'm not so upset about the money (probably b/c I lost none) but the principle behind Chris' actions is what just floors me.

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17574960)

The guy who committed suicide in part due to Epassporte fucking him would pity you, but he's dead. Dead people can't pity anyone unfortunately, sorry.

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 17575011)

but he did send a message via epass in the beginning saying all our funds are safe

Originally Posted by sleazydream (Post 17574706)

for 6-7 years epassporte made life a lot easier for an enormous amount of people. It was the best payment option available for many adult webmasters and the amount of people that used it is proof of that. It worked.

Unfortunately things outside of chris's control brought the company down. It happens.

I'm sad to see it go.

But i want to be one of the first to say - thank you chris - for everything you did do and everything you tried to do for the people in this industry.

At the end of the day - you did a lot more then most and don't let the whinny babies get you down.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17575002)

i would bet he's been advised by his legal representation not to speak on the matter at this time

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17574976)

LMAO, so basically it's"

"thanks for the parties bro! they were kick ass I had a good time and will miss them. I only had $5 on my VV card, which 1/2 of it was technically not mine anyway since I am in bankruptzies. I don't know why these people are whining about losing money, the parties were kick ass!

I know it wasn't your fault either even though I have no fucking clue what happened!! thanks for the memories Chris, that is all I have left that the bankruptzies didn't take away from me. That and my kick ass site yessignals. """

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574969)

someone committed suicide?

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17575059)

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17574737)

Thank you iBill. You helped a lot of people get rich.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17574994)

you're assuming I HAD credibility to start with? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17575059)

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17575030)

i don't see his actions as terrible yet. They might turn bad - but not yet...... I doubt there's much he can do for a while...


i still want to say thank you for 6-7 years to chris for a payment system that was awesome.