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onwebcam 10-13-2010 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17604970)
Nope, you never answered my question. You skated it. And everyone here knows all they need to about you. You're the shitbag who comes here all the time pissing on the world and calling them sheep as you copy paste some bullshit straight off a conspiracy site and praise it like gospel. That's who you are.

Here, you want to try and claim you answered my question. You take this analogy:



Now answer this question:



Do it in one sentence, minimal words. Don't go on some bullshit rant skating around talking about where banks get their money from or some bullshit. Just answer the damn question.

Your claim was that the person is a "slave to debt made out of thin air". When the reality is that person paid 1.50 for a pepsi.

I'm not pissing on the World. I'm teaching those who choose to listen and learn. And pissing on the ones with their/your head up the ass.. Just above your post you have someone who is telling you that there was a case just last week.. That's just one of MANY. This is not my first post on this subject.. You could probably go back in 2005 here and find me talking about this... I have to do a refresher now and then and squirt a load on people like yourself.

How does debt make you a slave?

I can't explain in a short time how the OP is just a small part of a much bigger scheme and I'll leave it at that.. I use the term slave as a trigger mechanism mostly..

potter 10-13-2010 10:12 PM
pwnd....

Rochard 10-13-2010 10:36 PM
What kills me is the concept of a house going up in value. I bought my house five years ago. That's five years worth of wear and tear on the doors, the floors, the wires, the AC, heating, water heater, roof, blah blah blah blah blah.... My house should be going down in value.

Fuck the banks. I told my bank I could walk away from my house and buy the same identical house across the street for half the price. They reduced my principle by half and dropped my interest rate to 1%. LOL. Idiots.

gloryholeprincess 10-14-2010 09:03 AM
Not that I feel strongly about this but I have an answer.

Are the monstrous sums that are lent out for student and house loans meant to keep the workforce from just quitting their jobs and becoming non taxable subjects? If you have a loan, you can't just up and quit and sit around and think about what you could be doing. You live for the weekend and then you barely get relaxed before you are back at your desk again. No time to think or reflect on your situation, the situation of your country or anything else. You have to be part of the system in order to barely stay afloat. You have to take the abuse of an ignorant boss that is usual in everyday corporate life. (of course, we are all on here because we aren't part of the corporate life but...)
I am getting my Masters and the amount of money that was offered was astronomical. You could finance your rent and food. I couldn't believe it. The people that do it will never finish paying their School loans.
They will be Slaves to the Dollar.
Just my humble opinion Potter. :D
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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17604841)
How does that make the person borrowing the dollar a slave?

96ukssob 10-14-2010 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17604514)
I believe it because it's true.. You don't because you can't believe you've been conned all your life.
i bet your the same person that believes they dont have to pay taxes too right?

regardless of what loop hole you found, go ahead a try this and see what happens. Are you married with kids living in a home? I bet you if so, you wouldnt even take that gamble :2 cents:

at the same time, did you know that if you purchase a car from a dealership and they offering you financing and something goes wrong with the car, you can walk away from the loan because the lending bank then assumes responsibility of the loan? yes its true, but you will still get a repo on your credit report and will take months in court to get it straight, but its 100% legal.

I'm dealing with that now with a car that I bought over a year ago. I'm sure as hell not going to have a repo on my credit report to get out of paying for the car... ill let it go on in courts first :2 cents:

opflix 10-14-2010 11:19 AM
the central point in this entire thread and proof that most of you ARE sheep is that you believe money has true value :eek7 ...it is the controlling aspect of the prevailing paradigm that runs our current society and if you can't step out of the box, understand the concept and free yourself from the illusion then YES, you are a slave.

slaves work for nothing, money is in debt, debt is money, money is inevitably nothing, if you work for money, then what does that make you? :2 cents:

gloryholeprincess 10-14-2010 11:23 AM
Not hungry. :food-smil02 lol
Piper
Quote:
Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17606723)
the central point in this entire thread and proof that most of you ARE sheep is that you believe money has true value :eek7 ...it is the controlling aspect of the prevailing paradigm that runs our current society and if you can't step out of the box, understand the concept and free yourself from the illusion then YES, you are a slave.

slaves work for nothing, money is in debt, debt is money, money is inevitably nothing, if you work for money, then what does that make you? :2 cents:

onwebcam 10-14-2010 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17606329)
i bet your the same person that believes they dont have to pay taxes too right?
Income taxes go to fund the interest on the paper printed by the Ferderal Reserve.. The National Debt is where the government since 1933 when the US as you know it was declared bankrupt has spent more money than they collect in taxes because they are paying interest on paper they can print off themselves per the Constitution.. We shouldn't have to pay income taxes because Congress has the power to print money themselves.........

onwebcam 10-14-2010 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17606723)
the central point in this entire thread and proof that most of you ARE sheep is that you believe money has true value :eek7 ...it is the controlling aspect of the prevailing paradigm that runs our current society and if you can't step out of the box, understand the concept and free yourself from the illusion then YES, you are a slave.

slaves work for nothing, money is in debt, debt is money, money is inevitably nothing, if you work for money, then what does that make you? :2 cents:
:thumbsup

baddog 10-14-2010 02:27 PM
I wish I could neg rep someone more than once in a row.

theking 10-14-2010 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryholeprincess (Post 17606251)
Not that I feel strongly about this but I have an answer.

Are the monstrous sums that are lent out for student and house loans meant to keep the workforce from just quitting their jobs and becoming non taxable subjects? If you have a loan, you can't just up and quit and sit around and think about what you could be doing. You live for the weekend and then you barely get relaxed before you are back at your desk again. No time to think or reflect on your situation, the situation of your country or anything else. You have to be part of the system in order to barely stay afloat. You have to take the abuse of an ignorant boss that is usual in everyday corporate life. (of course, we are all on here because we aren't part of the corporate life but...)
I am getting my Masters and the amount of money that was offered was astronomical. You could finance your rent and food. I couldn't believe it. The people that do it will never finish paying their School loans.
They will be Slaves to the Dollar.
Just my humble opinion Potter. :D
Any responsible person pays off their student loans. Those that don't are in the small minority.

Two of the closest people to me...have Masters and both payed off their student loans some years ago. One is 38 and the other is 42.

onwebcam 10-14-2010 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17607433)
I wish I could neg rep someone more than once in a row.
Your generation of blind stupidity got us where we are today.. I could give a shit less about negative rep from a toothless bitter old man. Rep away. You'll be the first one crying when the take away your pension/social security..

Barry-xlovecam 10-14-2010 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard
[W]hat kills me is the concept of a house going up in value. I bought my house five years ago. That's five years worth of wear and tear on the doors, the floors, the wires, the AC, heating, water heater, roof, blah blah blah blah blah.... My house should be going down in value. ...
Could be worse, you could be me ? I paid off the mortgage on my house a few years ago. The house has lost 35% of it's value (*the current "great recession") and now it needs all the above as you mention (scans the electrical) replaced ? worn out ? a depreciated asset. Used car attached to land. Well, as I say "Monkey needs a home anyway."

The theory was that real estate would rise in value (or at a greater rate than inflation) due to scarcity. However, real estate's values have been influenced by unforeseen economic difficulties, including but not limited to, the large number of foreclosures (caused by defaults), and after the foreclosure, the lender's liquidation of the foreclosed assets (REO's ? foreclosed houses).

Now some say that the delay of these foreclosures is bad; as until this mess is resolved, with the properties being foreclosed and liquidated (sold), delaying any potential price recovery of real estate. However, if these same properties are foreclosed and liquidated as economic times improve; there would be more buyers, better recovered monies (prices) upon the property sales, and heaven forbid, maybe some would be able to settle their debts and retain their homesteads.

Crocodile tears, greedy and unrealistic lenders and borrowers caused this as well and a corrupt government using the land and housing bubble to finance a war without reason (the Iraq War specifically.)

The cruelest taxes that you pay are not on your income ? they are the manipulation of the values of the assets that you buy with after tax dollars or any savings or investments...

You get screwed twice and say "thank you sir."

gloryholeprincess 10-14-2010 09:21 PM
I'm not advocating not paying your loans. I am advocating not getting them in the first place. :thumbsup 38 and 42 is old to be paying off student loans. All of that interest could have been going to support local economies instead of being funneled into Wall Street.
Piper
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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17607467)
Any responsible person pays off their student loans. Those that don't are in the small minority.

Two of the closest people to me...have Masters and both payed off their student loans some years ago. One is 38 and the other is 42.

potter 10-14-2010 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17606723)
the central point in this entire thread and proof that most of you ARE sheep is that you believe money has true value :eek7 ...it is the controlling aspect of the prevailing paradigm that runs our current society and if you can't step out of the box, understand the concept and free yourself from the illusion then YES, you are a slave.

slaves work for nothing, money is in debt, debt is money, money is inevitably nothing, if you work for money, then what does that make you? :2 cents:
And you're posting from the middle of the woods somewhere, where you live off the land hunting animals and have imaginary forest wifi to post on gfy from right?

Next time you're hungry, why don't you walk over to the nearest farm and tell the farmer you're going to take some of his crop -- for free. Because money has no value and he is a sheep. So he should just give you his corn for nothing.

Being on GFY is like being a fucking kid again sitting around talking with your friends stoned off your ass. "but yeahhhhhhh man... it's like...... this piece of paper is meaningless man...... it just ties us down.... the man is totally like bogus and he sucks and shit mannnnn.

Fucking idiots.

theking 10-14-2010 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryholeprincess (Post 17608508)
I'm not advocating not paying your loans. I am advocating not getting them in the first place. :thumbsup 38 and 42 is old to be paying off student loans. All of that interest could have been going to support local economies instead of being funneled into Wall Street.
Piper
Re-read what I posted. They are not paying them off...they paid them off several years ago...and without the loans they would probably not have their degrees.

theking 10-14-2010 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17608592)
And you're posting from the middle of the woods somewhere, where you live off the land hunting animals and have imaginary forest wifi to post on gfy from right?

Next time you're hungry, why don't you walk over to the nearest farm and tell the farmer you're going to take some of his crop -- for free. Because money has no value and he is a sheep. So he should just give you his corn for nothing.

Being on GFY is like being a fucking kid again sitting around talking with your friends stoned off your ass. "but yeahhhhhhh man... it's like...... this piece of paper is meaningless man...... it just ties us down.... the man is totally like bogus and he sucks and shit mannnnn.

Fucking idiots.
:thumbsup........

onwebcam 10-14-2010 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17608592)
And you're posting from the middle of the woods somewhere, where you live off the land hunting animals and have imaginary forest wifi to post on gfy from right?

Next time you're hungry, why don't you walk over to the nearest farm and tell the farmer you're going to take some of his crop -- for free. Because money has no value and he is a sheep. So he should just give you his corn for nothing.

Being on GFY is like being a fucking kid again sitting around talking with your friends stoned off your ass. "but yeahhhhhhh man... it's like...... this piece of paper is meaningless man...... it just ties us down.... the man is totally like bogus and he sucks and shit mannnnn.

Fucking idiots.
You sitting around stoned off your ass too much is your problem. It's not about the money itself. It's the people controlling the money. Turning it on and off as they please to manipulate and control society as they so choose... Running up debt on a credit card spending money faster than I can make it all the while making themselves rich..

I'll go over to the farmer and offer him a service I can provide to get my food.. I do something for him, he does something for me.. No one in the middle taking their cut so they can sit around all day long deciding how me and the farmer does business or how to live our lives.

opflix 10-14-2010 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by potter (Post 17608592)
Fucking idiots.
i'll just summise this is anger due to your inability to comprehend higher conceptual thinking :2 cents:

theking 10-15-2010 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17606723)
the central point in this entire thread and proof that most of you ARE sheep is that you believe money has true value :eek7 ...it is the controlling aspect of the prevailing paradigm that runs our current society and if you can't step out of the box, understand the concept and free yourself from the illusion then YES, you are a slave.

slaves work for nothing, money is in debt, debt is money, money is inevitably nothing, if you work for money, then what does that make you? :2 cents:
To answer your last question...it makes me a retired person...I have been totally retired for some years now (I am in my fifties) and a person that is debt free that lives as comfortably as I choose to live. If I am a slave or have ever been a slave then all I can say is "thank you massa'".

u-Bob 10-15-2010 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by woj (Post 17604421)
Having a "central bank" (the Federal Reserve) has nothing to do with fractional reserve... banks would operate in a similar way whether a "central bank" exists or not...
I an free market (a world without a central bank), the fractional reserve game wouldn't be an option for banks, because they wouldn't be able to hide the instability caused by fractional reserve banking.

Emil 10-15-2010 02:27 AM
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onwebcam 10-15-2010 05:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17608708)
i'll just summise this is anger due to your inability to comprehend higher conceptual thinking :2 cents:

:thumbsup

potter 10-15-2010 07:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17608681)
You sitting around stoned off your ass too much is your problem. It's not about the money itself. It's the people controlling the money. Turning it on and off as they please to manipulate and control society as they so choose... Running up debt on a credit card spending money faster than I can make it all the while making themselves rich..

I'll go over to the farmer and offer him a service I can provide to get my food.. I do something for him, he does something for me.. No one in the middle taking their cut so they can sit around all day long deciding how me and the farmer does business or how to live our lives.
Well thats the way the world works dude. There are some corrupt shady bastards controlling the money. If you want to change it, then go do something about or go buy an island and start your own country.

And you're not going over to any farmer. Your part of the system just like everyone else. How did you eat this morning huh? The same way the rest of us did. So shut the fuck up with your conspiracy bullshit. We all "trade" a service to the farmer, by working - by doing another service that needs to be done and we're paid for it. We need money, as a society we have to have some form of monetary item to trade for goods and services. The fact some shady people have taken control of the system doesn't change the fact we still require money to run as a civilization.

12clicks 10-15-2010 07:59 AM
here's an idea.
pay what you owe.

onwebcam 04-04-2011 05:03 PM
The next housing shock

April 3, 2011 5:00 PM

As more and more Americans face mortgage foreclosure, banks' crucial ownership documents for the properties are often unclear and are sometimes even bogus, a condition that's causing lawsuits and hampering an already weak housing market. Scott Pelley reports.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...#ixzz1IbPmfv4u

_Richard_ 04-04-2011 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18032116)
The next housing shock

April 3, 2011 5:00 PM

As more and more Americans face mortgage foreclosure, banks' crucial ownership documents for the properties are often unclear and are sometimes even bogus, a condition that's causing lawsuits and hampering an already weak housing market. Scott Pelley reports.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...#ixzz1IbPmfv4u
oh man, this is all wrapped up with title insurance i think

L-Pink 04-04-2011 06:11 PM
Here's a very good 60 Minutes piece on how the banks are committing fraud with bogus paperwork. Well worth watching.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...snt-going-away

.

Amputate Your Head 04-04-2011 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17609497)
here's an idea.
pay what you owe.
LOL, old school thinking there.

Rochard 04-04-2011 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18032116)
The next housing shock

April 3, 2011 5:00 PM

As more and more Americans face mortgage foreclosure, banks' crucial ownership documents for the properties are often unclear and are sometimes even bogus, a condition that's causing lawsuits and hampering an already weak housing market. Scott Pelley reports.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...#ixzz1IbPmfv4u
Holy shit. I just watched the entire video, it's amazing. The banks have fucked us.

What we need to do is shut down the banks. Seriously. If a bank took part in this, they should be shut down. A few people will loose billions, but lots of of people will get their houses lock stock and barrel.

L-Pink 04-04-2011 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18032328)
Holy shit. I just watched the entire video, it's amazing. The banks have fucked us.

What we need to do is shut down the banks. Seriously. If a bank took part in this, they should be shut down. A few people will loose billions, but lots of of people will get their houses lock stock and barrel.
Imagine if you or I went into court with a case based on bogus paperwork, forged bank officer signatures, fake notary stamps for those signatures .... We would not only lose the case but go to prison.

Maybe that's what some bankers need to do.

.

JBlack 04-04-2011 06:35 PM
This video goes quite nicely in here:



When asked what his greatest accomplishment had been during his two terms as President, Andrew Jackson replied "I killed the Bank."

Thomas Jefferson: If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

^He knew his shit!

ottopottomouse 04-05-2011 03:51 AM
Nutcaes quote the bible and it invalidates anything else you are trying to say.


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