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- LOL - 10-17-2010 11:10 AM

In all of my world travels, I have only seen one "multicultural" society that was truly successful.

Singapore.

Singapore is multicultural AND successful because:

1) It is effectively a corporate police state. You can get 30 lashes from a scourge just for spitting your chewing gum on the sidewalk. Al Sharpton-type instigators are sure as hell not tolerated.

2) Although their social policy doesn't allow freedom of speech, as that sort of thing doesn't work in a multicultural society, it is otherwise libertarian as fuck. There is no welfare, and taxes are low. There is no social safety net. The winners want to immigrate there to make it big, and not have the government take it all away. The losers stay the hell away, as they won't get their welfare check from the government if they don't pull their weight.

blackmonsters 10-17-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17614473)
In all seriousness, multiculturalism only works when immigrants are properly indoctrinated into the society they move to. It is also important that they have beliefs and values which, while different, do augment and assist the overall growth of the society they enter.


Face reality.

You don't want multiculturalism, you want multiColorism!

Multicolorism - Defined : When all people of all colors fully adopt White language and
culture and abandon their own.


Laymans definition : "It's ok if you are another color just as long as you act like white people".

:1orglaugh


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eroticsexxx 10-17-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17615887)
Face reality.

You don't want multiculturalism, you want multiColorism!
Multicolorism - Defined : When all people of all colors fully adopt White language and culture and abandon their own.
Laymans definition : "It's ok if you are another color just as long as you act like white people".:1orglaugh

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An opinion such as yours is expected, but it falls flat on its face when applied to the problems facing black nations in the Caribbean who have issues with rapidly increasing populations of Haitians.

Everyone is black in those scenarios, with their own Caribbean culture, but there still is a problem with immigration and descendants of those immigrants.

Nice try at making things racial though.

Paul Markham 10-17-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17615140)
Very well put and if I could leave you rep for this post, I would!

No worries. I care little about the rep thing.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton
just think "Little Italy" or "Little China" - i'm not an expert, but i have the feeling that no one cares that they exist. or parts of Miami where everyone just speaks spanish. is this a big issue? i don't know but i'd like to.

IMO it doesn't matter if they're Italian, Chinese, Jewish, Indian or what ever. They have to join in.

GatorB 10-17-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17615185)
I can't fucking stand immigrants. For starters, they insist upon bringing their backwards ass stone aged religions over here, and treating my country as though it's the same fucking slum they crawled out of. Especially after having almost wiped out most of the christian bullshit that ruled us in the West for so long. Religion needs to curl up and die, and it was doing a pretty good job of that. Now the floodgates for 3rd world immigrants are wide open, and the Muslim plague is moving right in. Look at how that's working out for the UK. Secondly, my stupid ass Canadian government gives these immigrants a tax free pass. I was fucking born here and I pay taxes, taxes which go towards paying these people to come here and setup businesses, live taxfree, and save up to ship 20 of their family members over to come and live tax-free while the native population fronts the bill. Immigration in Canada needs to be tightened the fuck up. I can go down the same road of tax complaints with the Indians too...

Unless your native American, EVERYONE in North America has ancestors that were immigrants.

blackmonsters 10-17-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17615911)
An opinion such as yours is expected, but it falls flat on its face when applied to the problems facing black nations in the Caribbean who have issues with rapidly increasing populations of Haitians.

Everyone is black in those scenarios, with their own Caribbean culture, but there still is a problem with immigration and descendants of those immigrants.

Nice try at making things racial though.

Ain't no blacks on this board bitching and whinning about it.

Thank you.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 10-17-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17616414)
Unless your native American, EVERYONE in North America has ancestors that were immigrants.

Oh this whiny assed old argument. We settled here and stole that land fair and fucking square. Now it's being stole from us, but we're too fucking pacified to do anything about. I wouldn't give a shit if people wanted to come over integrate into our society and be normal tax-paying citizens. My issue comes with the fact that they want to drag their ass backwards mentality (the one responsible for their homelands sucking ass) over here with them, and most of all my issue lays in the tax issues. Why the fuck should they get a free pass?

quiet 10-17-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17616429)
Oh this whiny assed old argument. We settled here and stole that land fair and fucking square. Now it's being stole from us, but we're too fucking pacified to do anything about. I wouldn't give a shit if people wanted to come over integrate into our society and be normal tax-paying citizens. My issue comes with the fact that they want to drag their ass backwards mentality (the one responsible for their homelands sucking ass) over here with them, and most of all my issue lays in the tax issues. Why the fuck should they get a free pass?

:thumbsup

blackmonsters 10-17-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17616429)
Oh this whiny assed old argument. We settled here and stole that land fair and fucking square. Now it's being stole from us, but we're too fucking pacified to do anything about. I wouldn't give a shit if people wanted to come over integrate into our society and be normal tax-paying citizens. My issue comes with the fact that they want to drag their ass backwards mentality (the one responsible for their homelands sucking ass) over here with them, and most of all my issue lays in the tax issues. Why the fuck should they get a free pass?

But here's the whole problem :

You live here and want others people to get the fuck out, but I live here and
wish people like you would get the fuck out.

You stir up too much shit.

Instead of everyone partying and having a great time in America people like you
have to come into the party and shout "Where all these darkies come from".
That just fucks everything up.

If you don't like the way America is going then just get the fuck out and quit bitching.

Nobody's going to leave because of your bitching, so STFU or leave bro.

quiet 10-17-2010 03:48 PM

he lives in Canada.

blackmonsters 10-17-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17616468)
he lives in Canada.

Then get the fuck outta there too.

:1orglaugh


50 whinning bitches who should get the fuck out of their country and
go fuck up some other nation with their constant whining about people
not being "white enough".

DaddyHalbucks 10-17-2010 03:50 PM

More nails in the political correctness coffin.

quiet 10-17-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17616473)
More nails in the political correctness coffin.

indeed..

GatorB 10-17-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17616429)
Oh this whiny assed old argument. We settled here and stole that land fair and fucking square. Now it's being stole from us, but we're too fucking pacified to do anything about. I wouldn't give a shit if people wanted to come over integrate into our society and be normal tax-paying citizens. My issue comes with the fact that they want to drag their ass backwards mentality (the one responsible for their homelands sucking ass) over here with them, and most of all my issue lays in the tax issues. Why the fuck should they get a free pass?

Jews like you are the reason why there are still people( NOT ME ) that think Hitler had the right idea.

cykoe6 10-17-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17615319)
No German has a problem if the French come to Germany and maintain their French culture, even though there is historical enmity between the two. Its not a question of multi-culturalism failing, its a question that the culture of recent immigrants is lazy, parasitic, criminal and violent.

Would you prefer a Norwegian or a Somalian to move in next door?

Nobody minds the Norwegians because they don't have a backwards fucked up culture and mentality.

The Western world needs to refind the confidence it had that the Enlightenment means that Western culture IS superior and more advanced than others instead of trying to pretend that other cultures are different but equal.

Thank you. :thumbsup

eroticsexxx 10-17-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17616425)
Ain't no blacks on this board bitching and whinning about it.

What color do you think I am?

Oh, I guess you didn't know. African nations are having similar difficulties. Get with the program. Immigration is a global issue that democratic nations need to be reevaluate on multiple levels.

Overload 10-17-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17613826)
:1orglaugh

It was a failure because Germany is still full of racist nationalist.

Oh the irony.

the OPPOSITE is the truth! since germany looks back on its sinister history, "we" were TOO tolerant for TOO long ... in 1984 one of the politicians already mentioned "our citizens are seriously concerned about the immigration problem" ... boy, that was 26 years ago!!! and now even our politicians feel there is serious hatred building up for treating immigrant/asylum DIFFERENT than "our OWN" citizens :2 cents:

example ... DE is TOO DUMB to refuse immigration! what? serious; there are ppl coming into germany WITHOUT ANY FUCKING DOCUMENT and claim to be in fear of political and/or bodily prosecution in their country ... guess what? THEY ARE ALLOWED TO STAY! wtf? next they are selling drugs and each time they are arrested, THEY ARE FREED THE NEXT DAY because "they dont fall under german laws and/or cannot be deported BECOZ "WE" DONT KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM! HELLO? how stupid can a country be?

another one (happened in a town near my hometown) ... a lebanese with his wife and 4 kids were given a house to live in (paid by - us taxpayers) ... right from the start the lebanese dad said "the house is TOO SMALL" - oh crap, he shudda been happy to have a roof over his head, no? when the wellfare stated "NO! it must be enuff for ya" --- guess what? THAT FUCKER BURNED DOWN THE HOUSE!!! and the bottomline ... he was given a bigger house whereas a german citizen wud have gone to jail for no less than 3 years for burning down and destroying a building ... fuck, someone bomb our politicians to HELL :mad::mad::mad:

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 10-17-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17616463)
But here's the whole problem :

You live here and want others people to get the fuck out, but I live here and
wish people like you would get the fuck out.

You stir up too much shit.

Instead of everyone partying and having a great time in America people like you
have to come into the party and shout "Where all these darkies come from".
That just fucks everything up.

If you don't like the way America is going then just get the fuck out and quit bitching.

Nobody's going to leave because of your bitching, so STFU or leave bro.

Does America giveaway ridiculous tax advantages to new immigrants like we do? Probably not. :2 cents:

HomerSimpson 10-17-2010 06:13 PM

if Germans don't do something quick very quick they will become a muslim country
(same thing applies to UK and France too)

Ron Bennett 10-17-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 17616779)
if Germans don't do something quick very quick they will become a muslim country
(same thing applies to UK and France too)

Yep, Muslims and their religious law taking over is the real fear.

While Romas / eastern Europeans / Africans aren't exactly desired in many countries, such as the U.K., France, Germany, they're more of an annoyance than a real threat - and to be fair, many of them are trying to make a living, but assimilating there is challenging, especially compared to the U.S.

The U.S. is fortunate in its Hispanic population is rapidly growing - while many don't view that as a positive, there are some good things about it in that their beliefs, by and large, are similar to that of many long time citizens, and more to the point, their numbers, especially when one factors in their reproduction rate, will far exceed Muslims immigration for many decades to come

And another plus, though again, not often viewed that way by most, are FEMA camps are built and ready to go (personally I have mixed feelings about such facilities existing) to house several hundred thousand to a few million people...

The U.S. has utilized detention camps for large numbers of citizens in the past, most notably during in WWII with the Japanese - as Camp Delta illustrated, the U.S. government will detain people, regardless of public outcry, if it appears such groups present an imminent danger to the security of the nation.

Ron

Bill8 10-17-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17616564)
THAT FUCKER BURNED DOWN THE HOUSE!!! and the bottomline ... he was given a bigger house whereas a german citizen wud have gone to jail for no less than 3 years for burning down and destroying a building ... fuck, someone bomb our politicians to HELL :mad::mad::mad:

so what's yer problem - you paraplegic? what keeps you from doing something about it?

Bill8 10-17-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 17616851)
The U.S. has utilized detention camps for large numbers of citizens in the past, most notably during in WWII with the Japanese - as Camp Delta illustrated, the U.S. government will detain people, regardless of public outcry, if it appears such groups present an imminent danger to the security of the nation.

Ron

so, in this case you believe in Big Government, and you want government to protect you from all them mud people?

sounds fairly typical. we all want Big Government to protect us from the boogeyman.

Bill8 10-17-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17616562)
Immigration is a global issue that democratic nations need to be reevaluate on multiple levels.

and do what about it?

one has to pity europe, land bridge to north africa and all.

moeloubani 10-17-2010 07:22 PM

Web definitions for racism
the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races

so only white people are ok? sounds a lot like what hitler wanted to do to me, that's what you people really believe? that's sad especially in 2010

Overload 10-17-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17616859)
so what's yer problem - you paraplegic? what keeps you from doing something about it?

move over to germany and open yer mouth, speaking freely about immigrants ... and soon you will be blamed as NAZI :warning

topnotch, standup guy 10-17-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17616865)
so, in this case you believe in Big Government, and you want government to protect you from all them mud people?

sounds fairly typical. we all want Big Government to protect us from the boogeyman.

The day the first "mud person" straps a bomb to his or herself and does the suicide bomber thing, those detention camps will fill up faster than you can say "what the fuck".

And rightly so.

Let's just hope that it never comes to that.
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Ron Bennett 10-17-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17616865)
so, in this case you believe in Big Government, and you want government to protect you from all them mud people?

sounds fairly typical. we all want Big Government to protect us from the boogeyman.

I don't want the government to get involved, but there may be no viable alternative.

What would you do if a large group of people moved into your neighborhood and sought to impose their religious beliefs and laws on you? Now imagine that occurring on a statewide or even regional scale - only the government has the resources to stop / prevent that.

Few people, talking in the U.S., realize how dangerous much of the world is - and serious the threats out there really are...

The 911 terror attacks was a prime example of terror that exists out there waiting to pounce. And that wasn't the first large-scale attempt either - there had been numerous others, such as coordinated attacks on the tunnels in NYC, that fortunately were detected and stopped by government authorities...

Citizens alone don't have the resources to stop most organized terror attacks, let alone prevent them through detection, and in worse case scenarios, preemptive action, such as detention camps.

One of the most basic functions of government is security - and the U.S. government is very aggressive in that regard, often to a fault, but it beats the alternative of allowing large-scale terror attacks go unchallenged.

Ron

eroticsexxx 10-17-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17616890)
so only white people are ok? sounds a lot like what hitler wanted to do to me, that's what you people really believe? that's sad especially in 2010

Actually no, that's your interpretation of what was said thus far.

For the record, I'm black and I can understand from a Caribbean and African perspective that issues with immigrants often have little to do with their color and more to do with cultural norms, belief systems and the false sense of entitlement that some immigrants possess.

Adding color into the mix is simply a way to complicate the matter or is used by the more liberal-minded as a way to shut down the conversation. No one wants to be branded as a racist, so the minute that race comes up in regards to immigration many people simply shut up and swallow their concerns.

We have to get past that. Global immigration is a growing challenge for many nations. It is quite ironic that people who move to another country tend to be more outspoken in that foreign country than they ever would be back in their home state.

I always wonder why didn't they use that same voice to make their life better in the country they originally came from.

uglyduckling 10-17-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17615319)
No German has a problem if the French come to Germany and maintain their French culture, even though there is historical enmity between the two. Its not a question of multi-culturalism failing, its a question that the culture of recent immigrants is lazy, parasitic, criminal and violent.

Would you prefer a Norwegian or a Somalian to move in next door?

Nobody minds the Norwegians because they don't have a backwards fucked up culture and mentality.

The Western world needs to refind the confidence it had that the Enlightenment means that Western culture IS superior and more advanced than others instead of trying to pretend that other cultures are different but equal.


they fucking left their country because they can't live under the oppressive
rule, yet they want to convert their new country to the very same.

uglyduckling 10-17-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17617014)
Actually no, that's your interpretation of what was said thus far.

For the record, I'm black and I can understand from a Caribbean and African perspective that issues with immigrants often have little to do with their color and more to do with cultural norms, belief systems and the false sense of entitlement that some immigrants possess.

Adding color into the mix is simply a way to complicate the matter or is used by the more liberal-minded as a way to shut down the conversation. No one wants to be branded as a racist, so the minute that race comes up in regards to immigration many people simply shut up and swallow their concerns.

We have to get past that. Global immigration is a growing challenge for many nations. It is quite ironic that people who move to another country tend to be more outspoken in that foreign country than they ever would be back in their home state.

I always wonder why didn't they use that same voice to make their life better in the country they originally came from.



you said it as in being outspoken in their newly adopted country, they want to convert it to the very same oppressive rule they whined about and ran away from....why?...

blackmonsters 10-17-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by uglyduckling (Post 17617110)
they fucking left their country because they can't live under the oppressive
rule, yet they want to convert their new country to the very same.

Sounds like your talking about white Americans.


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