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C-Luv 10-18-2010 11:51 AM

That's great! I think I am going to drive this year and check out the new bridge from AZ to Vegas. Anybody from AZ want to carpool?

Nathan 10-18-2010 12:09 PM

Panos, I was hoping you would do this! Sounds awesome... Only right way to fix the show I think!

$tandaman 10-18-2010 12:23 PM

Looking good Panos!

J$tyle$ 10-18-2010 12:44 PM

PANOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice to see this change in direction.

I love that we're going back to the Venetian. We can't re-create the past, but I have tons of fond memories - and it will be great to create some new ones!

Looking forward to seeing you again, my friend - it's been way too long.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

SiMpLe 10-18-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous (Post 17617871)
You get more done at the circle bar then you ever did inside internext and the price to be at the circle bar is much much less :)

Thats my booth - I have have dibs on it already :upsidedow

alias 10-18-2010 12:47 PM

Looking good, making moves.

Mickey_ 10-18-2010 02:15 PM

Looking forward to it, I am confident you will organize an event that is the right mix of business and pleasure. :thumbsup
More 'forced networking' events will result in more satisfied business-minded folks.

bobbyjuly 10-18-2010 05:11 PM

A little too late i think. How about a refund on bad shows in 2010.

You pay money for something good. You can afford it or not is a personal a question.

A bad show is a bad show. free or paid entry doesnt make much different.

lets see what is lined up as a change and who is attending.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanadu (Post 17617696)
Hi everybody!

We have been working hard to present a new format for the Internext Vegas 2011 and we are finally finished :)

I believe the events in the business need a radical change, the decline has been obvious the last years all over the board, making the events less and less attractive for people to attend. I think the main reasons for this were:

1.Prices.

With the current economy less and less people could afford the higher and higher costs of attending an event. Especially for webmasters and small companies this has been a serious issue.

2.Not so many fresh people to network with.

If you go and there are the same people every time, that you have on icq/skype etc already, what is really the point of keep going?

3.Less and less networking acitivities.

Shows had the bad habit of trying to make $ from parties,dinners and other networking activities instead of seeing that those are porbably the most important elements of a successfull event. Bringing people together and helping them network, its the key. With sponsor money becoming less the last years, events/opportunities for networking started to disappear, affecting the experience of the shows more and more....

So the format of the event will be totally different that last year, in order to adress the above issues.

- Internext goes back to the Venecian/Palazzo hotel. I think Palms was not an ideal place for doing business and the Venecian is just in front of the AEE expo and right next to the Wynn(Aff.Summit), so its much easier for people to move around. Time is money, especially during an event.

-Entrance will be FREE for all business people that will register online. There will be a fee for the ones that choose to register onsite to cover the logistics(under 100$ though), so I suggest you register online fast! We will screen the participants and make sure that only business people will be accepted.

I think this is a huge step. We have been visiting many mainstream shows lately, where this is more and more the standard of the big successfull events and given the situation of our industry,where small webmasters and companies have it much more difficult now, is something that shows have to consider and adapt. Its the minimum we can do to support the industry.


-We made a deal with Aff.summit and the ones registered in Internext will get a 10% discount on the price of their Aff.Summit badge. I know many people of our business attend this event, so I think its a nice plus. Having the 2 events next to each other makes it also easier for mainstream people to come and network with us as well. New people means new business.

-Attendees of the B2B section of AEE, will have free entrance into Internext. Has been a complaint for years that people had to register 2 times, pay double etc. I agree that was something that didnt make sense. Now will be much easier.

-Main focus will be on networking. We plan a lot of speed networking and ice breaker sessions during the event, not just a 2 hours event but more as a constant happening. I think this is the most important element during any show and the primary reason for someone to attend. I will personally force people to network :)

-New business opportunities will be also on the forefront. Seminars and workshops will be targeted on this and having the Aff. Summit next door helps us bring some really good mainstream speakers as well. There is more and more crossover and many ways to make more $ online. Monetizing european traffic and the mobile market will also be well presented.

-Regarding sponsorships, there will be much less available, in order to give back real value to the sponsors. I used to run an aff.program in the past and sponsor heavily most of the events of the industry and I think that its a fair statement that many sponsorship packages in the events were a rip off... Its much better to keep them limited than offering stupid things nobody remembers afterwards. This way sponsors will be much happier and will get much more value for their $.

-We also want to make it affordable to all companies to have a presense during the event without spending a fortune. Thats why in the Meet Market the tables will be just 500$ making it easy for most companies to participate and brand themselves.
Many people of the aff.summit will attend the meet market and this year will be much bigger in size and duration, will free lunch and a lot fo freebies. As said above, networking is the main focus.


From our side we will do our best, but it always takes 2 to tango. Wish all participants had business cards on them and come wearing a branded t-shirt, making networking even easier for everybody.

We cannot change the past, but for sure we can change the present and try to affect the future. I will be happy to hear suggestions and ideas on how make the event even better. I think we are on a good way to make it a much more productive and a more fair activity for all the participants from now on.

Sorry for the huge post, I can talk hours for it lol. I am sure I have forgotten many things so feel free to to ask or contact me.


Adam_M 10-18-2010 05:48 PM

Looks like a fresh new start for Internext and with the AS on the same time I will be attending this show for sure.

Imortyl Pussycat 10-18-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanadu (Post 17617927)
If there is something you would like to see happening feel free to suggest. Will do my best!

i think if you dance on the bar in your underwear it will add much value and delight to us all *mwuah*

this post is awesome sweetheart and you are going in the right direction. i look forward to seeing everyone there!

oscer 10-18-2010 06:47 PM

I think this could be a very good thing

bobbyjuly 10-18-2010 07:21 PM

Seen it on the way to Grand Canyon. It looks pretty cool from 5K feet above!

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 17618877)
That's great! I think I am going to drive this year and check out the new bridge from AZ to Vegas. Anybody from AZ want to carpool?


DWB 10-18-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17617867)
The approach AVN is taking with this is refreshing. Last year trying to force feed everyone that the shows were great and it was just our perception that was off was some rough stuff. Good to see you guys step up to the plate, admit the format was no longer working and try to make some changes to get things turned around. Kudos and best of luck, sounds good so far.

They don't have a choice but to FINALLY get the stick out of their ass and change. :2 cents: Another year of a shit Vegas shows and it would be curtains for them.

Having said that, good luck. Hope it's a good one for all. :thumbsup

sicone 10-18-2010 08:31 PM

What will determine if the person attending is a 'business person'?

Robbie 10-19-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 17620590)
What will determine if the person attending is a 'business person'?

That would seem to me to be one of the easiest things to do. This is a pretty small community as far as the people in it. If a person is really in the business it would be fairly easy to prove that. If not...then maybe that person just THINKS they are in the porn biz. Time to wake up to reality.

xanadu 10-19-2010 05:21 AM

Thanks for the amazing feedback everyone. Really apreciate it and I am happy to see that the new format is wellcome from most of you.

I take notice of the negative comments as well, most are very valid and will do our best to adress them one by one. Not easy to satisfy everybody, but I will try. I am really excited and hope to see many old friends again :)

Exo-Geoffrey 10-19-2010 06:29 AM

Good to know, thank you Panos.

Theo 10-19-2010 06:39 AM

Panos Panos Panos lol

Lukke 10-26-2010 03:08 PM

When the form to register will be opened?

RycEric 10-26-2010 03:14 PM

same time as the CES by chance?

looky_lou 10-27-2010 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 17643301)
same time as the CES by chance?

Did you read the thread? Obviously not :winkwink:

DamianJ 10-27-2010 02:19 AM

Well, this has persuaded me to make the trip from England.

I'll organise another Magic Castle trip in LA afterwards for anyone interested. Well, not anyone. Anyone nice. :)

Lukke 11-01-2010 06:57 AM

Registration form still not opened?

Redrob 11-01-2010 08:46 AM

Glad to see the change. Internext Hollywood looked rather lightly attended compared to previous events. But, on the bright side, I had some excellent Cuban food.

RyuLion 11-01-2010 08:49 AM

Very smart move! See you guys there!

RyuLion 11-01-2010 08:55 AM

Hey man, I noticed there's currently no link to the registration at internext-expo.com
vs. here:
http://show.adultentertainmentexpo.com/
Direct link:
https://www.showreg.net/AEE1101S/
What's the code for free registration?

p.s.
AEE+AVN AWARDS+INTERNEXT+AFFILIATE SUMMIT = Success
:)

JayDeeZee 11-01-2010 09:15 AM

sounds awesome! I can't wait to see the new format

JFK 11-01-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukke (Post 17658071)
Registration form still not opened?

the line up forms to the left:winkwink:

Tasty1 11-01-2010 10:14 AM

How is it in Florida with the oil spill? I want to combine Vegas with Miami/Florida Keys.

RyuLion 11-01-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 17658757)
How is it in Florida with the oil spill? I want to combine Vegas with Miami/Florida Keys.

Nothing to worry about here...
Found this though..
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/deepwaterhorizon/health.htm
Map:
http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/sf/deepwat...Map_102210.pdf

2MuchMark 11-01-2010 11:29 AM

I like this.

Tasty1 11-01-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 17659025)

Thanks. i read about some ships taht detected more oil.
Maybe booking last minute is better.

baddog 11-01-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17644453)
I'll organise another Magic Castle trip in LA afterwards for anyone interested. Well, not anyone. Anyone nice. :)

I can be nice for a couple hours if need be.

traumatics 11-01-2010 06:24 PM

good news!

Loch 11-01-2010 06:32 PM

Finally you guys did something huh :)
Something like this would actually potentially get me going this year...business or not it could bring a lot of new people in.

Being free im not sure will be the huge motivator here as well it is such a tiny part of the overall show spendings, but the fact that you focus on networking and finally realize that just having the same bunch of people in a room stopped working in 2006 is great!

fatfoo 11-01-2010 07:23 PM

More networking activities are better.

Redrob 11-01-2010 07:28 PM

I got a gold pass to the ASW, a VIBE, and a free pass to CES. I plan on learning some new tricks and finding a few new treats.

RyuLion 11-02-2010 01:33 PM

bump for answers.. :)

Lukke 11-10-2010 06:26 AM

Guys, how can I register to this show? Is registration form opened already? There is nothing on internext-expo.com site...

Barefootsies 11-10-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17620973)
That would seem to me to be one of the easiest things to do. This is a pretty small community as far as the people in it. If a person is really in the business it would be fairly easy to prove that. If not...then maybe that person just THINKS they are in the porn biz. Time to wake up to reality.


DamianJ 11-10-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17660075)
I can be nice for a couple hours if need be.

Your name will be on the list. And you will be getting in.

:)

baddog 11-10-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17687915)
Your name will be on the list. And you will be getting in.

:)

woohoo - I have always enjoyed that place. Thank you.

TheLegacy 11-10-2010 08:19 AM

Awesome news AVN and Panos - I've been a long time supporter of Internext and glad to see that you're beginning to think like and for the webmasters. Great changes ahead

Chris 11-10-2010 08:47 AM

I'll be in vegas the 7th-10th already booked hotel and flight

mpahlca 11-10-2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17617804)
i still won't attend.

Can we not attend together, then not go to circle bar, and not talk about tubes?

RyuLion 11-10-2010 01:08 PM

Hello??????

notime 11-10-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanadu (Post 17621416)
Thanks for the amazing feedback everyone. Really apreciate it and I am happy to see that the new format is wellcome from most of you.

Utrecht inspired you I see :thumbsup
Good :2 cents:

Tasty1 11-10-2010 02:22 PM

I booked my flights, 200 euro more expensive than last year. The crisis was good for cheap tickets. Luckily internext is free :)

This time i start Christmas in Miami, Bahamas, Key West and than heading to Vegas the 5th. Is there is a webmaster party or something special around Miami on new years eve?

Tasty1 11-10-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 17689037)
Utrecht inspired you I see :thumbsup
Good :2 cents:

Let's hope he is also inspired by the EuroWebtainment party in Berlin, the xxxmasparty in Edam and the Little Budha party in Amsterdam. Than there will be a lot of free beer from 19:00 - 4:00. :)

Theo 11-10-2010 10:58 PM

www.internext-expo.com is up and registration is now open :)


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