LimeWire Pays RIAA $105 Million, Artists Get Nothing
 

got to love an industry that justify their lawsuit based on the harm it does the artist and then just pockets the money themselves.

http://torrentfreak.com/limewire-pay...othing-110513/

Dear Jesus,

I rarely ask you for favors... but do you think just this once you could do me a solid?

Please give gideongallery a rare and untreatable form of ass cancer.

Thanks Jesus!

Your humble servant,

Gambrinus

You forgot to make this part of your quote large: money is destined for reinvestment

I hope that clears up the stupidity.

Well that's fine and dandy.... but at what point does it stop going to lawyers and executives and actually go to people who created the music?

I'm sure it helps them in other ways.... Less piracy, for sure counterfeited piracy, is a good thing, even the threat alone stops some people. The benefits don't have to be a paycheck directly back, they can happen in many various ways.

When the musicians fund the lawsuit, maybe?

;-)

was reading somewhere that all those 'compilation albums' have huge backlogs of royalties to be paid to artists.. lol

with what money

they give up 90% right off the top and then have to pay for all the production cost out of their 10%.

Yeah, with what money.... true.


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Poor Alan Jackson
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Not even sure how Lada Gaga got the Lambo and House being broke.
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That's sort of like saying all basketball players make Kobe Bryant money.

Not all artists take part... but once you see the studio list, you'll quickly realize these aren't bar singer artists being repped by the riaa.

http://www.riaa.com/aboutus.php?cont...boutus_members

Artists should go on strike

you should take a look at that list again

none of the ARTIST you are talking about are on that list.

Relax skippy; it was a joke.

Were I to respond seriously, it would look like this:

Artists aren't the only ones who have a right to exploit their skills and efforts for financial gain. Lawyers get paid the way they do because they have highly specialized skills.

When you choose to litigate, typically that's the reality you face: your lawyers are going to charge their hourly rate, and if the lawsuit is successful and damages eventually come along, they are going to take their cut of those.

As to record label executives/companies, they are in business to make money. As I understand it, that's the primary raison d' etre of damn near every business in existence. By and large, entrepreneurs are not altruists, nor are they philanthropists. I'm sure most record executives don't particularly care about the wellbeing of the artists on their label, and I'm equally sure that the artists don't give too much of a shit about the wellbeing of the "suits" who they sign with.

When you choose to a record contract, typically that's the reality you face: the record company is going to take its cut, and that cut isn't going to be based on what's "fair," it is going to be based on what they can get you to agree to.

Artists aren't forced to sign a contract with a record label. It is a choice they make, a choice largely informed by a desire to make money themselves, and not a function of some fanciful pursuit of artistic greatness. You can pursue artistic greatness on your own, after all, without ever earning a penny.

IMO, it is senseless for artists (or fans) to rail against the greed of record executives. I'm not saying they are wrong to assert that there's greed being exhibited, it's just that complaining about the greed of a businessman and expecting that to shame the businessman in question into being more generous is like complaining about a vulture's taste for carrion and expecting the vulture to stop eating dead things because you've pointed out how distasteful his appetites are. ;-)

Bottom line: for artists that don't like the way it is, there's a simple solution: don't sign a record contract.

There's also a slightly more complicated solution: start your own label.

(Hey don't laugh -- it seemed to work out pretty well for Frank Zappa....)

Cool, nobody said artists were on the list, we said studios.. and I do see Interscope, Lyric Street, and Arista on that list.

Thoughts that come to mind...

Limewire is still around?

--and they have $105 million dollars?

Why would you care ???

Don't you download your entertainment for free under the guise of Time shifting?

Simple solution for artists, sign or don't sign. Not all artists get the same deal either, there are negotiations....simply broad sweeping a figure and applying it to every artist does not make it fact.

Also, you can't forget RIAA case costs.

if your going to keep all the money

then don't make the arguement to the jury about how much it damages the ARTIST

make the arguement about how it damages your record company.

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gideongallery to coming to explain that "child f*ck" is all about fair use, time shifting and legitimately using torrents as a vcr

you muck raking scumbag realize that keyword term you bitching about was used to represent a news story about pentagon employees buying child pornography


http://bankofamericasuck.com/tag/child-fuck

You're delusional if you think CP terms aren't common torrent searches. Well, scratch that... it's quite clear and widely agreed that you're delusional anyway.

:thumbsup

CP is always a crime but fair use is never CP

No one forces artists to sign with the labels.

Now that we know how evil those RIAA dudes are, let us all open up member areas and let gideons of the world dl our stuff for free. Obviously there's no reason to fight piracy anymore because we lost our high moral grounds after this story has seen light.

Gideon if they were doing nothing wrong why did they pay up?

searched term yes

every search engine has that problem even google

commonly searched enough that it appears in the top 25 hell no

that the point you misrepresented a search for bit torrent distributed documentary/propaganda film about the "pentagon covering up a cp ring within their walls" as an actual cp search

never said they did nothing wrong, i said the record companies are scum for arguing how much they damaged the ARTIST in the court case, and then deliberately damaged the artist themselves by keeping 100% of the money.

Really? Someone created a documentary and then named it "child f*ck"? Or people just inherently understood that they need to go to a torrent site to find a fox news story about pentagon officials and search using the phrase "child f*ck"? Your proof of that is an embedded youtube video on a fake website attacking bank of america? Hahaha.

I'm getting increasingly curious to know the background on your mental problems. I admit, it's a little intriguing at this point.

Yes, very true:thumbsup

operation child fuck: the pentagon's secret plan to cover up a child pornography ring within it walls.

i said it was a propaganda film

excpet those labels are using their current monopoly control to destroy any alternative distribution method to their own.

you currently have two choices sign with a label

or

fail

that not a choice at all.

No, bar singers actually make tips. :1orglaugh

Musicians need better representation, like cam girls and the tip system. And I mean that, sincerely. :pimp

And I say that because here in New Orleans, there are working musicians who make hundreds of bucks a week, at least. Talented ones clean up if they aren't trainwrecks. But record deals? nah... they sell their own cd's and make tips, % of drink sales, that's how you do it and live as a musician making a decent living. These dreams you're the next Led Zepplin or Nirvana are dead like Kurt. LOL

I'm pretty sure that musicians are aware of their options (which are not as simple as you describe).

You don't know the RIAA costs for their cases and how their own accounts need balancing in order to maintain actions.

And its quite obvious that you don't support entertainment industries........So, It still begs the question ... "why do you even care?"

Troll much ?

i don't support industry that try and quash fair use under the guise of fighting piracy

the industries that are more interested in extending/keeping their monopoly rather then let technlogy grow

87% of the computer advancements you have seen in the last 20 years can be traced back to the commercialization of solid state disk by diamond rio mp3 player.


solid state disk commodization improved memory, cpu , hard drives, etc

how much technology are we going to be forced to go without because the record companies want to kill the technology that threatens their control over the artists.

WOW! This is a sudden change. It wasn't too long ago that you were ranting and raving about how with Youtube, Facebook, Myspace (among other social media) and torrents a person could self-release their music and make more money than they could singing with a record label. Now all of a sudden you are saying it is labels or fail.

What happened to you beloved Maria Digby? Or about your golden boy Johnathon Coultron? You did point out that Sick Puppy got 40 million views on their YouTube video without the aid of a record label. Suddenly they are all failures?

You have made exhaustive arguments on how musicians and have great success outside the major label system using your own methods, methods you helped use to get a band signed and make more money than they did when they released a record with that label (or so you claim) and now all of a sudden you seem to no longer agree with yourself. What gives? New meds?

And the winner is;


The Attorneys

and what exactly about the statement


if record companies force torrent sites and tube sites to keyword filter song titles (see isohunt case) then cover songs would be squashed too

good bye marie digby


good bye ever artist which uses covers to find an audience.

the success i am talking about is dependent in part to having those technologies allowed to operate uncensored.

and every example i gave you was dependent on those technologies remaining uncensored.

the record industry is based on paying artists 1% of record sales LOL