It's easy to shoot great porn today.
 

If you have a clue.

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1596158837

OK this is a little bit slow. It's aimed I feel at a female/couples market. Yet it shows real passion, real emotions and no one insulting or degrading their partner or sex.

How hard is it to shoot this today?

Not hard at all. Tell the models what you need them to do. You can adjust it to suit your niche and style. Then put the camera on a mono pod to steady it and press record. Models who start to do it wrong can be stopped and told again how it's to be done. Those who refuse are told to fuck off without any money.

No one spits on genitalia, no one says any stupid phrases that only get said in porn films. Models have a great time, lots of fun and orgasms. Max to shoot in a day with couples is 2, 3 with solo girl.

So why do people shoot the same cloned fake crap that's everywhere?

Waiting for answers. The only one I can think of is they're selling to 18 year old virgins who never had sex. Because most porn today is nothing like real sex.

I agree with you for once. Mark it on the calendar. Most porn sucks, fact.

Love this content.

I'm a fan of this one.

http://www.youporn.com/watch/650707/...nds-boyfriend/

No idea what it would cost to shoot, have to ask the expert.

I see so much content that has models faking their way through a scene or just putting on a crap or even strange performance and wonder why?

Anyone who wants to shoot good content need only look at the mainstream sex scenes on www.mrskin.com then alter them to include real sex, genitalia, fucking what ever. Tell the models to get on with it so you can see/film it and press record.

Needs a bit of skill to get lighting, angles, framing right. But that's the easy part. Contrary to what Cherry thinks, shooting porn is about making models work, not cameras.

A high quality image of low quality porn = low quality porn.
A low quality image of high quality porn = high quality porn.

Shut the fuck up already! 99% of people that put on a porno do so to watch people FUCK. Only creepy weirdos like you spend time analyzing the psyche of a model as she's getting nailed. WTF is wrong with you?

You'd be wrong there bud. I make money with webcams only because most webmasters are too stupid to promote them effectively. I thank you all for that though. :1orglaugh

An iPhone image of a sexy girl = money out of my ass. :upsidedow

Do you really fucking sit there, dick in hand, watching porn... only to think, "Oh no, poor Jenna... I can really tell something is bothering her. I wonder if it's a family issue... WELP... I'm flaccid now... better put this bad-boy away"

I think this one is better:
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/942709/

No, I just find some non boring porn before I get started. (Like most of the civilized world.)

That is one of the most boring porn flicks ever. My peewee didn't even tingle from it.

Boring porn is very easy to shoot, what you showed is very boring porn. This is why you like it though, it's a reflection of your shoots.

It's funny that you don't get the fantasy of porn, what the dirty guy actually likes.

There are kinks of all kinds but porn producers vastly overestimate the number of people that want to watch guys hocking loogies into a girls pussy / mouth. :2 cents:

Here we go again ...

Other than very hardcore porn - which anything kinda goes.... and besides swapping of course, I really don't recall spitting as being a main thing that happens in pornos.

UK Porn production in the 60s, was mostly done in tiny dingy flats on a shoe string budget and very much in the way I described. They moved location all the time, it was kept very secret and even with the pay offs to the London Vice Squad it was still very low key. Even though the retail sales of a Soho Porn Shop were good and generated enough money to interest criminals. The lack of supply and selection resulted in a pretty bad product. Nothing to compare with the product of the late 1980s and 1990s, which were in my opinion the best years for those in porn. Because of the huge demand and the number of suppliers.

Today the demand is bigger, yet the supply is so big, the result is little is left per supplier. Without the factor of free porn. The cake is bigger, yet not big enough to satisfy all the new people feeding off it. Anyway back to 1960s.

color climax magazineUK Porn production in the 60s all changed in the late 60s. Suddenly Color Climax magazines burst onto the scenes. they were awesome for their day, properly shot, printed and bound together in a real magazine. Every month a new one came out and the smugglers had a problem keeping up with demand. No sooner had a new one hit the shops, it was sold out in a matter of days and then everyone had to wait for the next smuggled load to arrive. I believe mostly in the backs on lorries coming across on ferries. This information was not for us to know. We were merely there to sell them. Every so often I was told by Tom to go grab a cab, go to an address which often changed, pick up a box and bring it to the warehouse. A little basement flat where the stocks were held. And sometimes went there to warehouse, well grotty basement flat if you prefer, and bring back some magazines.

Color climax films

Then films hit the shops. And my days as a UK porn stud were done. Or so I thought. The production of home grown UK porn plummeted. Why bother when those lovely guys over at Color Climax were doing such a great job? No more being paid to fuck in front of a camera in an often freezing cold or baking hot grotty location by an idiot with a camera and a girl who had as much life in her as a cadaver. On the down side no more getting 2 weeks wages for half a days work. Now that really hurt. Still had a few live shows. but the money earned from porn production was missed more than the free sex. Much more. Now we had properly produced and duplicated films from people who had a clue. And it was my job to review them all and get paid for it, so not so bad after all.

Business was booming. Buyers would get a magazine or film one month, keep it for a week or month or many would return them and get a 50% return against their next purchase. So the shop bought once and sold it over and over again. Probably why there was ahuge criminal element involved in the Soho Porn Shop business.

Now I look back on it, with 4 decades in porn, I wonder what my thoughts were then. I never thought of what I was doing as a huge crime. I was merely involved in the organisation. Tom occasionally told me to get out of the shop after a call or when I went in told me to get out. I knew this to mean the heat was coming down and it was best for me to make myself scarce. Never thought of the consequences. As a 16-18 year old, you never do. You’re just having a bit of fun. As for the UK laws on porn, well today they are absurd to the point of idiocy. To sell a porn movie porn shop has to be licensed, which costs money. To sell a porn film legally in the UK it has to be certificated by the BBFC handling fees. Handling fee £75 per submission plus £6.00 per minute for full length of work. Which means a 90 minute DVD costs £615 just to license one DVD with 5 scenes.

Add the production costs or license costs for overseas produced movies the cost is a lot compared with the sales of a DVD. It’s to “control” the flood of porn into the UK. Which means those that shaped and continue to uphold this law have no clue of what the Internet is. Even though they use it themselves to list laws and put up information. And anyone can go online and access what porn they like or open a site and publish what porn they like. Well within certain boundaries.

porn today has to have people spitting on the girl, play slapping her and calling her whore.

producers who do that stuff, enjoy degradation themselves, most viewers dont want that stuff in pron, i know i dont.

lol

I see it often without looking for it. Anyhow, there is a gigantic niche out there for "realistic" porn. Most of the stuff we have these days started out as niche because nobody else was doing it, it converted well because nobody else was doing it, then they mass produced it.

I don't like the spitting but I also don't like the standard "[Insert obviously doing this for money porn star here] getting fucked" porn either.

Exactly. I wish we had some internal numbers on how much the big webcam sites made while most were happy with their (terrible in my opinion) conversions on regular old porn. I think most would shit if iFriends for instance opened their books and showed us just how many billions that segment of the market made on real people doing dirty things. It would dwarf the numbers for paysites in the same time period.

Degradation sells, just not as much as you would be led to believe by looking at how many of those sites are available.

It's something that happens subliminally and changes the way people feel about a scene. He's just itemizing it

That's what she said.

Then they can watch anything on a free tube site and maybe you can sell 1,000 clicks for $2.

In the real world where people want to sign up to a specific theme, niche or style of porn they do think, empathise and link to the performers.

What is wrong with me?

I think porn is about more than flesh.

Spot on. Can you imagine what a girl would do if you spoke to her like guys speak to porn stars, or spat on her pussy. Or she did that to you?

Are we aiming at 15 year old boys or guys who never had sex?

There's always been two types of porn consumers. Those who can get off on generally anything and those with more refined tastes. Not refined in terms of better class. Both use to have to buy to get porn. Today the less refined ones can get it for free.

Those want to see something that's real for them. Rings a bell in their memory or fantasies. It has to be something they can link to. Next show in Vegas take a walk to the porn DVD show and see the guys lining up to get an autograph of a porn star. These are not people who will "knock one out" to any piece of flesh and our prime market.

Tical is clearly clueless and probably just shoves clicks around. Here's what he shold of said.

HELL YES I DO!!!

If you can do this and get a member to need to see her next scene. you have a sign up or a retained member. If you have a guy who is like Tical and can get off to pretty much anything so long as it's some meat. You're lucky to get him to click the banner to go look at the site.

I guess Paul really has me on ignore. :1orglaugh

jesus, if there's one thing the Internet proved when it comes to people and porn is that people have an incredibly wide range of tastes and fetishes and styles of porn that turns them on. for one guy it's the rough nasty spitting slapping type of sex scene, for another guy it's the soft intimate type of scene Paul posted and X-Art produces, some like homemade amateur content, others like professionally produced porn like Andrew Blake, Brazzers, Twistys, etc

i've made 14 sales since last night on a friggin' zip set of a girl in a tiny bikini - NO NUDITY! there are even guys out there who will pay for that because that's what turns them on.

i've seen some really hot rough sex videos - nothing new under the sun, there have always been women that enjoy that role in sex, it's consensual and they dig it. and as more young girls are exposed to that kind of porn you're getting more girls who want it rough and nasty.

True. It's not the point I'm making.

It's the real passion of the scene that's important.

What ever the incredibly wide range of tastes and fetishes are it has to be done with feelings that look real. Not models going through the motion doing what they've done in all their scenes.

All scenes from Amateur to home made, from real rough sex to soft core like the sample, need to be done with passion. Today I get the impression with so much porn, is churned out by robots.

Please don't link an artist like Andrew Blake with Brazzers and Twistys.

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Oh I know we have a niche for realistic porn, but that is what it is, a niche. If you're buying porn and you notice they split when you don't like that, you wont buy from them - you will however buy from someone else. The issue isn't that the porn video had spit, has no passion, has talking, was realistic or not, or nobody spoke English, etc... the issue is it didn't match the persons desires/niche.

PM thinks porn should be done a particular way or a few ways.... when the reality is, the mass variety in every aspect, is exactly what makes porn so kick ass. If even a few people like totally amateur, cell phone shot, home-made porn, of ugly fat fucks... then that's exactly what the Internet needs, because someone is buying it.

:thumbsup , i was reading... till i saw this. totally agree

I know. Stupid subject, talking about what porn consumers like. :1orglaugh

We should be talking about important stuff, like giving away more free porn. Now that will make everything good again. :upsidedow

this :2 cents:

This scene did not do it for me at all.

you can't be serious.

this is exactly what he want you to believe...that he is serious

goal is : 3+ thread pages winnaa :1orglaugh
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i dont get this discussion...

like music, fashion, cars etc. the peoples taste for porn changes as well. what's good today, sucks tomorrow.

for years we tried to improve our skills, now i send my assistant who has no clue about photography to shoot with his cell phone cam and my clients say it's great content

so who gives a shit?

exactly. nothing compares to work of porn genius like this:

http://xhamster.com/movies/265560/pa...threesome.html

just don't make porn as great as this any more.

ariel is one of the hottest and most popular girls in that scene. guarantee that video is making them money.

but what do they know? they should have taken advice from an insane old illiterate man living on benefits.

ehh old classic with very very very low budget