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glamourmodels 11-23-2011 05:17 AM

Report: Ron Paul leads the field in Iowa poll
 
A poll commissioned by Revolution PAC, a super PAC supporting Texas Rep. Ron Paul?s candidacy for president, shows that Paul is in first place in Iowa.

Preliminary results posted on the PAC?s website show Paul leading with 25-percent support from Republicans, independents and disaffected Democrats. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich scored at 21 percent and businessman Herman Cain at 20 percent.

Among Republicans only, the poll shows Paul and Cain tied at 22 percent, followed by Gingrich at 21 percent. The full results will be released Wednesday, but will not include opinions sampled after Tuesday night?s CNN foreign policy debate in Washington, D.C.

Earlier this month, two Iowa polls found Paul in second place. A Bloomberg poll found Paul in a statistical four-way tie for first place, at 19 percent, and an Iowa State University poll found him trailing only Cain, at 20.4 percent.

Political observers have suggested Paul could win in Iowa as a result of socially conservative voters being split between several candidates.

The poll was conducted by TeleResearch, with a sample size of 2,900 and a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points. A total of 700 likely Republican caucus-goers were included in the sample.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/22/re...-in-iowa-poll/

Coup 11-23-2011 05:21 AM


porno jew 11-23-2011 05:25 AM

ron paul has been a professional politician his whole life. he has never run a real business like herman cain. herman cain 2012.

Coup 11-23-2011 05:27 AM


Coup 11-23-2011 05:40 AM


porno jew 11-23-2011 05:41 AM

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seeandsee 11-23-2011 05:43 AM

Ron Paul 2012 next American president!

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 05:44 AM

A vote for Cain is a vote for Obama. Herman Cain simply cant win. He has zero support among Independents where the real political power lies. Same goes for all the other GOP candidates. Ron Paul has massive support among Indies.

Face it, your choice is Ron Paul or Obama. Take it or leave it.

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18580625)
herman cain 2012.


porno jew 11-23-2011 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580653)
A vote for Cain is a vote for Obama. Herman Cain simply cant win. He has zero support among Independents where the real political power lies. Ron Paul has massive support among Indies. Same goes for all the other GOP candidates. Face it, your choice is Ron Paul or Obama. Take it or leave it.

paul has no real world experience. aside from giving underage girls abortions. :2 cents:

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 05:49 AM

Coup, why do you post a photo of Mitt Romney? I don't need a used car, thanks anyway-

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 05:54 AM

I would disagree with that characterization but either way it still comes back down to how bad do you want to be rid of Obama. If you are really so stupid to think that women of this country are going to vote for a serial molester you are pretty out of touch. For the record while I dont condone that kind of behavior if it's true, I would prefer to stick to the issues, not that crap but tell that to women. Either way no one else besides Ron Paul can get support from Independents and whether you personally like it or not you need them plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18580661)
paul has no real world experience. aside from giving underage girls abortions. :2 cents:


mafia_man 11-23-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580675)
Coup, why do you post a photo of Mitt Romney? I don't need a used car, thanks anyway-

Romney is going to win.

porno jew 11-23-2011 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580685)
I would disagree with that characterization but either way it still comes back down to how bad do you want to be rid of Obama. If you are really so stupid to think that women of this country are going to vote for a serial molester you are pretty out of touch. For the record while I dont condone that kind of behavior if it's true, I would prefer to stick to the issues, not that crap but tell that to women. Either way no one else besides Ron Paul can get support from Independents and whether you personally like it or not you need them plain and simple.

i would trust hermain cain making my pizza more than ron paul. :2 cents:

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 06:05 AM

The only thing Romney will win is an audition for a "Just for Men" commercial.


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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18580688)
Romney is going to win.


porno jew 11-23-2011 06:10 AM

cain 2012.

mafia_man 11-23-2011 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580704)
The only thing Romney will win is an audition for a "Just for Men" commercial.


Romney will win because he's a corporate spokesman not a right wing hack. He's not radical, he doesn't over promise and he has been consistant in the polls unlike the rest of them.

porno jew 11-23-2011 06:12 AM

we don`t need a reader. we need a leader.

cain 2012.

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 06:16 AM

That works out well then since after this is all over, the only job Cain will be able to get is a job delivering pizza.


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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18580695)
i would trust hermain cain making my pizza more than ron paul. :2 cents:


TheSquealer 11-23-2011 06:23 AM

If Ron Paul gets elected, this country is officially done. We just elected someone who said nothing but "hope" and "change", because of his skin color and because he was the polar opposite of Bush Jr... who's done nothing to lead unless you count repeating incessantly "nothing is my fault, its all Republicans that cause all problems and won't let me fix them" as leading. In that case, he's outstanding as a leader.

Electing a fringe lunatic with impossible ideas that will garner no support whatsoever in Washington will just be confirmation that this nation is officially out of its fucking mind. People voting for ideas like "abolish the Fed" will be even more disappointed than those who voted for Obama and thought they'd wake up to find their mortgages paid or a new car in the driveway.

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 06:31 AM

Yes, consistently stuck at 20% because Republicans really dont like him and are looking for anyone else. And thats among the GOP. What kind of dream world are you living in where you think any independents would vote for slick willie 2.0? If you dont get the independents you lose. Anything else is fantasy-

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18580708)
Romney... has been consistant in the polls unlike the rest of them.


AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-23-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580610)

A poll commissioned by Revolution PAC, a super PAC supporting Texas Rep. Ron Paul’s candidacy for president, shows that Paul is in first place in Iowa.

Sounds unbiased and scientific to me... :upsidedow

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...e%2Blooney.jpg

Is it any wonder that after 11 debates, the Republicans can't settle on a front runner. The one leading the polls at the moment is not even a real Republican, he's a Libertarian in elephant clothing.

All that they are missing is Sarah Palin, but even she had enough sense to sit this one out. :1orglaugh

ADG

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 06:55 AM

I was waiting for someone to make that point rather than just posting pics of used car salesmen and molesters. That's why I linked to TWO other independent polls. The University of Iowa is biased towards Ron Paul? That's what you are saying? Fucking BLOOMBERG is biased towards Ron Paul? C'mon bro, be serious.

Those other two polls have almost the same exact numbers, the only difference is this poll breaks it down between republicans only where he is tied for first (within the margin of error tied 3 ways), and republicans with independents where he is out in front all by himself above the margin of error.

Sorry man, like it or not all three polls have pretty similar numbers, the only difference being that this one also asked likely independent voters and Iowa is an open caucus so thats perfectly reasonable.

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18580746)
Sounds unbiased and scientific to me...


glamourmodels 11-23-2011 07:04 AM

that's what people said about Bush and look how well that turned out... :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18580710)
we don`t need a reader. we need a leader.

cain 2012.


mafia_man 11-23-2011 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18580725)
If Ron Paul gets elected, this country is officially done. We just elected someone who said nothing but "hope" and "change", because of his skin color and because he was the polar opposite of Bush Jr.

Same policies bro.

mafia_man 11-23-2011 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18580735)
Yes, consistently stuck at 20% because Republicans really dont like him and are looking for anyone else. And thats among the GOP. What kind of dream world are you living in where you think any independents would vote for slick willie 2.0? If you dont get the independents you lose. Anything else is fantasy-

So what do we learn from that?

The fence sitters will split between Cain, Newt and Perry whilst Mitt gets his consistent 20%+- voting block to win the nomination.

The independents might be a swing vote but they're not the majority.

bronco67 11-23-2011 07:29 AM

Romney is the only one who appears presidential. I like some of what Ron Paul says --- the guy just makes some good common sense points -- but he comes off as a nut. He needs to work on his borderline manic delivery.

While i like the idea of less government(as Ron Paul wants), I can't get behind things like disbanding something like the EPA. If the only thing keeping Dupont chemical from dumping tons of toxic waste into a river is their conscience, then that river will be flooded with toxic waste. Assuming that corporations will do the right thing is naive.

Sunny Day 11-23-2011 07:38 AM

Big O
 
Obama was supposed to be change. Turned out to be the same old crap.
But the sad thing is, he's better than all the Repthugs.
So as all Dems in my county, in primaries we vote Republican. For the idiot who will lose the general election.
So I'm voting Herman or Ron; what stupid twits.
Know my mom is voting for Ron, says it all. She voted for Ross, another crazy

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 08:46 AM

who has the same policies?? You mean everyone in the race including Obama vs. Ron Paul right? I assume you mean that, just clarifying.

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18580823)
Same policies bro.


glamourmodels 11-23-2011 08:56 AM

And will then promptly get his ass kicked by Obama in the General...

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18580837)
So what do we learn from that?

The fence sitters will split between Cain, Newt and Perry whilst Mitt gets his consistent 20%+- voting block to win the nomination.

I was speaking of the general election. I thought that was obvious but... sorry, I forgot where I was LOL - I will try to speak slowly.

Whatever Republican wins the GOP nomination, with the exception of Ron Paul will lose to Obama. Period. The GOP needs the independents in the general election plain and simple and Independents are for Ron Paul by a wide margin. If you really want to get rid of Obama, Ron Paul is your only choice.

For that matter if he does not get the republican nomination Paul might go third party. Result? Obama wins. If Ron Paul does NOT go third party, enough of his supporters will just write him in anyway. Result. Obama still wins. Romney loses to Obama in a head to head matchup by like 6 points so he already has no chance but the Paul supporters will make it a landslide for Obama if they just write him in even if he is not in the race which is what will happen. Bet on it.

Simply put, Ron Paul has the GOP by the balls. He is either the nominee or you guys have 4 more years of Obama.

Choke on it-

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18580837)
The independents might be a swing vote but they're not the majority.


Wizzo 11-23-2011 09:10 AM

So who will he give his Iowa delegates to once the rest of the country doesn't chose him? :winkwink:

mafia_man 11-23-2011 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18581084)
And will then promptly get his ass kicked by Obama in the General...



I was speaking of the general election. I thought that was obvious but... sorry, I forgot where I was LOL - I will try to speak slowly.

Whatever Republican wins the GOP nomination, with the exception of Ron Paul will lose to Obama. Period. The GOP needs the independents in the general election plain and simple and Independents are for Ron Paul by a wide margin. If you really want to get rid of Obama, Ron Paul is your only choice.

For that matter if he does not get the republican nomination Paul might go third party. Result? Obama wins. If Ron Paul does NOT go third party, enough of his supporters will just write him in anyway. Result. Obama still wins. Romney loses to Obama in a head to head matchup by like 6 points so he already has no chance but the Paul supporters will make it a landslide for Obama if they just write him in even if he is not in the race which is what will happen. Bet on it.

Simply put, Ron Paul has the GOP by the balls. He is either the nominee or you guys have 4 more years of Obama.

Choke on it-

I don't disagree that Paul would be the best candidate in the next general election, but we live in the real world were he won't make it past the primaries.

Any other candidate that wins is going to lose to Obama, that's why the heavy hitters such as Palin and Huckabee have stayed out of the race.

glamourmodels 11-23-2011 10:26 AM

They are not his to give and they wont vote for anyone else, thats my point.

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18581124)
So who will he give his Iowa delegates to once the rest of the country doesn't chose him? :winkwink:


glamourmodels 11-23-2011 10:38 AM

I dont think we are even disagreeing essentially but thats why I am telling Republicans to wake up because if they really want to be rid of Obama, Ron Paul is their only choice whether they can recognize that or not.

If he does not get the GOP nod, he likely goes 3rd party, Obama wins. If he does not go 3rd party his supporters are not his to give away like he is some horse trader. They will simply write his name in and Obama still wins.

I mean either way Obama is beating Romney in a head to head match-up but not nominating Paul just ensures the GOP loss 100%. Will Republicans not be dumb? Unlikely. And frankly if Ron Paul were to win the presidency, I would prefer it be as a 3rd party candidate, that would be more healthy for American democracy but I would rather take the sure thing and not gamble on the ideal situation if conservatives wise up.

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18581310)
I don't disagree that Paul would be the best candidate in the next general election, but we live in the real world were he won't make it past the primaries.

Any other candidate that wins is going to lose to Obama, that's why the heavy hitters such as Palin and Huckabee have stayed out of the race.


Phoenix 11-23-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18580625)
ron paul has been a professional politician his whole life. he has never run a real business like herman cain. herman cain 2012.

so a doctor running his own practice/business since 1968 succesfully
is not a real business? he has employees, he has to file taxes...deliver babies

i mean it isnt an important and complicated business like making pizza but still...:pimp

VikingMan 11-23-2011 10:51 AM

The cattle will vote for whoever they are told to vote. Then they will be slaughtered as usual. Rise, repeat. Enjoy.

Coup 11-23-2011 10:54 AM


crash_jackson 11-23-2011 11:01 AM

lol... crazy!! :thumbsup

kane 11-23-2011 11:11 AM

Am I the only one that thinks it is a little suspect that a group that working for Paul trying to get Paul elected conducts a poll and magically Paul is winning it?

baddog 11-23-2011 11:16 AM

He must be a shoe-in for the White House. After all, if he can win a poll that his own supporters took, it must mean something.

MaDalton 11-23-2011 11:31 AM

when the germans were fed up with all political parties they voted for Hitler - just saying... ;)


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