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tonyparra 07-06-2013 09:03 AM

Couple chases and confronts teens loses fight then fires gun
 
http://gawker.com/5992400/caught-on-...etting-beat-up

These kids are being called heroes for defending themselves. Good thing they had camera rolling when this went down. Or that they did not like Trayvon Martin. I already know what everyones excuses will be I have bet a friend or the guaranteed responses to this thread.

tonyparra 07-06-2013 09:07 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Comments:

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portalspuds1L
So an insecure "man's man" who starts a fight over the most simplest of things, gets in way over his head, and needs a fire arm to protect his masculinity

Sounds like an a-typical gun owner to me
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CurrentSensorStatus11L
Sounds like George Zimmerman to me.

baddog 07-06-2013 09:12 AM

hmmm, I did not hear a gunshot.

ReggieDurango 07-06-2013 09:12 AM

That guy got his ass beat

ReggieDurango 07-06-2013 09:34 AM

I can't stop watching the video! There's really nothing like watching an aggressive jerk get what's coming to him

Phoenix 07-06-2013 09:34 AM

This is how i picture most gun nuts. Now they will go to jail...possibly losing custody of their child.

yes these people should be allowed to carry a life ending device....they obviously can make good decisions.

Rochard 07-06-2013 09:42 AM

Which one of you fuckers is going to say "He was in a life threatening situation where two kids were beating up on him and the next blow could have been deadly - thus he could have shot both kids dead".

Baddog?

geedub 07-06-2013 09:47 AM

Haha what a bitch that guy is.

tonyparra 07-06-2013 09:51 AM

This was videotaped. If Zimmerman was recorded we would know exactly what happened there too.

GFED 07-06-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705335)
Which one of you fuckers is going to say "He was in a life threatening situation where two kids were beating up on him and the next blow could have been deadly - thus he could have shot both kids dead".

Baddog?

If they continued beating him when he hit the ground to the point where it would have been considered excessive then yes, he would have the right to use deadly force.

crockett 07-06-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705309)
hmmm, I did not hear a gunshot.

Then you need to get your hearing checked. The guy fired off a round as he was raising the gun.

GFED 07-06-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19705374)
Then you need to get your hearing checked. The guy fired off a round as he was raising the gun.

You can hear a gunshot after his wife runs out and hands him the gun. But the sound desyncs at that point. Also the gunshot sounds like a .45 caliber while the gun looks like a ruger lcp .32 caliber or maybe a lc9 9 mm. At no point in the video it looks like he actually fires the gun. Nevertheless he had no right to point the gun at them after they fled.

baddog 07-06-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705335)
Which one of you fuckers is going to say "He was in a life threatening situation where two kids were beating up on him and the next blow could have been deadly - thus he could have shot both kids dead".

Baddog?

If he was on the ground and kicking him in the head he would have been justified.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19705374)
Then you need to get your hearing checked. The guy fired off a round as he was raising the gun.

Bullshit, that was the door of the truck slamming shut.

GFED 07-06-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705395)
Bullshit, that was the door of the truck slamming shut.

That would make more sense, as you do not actually see the gun discharge.

baddog 07-06-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19705396)
That would make more sense, as you do not actually see the gun discharge.

Too much sense for GFY. :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19705389)
Nevertheless he had no right to point the gun at them after they fled.

Yup, unfortunately most on GFY don't understand simple, factual concepts like this.

Grapesoda 07-06-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705297)
http://gawker.com/5992400/caught-on-...etting-beat-up

These kids are being called heroes for defending themselves. Good thing they had camera rolling when this went down. Or that they did not like Trayvon Martin. I already know what everyones excuses will be I have bet a friend or the guaranteed responses to this thread.

how about the guy is sitting at the light minding his own biz with the wife and kid, 2 punks pull him out the car and start beating on him... okay to pull the gun then???

Rochard 07-06-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19705345)
If they continued beating him when he hit the ground to the point where it would have been considered excessive then yes, he would have the right to use deadly force.

So when Martin punched Zimmerman it's considered life threatening, but when two kids smack around an older man it's... Just a fist fight?

I don't see the difference between the two. Both were fist fights.

baddog 07-06-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705408)
So when Martin punched Zimmerman it's considered life threatening, but when two kids smack around an older man it's... Just a fist fight?

I don't see the difference between the two. Both were fist fights.

Zimmerman had Martin on top of him.

GFED 07-06-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705408)
So when Martin punched Zimmerman it's considered life threatening, but when two kids smack around an older man it's... Just a fist fight?

I don't see the difference between the two. Both were fist fights.

Well my idea of a fist fight is when the other person hits the ground, you let him back up. If he wants some more, you knock him to the ground again. You do not however beat him while he's down.

edit: Yes, these days many people like to grapple, wrestle, and take the fight to the ground. But when you deny the opponent to tap-out, cry uncle, and continue beating him while he's screaming for help then it's quit excessive.

tonyparra 07-06-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705414)
Zimmerman had Martin on top of him.

This guy got beat way worse than Zimmerman.

The prosecutors say he fired the weapon. I believe it discharged when he cocked it.

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Bradley Turner was charged with multiple crimes, including discharging a weapon into property, going armed to the terror of the people, and two counts of assault by pointing a gun.

Spunky 07-06-2013 11:03 AM

Buddy should have known better than to confront them like that,especially with a wife and kid in the truck

tonyparra 07-06-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19705442)
Well my idea of a fist fight is when the other person hits the ground, you let him back up. If he wants some more, you knock him to the ground again. You do not however beat him while he's down.

edit: Yes, these days many people like to grapple, wrestle, and take the fight to the ground. But when you deny the opponent to tap-out, cry uncle, and continue beating him while he's screaming for help then it's quit excessive.

We still dont know who was yelling for help, how Zimmerman really ended up on the ground. One person heard Martin saying get off me, no one saw it start.

dyna mo 07-06-2013 11:05 AM

holy crap, those 2 are in a whole heap of trouble!

The couple reportedly had a toddler in their car at the time of the incident.

Bradley Turner was charged with multiple crimes, including discharging a weapon into property, going armed to the terror of the people, and two counts of assault by pointing a gun.

Christy Turner was charged with two counts of assault by pointing a gun.

NWB Guy 07-06-2013 11:35 AM

I don't think that guy would have had the balls to stalk and confront those teens if he didn't have a gun with him. Handing out concealed-carry permits like candy is a recipe for disaster. Once chicken-shits like that get to carry a gun around, they start thinking of situations where they can use it.

BlackCrayon 07-06-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19705407)
how about the guy is sitting at the light minding his own biz with the wife and kid, 2 punks pull him out the car and start beating on him... okay to pull the gun then???

but thats not what happened. the guy came at these kids, punching them, they fought back and the guy was losing so out comes the gun. the guy shouldn't of started something he couldn't finish on his own.

baddog 07-06-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705451)

The prosecutors say he fired the weapon. I believe it discharged when he cocked it.

Well, like someone mentioned, the sound sync seems to have gone awry . . . when I watched it again I hear what could be a shot before he was even handed the gun.

crockett 07-06-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705400)
Too much sense for GFY. :1orglaugh

Obviously the cops charged them with discharging the weapon for no reason. The house also managed to cause damage to itself.

Obviously a vast conspiracy in the making to allow Obama to take everyone's guns away. This actually makes much more sense..

What would we ever do without guys like baddog to tell us how it really happened.

BlackCrayon 07-06-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705400)
Too much sense for GFY. :1orglaugh

it seems you are always willing to side with the older people and villianize the younger. i don't know if the gun went off or what but the guy followed them to their home around and shot out the windows of their truck. that has nothing to do with self defense.

shake 07-06-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19705511)
but thats not what happened. the guy came at these kids, punching them, they fought back and the guy was losing so out comes the gun. the guy shouldn't of started something he couldn't finish on his own.

That's what I saw as well. If the kids were driving dangerously, he should call the cops.. the danger to him was over once they passed him.

I'm not against guns, but that guy shouldn't have one if he can't control himself from pointing it around like a cockhead after loosing a fight he started.

crockett 07-06-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19705407)
how about the guy is sitting at the light minding his own biz with the wife and kid, 2 punks pull him out the car and start beating on him... okay to pull the gun then???

But that didn't happen now did it..

bronco67 07-06-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19705328)
This is how i picture most gun nuts. Now they will go to jail...possibly losing custody of their child.

yes these people should be allowed to carry a life ending device....they obviously can make good decisions.


Don't start none, there won't be none. Some people are animals when they get behind the wheel. One time I didn't leave from a green light fast enough, and some guy acted like wanted to kill me. These are the kind of sociopath assholes you hope you're lucky enough to avoid on a daily basis, but sometimes you cross paths.

Most people who carry guns are scared of their own shadow. Why would they carry one in the first place? Your odds of shooting someone go up one thousand percent, and you're most likely going to be in jail for some time, not matter how it started or who was right.

dyna mo 07-06-2013 12:03 PM

i can't sort out the sound of gunfire either, i hear her say get the fuck off him from off camera, and right when he hits the ground there's a louder sounds, then she enters scene handling the weapon like it's just been fired. is that about right?

crockett 07-06-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705408)
So when Martin punched Zimmerman it's considered life threatening, but when two kids smack around an older man it's... Just a fist fight?

I don't see the difference between the two. Both were fist fights.

In this video the guy whom pulled the gun attacked first and the two kids beat him up. However they backed of once he hit the ground and walked away.

With Zimmerman we don't truly know who started it, however we do know Martin stayed on top of him and continued to hit Zimmerman.

That is the difference.

baddog 07-06-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19705522)
it seems you are always willing to side with the older people and villianize the younger. i don't know if the gun went off or what but the guy circled around and shot out the windows of their truck after the teens left it. that has nothing to do with self defense.

How was I siding with anyone? I said I did not hear a gunshot. After watching 3-4 times and taking into consideration the suggestion that the audio was not synched with the video I said that there may have been a shot.

I did not see him shoot out any windows in that video; no, I did not bother reading the story . . . I did now . . . I wonder if the chick is who fired it.

But where did I ever take sides in this?

L-Pink 07-06-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19705328)
This is how i picture most gun nuts.

Nice generalization.

dyna mo 07-06-2013 12:09 PM

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Much of it was caught on a cell phone camera by a passenger in the back seat of the pickup truck that Turner said ran him off the road. In the video, lawmen say Turner walked up to the driver and a fight quickly began.

Deputies say the video shows Christy Turner getting out of their vehicle with a handgun at which time the fight ends. She handed the handgun to her husband, who then is seen pointing it at the other men.

Deputies say what's not seen on the video is the husband firing several rounds into the pickup truck as he left.



http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/C...199787001.html

crockett 07-06-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705451)
This guy got beat way worse than Zimmerman.

The prosecutors say he fired the weapon. I believe it discharged when he cocked it.

That's what I think.. It didn't look like he ment to fire it, looked like a accidental discharge however he and his wife are at fault accident or not because they pulled the gun.

Phoenix 07-06-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19705543)
Nice generalization.

key words NUTS...lol

i have many friends with guns...but thankfully none of them are nuts


i dont imagine you would ever chase down some kids and pull a handgun on them either :)

crockett 07-06-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19705549)
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Much of it was caught on a cell phone camera by a passenger in the back seat of the pickup truck that Turner said ran him off the road. In the video, lawmen say Turner walked up to the driver and a fight quickly began.

Deputies say the video shows Christy Turner getting out of their vehicle with a handgun at which time the fight ends. She handed the handgun to her husband, who then is seen pointing it at the other men.

Deputies say what's not seen on the video is the husband firing several rounds into the pickup truck as he left.



http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/C...199787001.html

If that guy shot as they were fleeing as the later info stats then he should be charged with attempted murder.

Both should be charged with felonies so they can never legally own a gun again. These are the types of morons that shouldn't have the right to bear arms.


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