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mikesouth 09-12-2014 11:29 AM

Bonnie Rotten suing Max Hardcore
 
For Slander/libel according to couirt docs she is asking 50K in damages

story at

http://www.mikesouth.com

Ive dug in a bit and while you would think it would be as simple as referring to the model release...it isnt.

More as I get it...despite what courtroom news says the case was filed this year

Defendant(s)
FILM WEST PRODUCTION


LITTLE PAUL F


MAX HARDCORETV COM

Activity Date: 5/7/2014 Participant: HICKS ALAINA
LIBEL/SLANDER COMPLAINT FILED

Court Fee: 337.00
Ad Damnum Amount: 50000.00

Attorney: BRUSTEIN ABRAHAM E

mikesouth 09-12-2014 11:47 AM

Make it 150K 50K on each of 3 counts

claims she never signed a model release new info I just found

JFK 09-12-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20223871)
Make it 150K 50K on each of 3 counts

claims she never signed a model release new info I just found

Saw that on your FB page, if Max fucked up like that , too bad :2 cents:

ReggieDurango 09-12-2014 12:02 PM

Paully??

CDSmith 09-12-2014 12:10 PM

Paul wouldn't say something like that without proof. Would he?

SomeCreep 09-12-2014 07:27 PM

That girl uhhhh... has issues.

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-12-2014 08:02 PM

I fucked Rachel Rotten few years ago.

Paully 09-12-2014 09:38 PM

I don't see any mention of a counter suit in your article Mike.

Anyways, does anybody here really think after 2500 scenes Max didn't get a model release?

I shouldn't be commenting on pending litigation but she done fucked up bringing this law suit. I hope she's saving her pennies.

Trying to extort money like this could be very costly not to mention the amount of work she'll lose when all the studio's out there see what they're up against by hiring her.

Oh and by the way the model release has already been submitted to the courts. Her council's response was to ask for a postponement.

Spunky 09-12-2014 09:42 PM

Good luck to the winners?

RandyRandy 09-12-2014 09:59 PM

Hmmmmm, 21 year-old porn actress vs. Max, who's been through the legal ringer in the past and is probably even more careful to dot the i's and cross the t's.

Max Hardcore for the win.

mikesouth 09-12-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224288)
I don't see any mention of a counter suit in your article Mike.

Anyways, does anybody here really think after 2500 scenes Max didn't get a model release?

I shouldn't be commenting on pending litigation but she done fucked up bringing this law suit. I hope she's saving her pennies.

Trying to extort money like this could be very costly not to mention the amount of work she'll lose when all the studio's out there see what they're up against by hiring her.

Oh and by the way the model release has already been submitted to the courts. Her council's response was to ask for a postponement.

The articles info I have found since including the court record have no mention of any filings at all by Max. It certainly seemed odd to me that Max wouldnt get a release but apparently she had enough to get an injunction. I realize ya cant comment on a pending case Im sure yu recognize that the implications for the biz could be huge, and though this was kept pretty quiet for a while (im told xbiz killed a story on it) it could have huge implications for content producers.

Paully 09-12-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20224299)
The articles info I have found since including the court record have no mention of any filings at all by Max. It certainly seemed odd to me that Max wouldnt get a release but apparently she had enough to get an injunction. I realize ya cant comment on a pending case Im sure yu recognize that the implications for the biz could be huge, and though this was kept pretty quiet for a while (im told xbiz killed a story on it) it could have huge implications for content producers.

I wouldn't sweat it Mike. With all the ridiculous bullshit in her claim she's lucky the courts are even listening to her at all.

Edit: They give injunctions based on one sides complaint.

NemesisEnforcer 09-12-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20223853)
For Slander/libel according to couirt docs she is asking 50K in damages

story at

http://www.mikesouth.com

Ive dug in a bit and while you would think it would be as simple as referring to the model release...it isnt.

More as I get it...despite what courtroom news says the case was filed this year

Defendant(s)
FILM WEST PRODUCTION


LITTLE PAUL F


MAX HARDCORETV COM

Activity Date: 5/7/2014 Participant: HICKS ALAINA
LIBEL/SLANDER COMPLAINT FILED

Court Fee: 337.00
Ad Damnum Amount: 50000.00

Attorney: BRUSTEIN ABRAHAM E

You should also check for records filed on July 3, 2014.

NemesisEnforcer 09-12-2014 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20223871)
Make it 150K 50K on each of 3 counts

claims she never signed a model release new info I just found

Max has BTS video of her signing the release. It's all over the web. When it comes to paperwork, Max is airtight. Any of his former colleagues will tell you that: Zane, Legend, etc.

Paully 09-12-2014 11:35 PM

Here's a link to Bonnie's interview with Xcritic a week after the scene with her in Vegas for the AEE 2012 with Max.

http://www.xcritic.com/columns/column.php?columnID=3020

Paully 09-13-2014 12:03 AM

Here's an interview at the AEE 2012 with Max. Bonnie comes in around 7:54 seconds.

Max explains the legal shit he went through over obscenity and then they discuss the Bonnie scene with her on his lap.


ReggieDurango 09-13-2014 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224331)
Here's a link to Bonnie's interview with Xcritic a week after the scene with her in Vegas for the AEE 2012 with Max.

http://www.xcritic.com/columns/column.php?columnID=3020

Interviewer: "What kind of sex are you into?"

Bonnie: "I?m into consensual rape."

Interviewer: "Consensual rape. That?s a good way of putting it."

Bonnie: "Yes. [Laughs]"

k0nr4d 09-13-2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224288)
Oh and by the way the model release has already been submitted to the courts. Her council's response was to ask for a postponement.

I don't doubt you for a second on the documentation - with Max having had that run-in with the law I'm absolutely positive he'd be very meticulous with documentation and very, very careful - Even more so when you factor in this was her supposed first time shooting. Girl's regret doing porn all the time. Seems sort of hard to claim the shoot caused her distress if she kept shooting afterwards for others...

Paully 09-13-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20224343)
I don't doubt you for a second on the documentation - with Max having had that run-in with the law I'm absolutely positive he'd be very meticulous with documentation and very, very careful - Even more so when you factor in this was her supposed first time shooting. Girl's regret doing porn all the time. Seems sort of hard to claim the shoot caused her distress if she kept shooting afterwards for others...

:2 cents: Check out the interviews I posted if you haven't already, both were a week after the shoot.

Arnox 09-13-2014 01:31 AM

What a potato.

PornoMonster 09-13-2014 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20223871)
Make it 150K 50K on each of 3 counts

claims she never signed a model release new info I just found

Ha, won't be the first Model to claim that..

8K later I won my case. Mine was for $750K

So yeah 8K is a win....

Grapesoda 09-13-2014 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224288)
I don't see any mention of a counter suit in your article Mike.

Anyways, does anybody here really think after 2500 scenes Max didn't get a model release?

I shouldn't be commenting on pending litigation but she done fucked up bringing this law suit. I hope she's saving her pennies.

Trying to extort money like this could be very costly not to mention the amount of work she'll lose when all the studio's out there see what they're up against by hiring her.

Oh and by the way the model release has already been submitted to the courts. Her council's response was to ask for a postponement.

I shot a model that picked up the DVD tape of the scene on her way out of the location... had a release... no content :2 cents:

k0nr4d 09-13-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20224489)
I shot a model that picked up the DVD tape of the scene on her way out of the location... had a release... no content :2 cents:

hah no way? just like that?

Grapesoda 09-13-2014 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20224524)
hah no way? just like that?

it was a production after mine, but yeah....crew went to lunch, she grabbed tape and left, just like that

FYI: only 3 people beside surfers I know off that believe anything a model says, MS is one of them :2 cents:

Far-L 09-13-2014 10:25 AM

Max has dealt with this sort of nuttiness for years. I worked with him in the 90s and was actually involved in a similar case of Max Scene Remorse where I had been the performer in the Max production. Case was thrown out as soon as they saw her on tape talking about how much she enjoyed her self. Max doesn't just cover paperwork before they shoot, he shoots coverage of everything so he has a record of anything and everything that goes down. I know because I worked for him when he instituted the policy to protect his ass.

The real story is how did this model convince an attorney to even assert this claim in the first place.

Mike is not Captain Save-a-ho. He is the Imperial Grand Vizier of Ho-Savers Worldwide. Make sure to salute him as you pass with a hairy palm pressed to your forehead.

mikesouth 09-13-2014 12:06 PM

Far-L while I did once save 15,000 hos in one fell swoop in this case I got no dog in the fight...my only interest in this case is how it could impact me

NemesisEnforcer 09-13-2014 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20224624)
Max has dealt with this sort of nuttiness for years. I worked with him in the 90s and was actually involved in a similar case of Max Scene Remorse where I had been the performer in the Max production. Case was thrown out as soon as they saw her on tape talking about how much she enjoyed her self. Max doesn't just cover paperwork before they shoot, he shoots coverage of everything so he has a record of anything and everything that goes down. I know because I worked for him when he instituted the policy to protect his ass.

The real story is how did this model convince an attorney to even assert this claim in the first place.

Indeed, this is definitely "Max Scene Remorse" she is not looking to make money off Max. The attorneys are the only winners in this situation.

Paully 09-13-2014 02:42 PM

Remorse my ass. Have you seen the shit she's done since? Did you read and watch her interviews afterwards. Its a fucking shakedown.

She went on to become performer of the year, this wasn't detrimental in any way to her. People probably still wouldnt know who the hell she is if she didnt come with Max out to Vegas for fucks sake.

Paully 09-13-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20224624)

The real story is how did this model convince an attorney to even assert this claim in the first place.


I think you, me and everybody else know how she got him to do it.

NemesisEnforcer 09-13-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224748)
Remorse my ass. Have you seen the shit she's done since? Did you read and watch her interviews afterwards. Its a fucking shakedown.

She went on to become performer of the year, this wasn't detrimental in any way to her. People probably still wouldnt know who the hell she is if she didnt come with Max out to Vegas for fucks sake.

No, remorse is the kinder way to put it. The problem is that she takes all the hype too serious and don't realize that no one in society cares what you won, who you fucked for or what agency you're with.

VikingMan 09-13-2014 03:08 PM

Max is a Gentleman:thumbsup

MaDalton 09-13-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20224666)
Far-L while I did once save 15,000 hos in one fell swoop in this case I got no dog in the fight...my only interest in this case is how it could impact me

in that case please post the other side of the story in the same size as the 2 posts on your blog that are still up

NemesisEnforcer 09-13-2014 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madalton (Post 20224768)
in that case please post the other side of the story in the same size as the 2 posts on your blog that are still up

Thank you! Couldn't agree more.

Paully 09-13-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 20224806)
Thank you! Couldn't agree more.

You seem to have taken a different stance on this situation from when it started some time ago. Nothing wrong with changing your mind and honestly I'm glad you can now see it for what it is.

mikesouth 09-13-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20224768)
in that case please post the other side of the story in the same size as the 2 posts on your blog that are still up

you might want to take a look at both those stories

both are from courthouse news sites...I didnt write em they both read pretty objective to me.

honestly i dont see much merit in this one....for all the reasons yall mention above My money sez Bonnie loses

Paully 09-13-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20224818)
you might want to take a look at both those stories

both are from courthouse news sites...I didnt write em they both read pretty objective to me.

Why don't you put up the 2 interviews I posted. I think your readers can figure it out from there.

mikesouth 09-13-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224820)
Why don't you put up the 2 interviews I posted. I think your readers can figure it out from there.

actually they are already scheduled to run Monday (when my traffic is much higher)

and if you read the comments they are decidedly in favor of this as a waste of the courts time.

MaDalton 09-13-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20224818)
you might want to take a look at both those stories

both are from courthouse news sites...I didnt write em they both read pretty objective to me.

honestly i dont see much merit in this one....for all the reasons yall mention above My money sez Bonnie loses

you know what I think honestly by now?

that you are as credible as news source as Lawrence Connor is a male pornstar..

mikesouth 09-13-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20224824)
you know what I think honestly by now?

that you are as credible as news source as Lawrence Connor is a male pornstar..

And I care why?

NemesisEnforcer 09-13-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 20224815)
You seem to have taken a different stance on this situation from when it started some time ago. Nothing wrong with changing your mind and honestly I'm glad you can now see it for what it is.

My position hasn't changed. When she ran her intentions by me I told her to let it go, there was no case. As you've demonstrated, she was fine doing the scene. It was not until people started getting into her head about the type of work Max does, that she had remorse. I understand her position, you come into the business not knowing who to trust. You tell people you did your first scene for Max Hardcore and they all look down on you and tell you that you are stupid. In this business of the popularity contest and attention whoring, remorse and anger/revenge sets in.

I've personally known Max for 18 years and he is a friend. Anything I said previously was because I knew what was coming his way from, at that time, an 18 year old with nothing to lose. I even offered to talk to Max. That's why I mentioned to you that she procrastinated in talking to Max.

Although minor, at this point, I can think of only 1 thing that Max needs to do regarding this case. Since he has done nothing wrong, I hope he prevails for the sake of the business.


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