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dropped9 10-30-2008 07:11 PM

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is...
 
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________

tony286 10-30-2008 07:13 PM

what type a real one like a buying porn dvd or a site membership? To me someone paying you to do a design is not an adult transaction its a business one.

dropped9 10-30-2008 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14980269)
what type a real one like a buying porn dvd or a site membership? To me someone paying you to do a design is not an adult transaction its a business one.


I agree Tony... But paypal doesnt... We shall see though... We both loose our paypal accounts... No problem on my end...

Marcus Aurelius 10-30-2008 07:15 PM

good way to lose your paypal account?
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David! 10-30-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980262)
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________

Self flagellation

sortie 10-30-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980262)
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________


Just as fucking dumb and assine as you are in reality.

You're a fucking waste of flesh.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NaughtyRob 10-30-2008 07:17 PM

fucking stupid.

tony286 10-30-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980277)
I agree Tony... But paypal doesnt... We shall see though... We both loose our paypal accounts... No problem on my end...

if the two companies names werent cum slut designs and my mother is whore llc. I think you could win it.

The Duck 10-30-2008 07:19 PM

Retarded in so many ways.

fris 10-30-2008 07:20 PM

is what scammers do when they want their money back

After Shock Media 10-30-2008 07:30 PM

Typically not a problem at all. Especially for the buyer, not alway safe for the seller though. Unless the transaction was for something VERY adult.

jimbona 10-30-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980262)
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________

Paypal Suicide!

Barefootsies 10-30-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14980269)
what type a real one like a buying porn dvd or a site membership? To me someone paying you to do a design is not an adult transaction its a business one.

Porn DVD, and hard, trackable, tangible transaction are allowed.

VIRTUAL transactions such as membership, web designs, sites, domains are not.

T.O.S. is your friend.

Been round and round in the past with PayPal on this very issue.

Manowar 10-30-2008 08:21 PM

Risky....

Barefootsies 10-30-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 14980568)
Risky....

Tootsie..

Spunky 10-30-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14980557)
Porn DVD, and hard, trackable, tangible transaction are allowed.

VIRTUAL transactions such as membership, web designs, sites, domains are not.

T.O.S. is your friend.

Been round and round in the past with PayPal on this very issue.

Cut and dry.you're pretty much fucked if it's non tangible:2 cents:

Barefootsies 10-30-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 14980583)
Cut and dry.you're pretty much fucked if it's non tangible:2 cents:

That is 100% correct.

Spunky 10-30-2008 08:33 PM

You should know better man.No Paypal for Adult stuff,especially if it's design related.

Barefootsies 10-30-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 14980615)
You should know better man.No Paypal for Adult stuff,especially if it's design related.

aka..... reading their T.O.S.

cgu 10-30-2008 09:38 PM

I've gotten mine reinstated. It takes a few days to call up the food chain and get a supervisor, but eventually someone will call you back from a South Dakota area code and talk with you about it and you promise you don't use it for adult and only to buy stuff on ebay.

FYI if you ever submit for paypal merchant processing for something that even smells adult or against their terms they BAN YOU FOR LIFE.

Barefootsies 10-30-2008 09:42 PM

Goddamn people.

If all else fails, fucking read..

Quote:

Mature Audiences Policy
PayPal will process payments for the purchase and sale of certain sexually oriented physical goods but currently does not allow transactions for sexually oriented digital goods. PayPal also currently does not allow transactions for any sexually oriented physical or digital goods by non-U.S. residents.

Physical Goods
PayPal permits transactions for certain sexually oriented physical goods by U.S. residents. Physical goods include videos, DVDs, magazines or other tangible products physically delivered to the customer. In determining what physical goods are permitted or prohibited, PayPal may consider some or all of the following factors:

* Any regulations or restrictions on the purchase or sale of the good in the applicable jurisdiction.

* The classification of the good by a recognized ratings board.

* Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct.

* Representations or descriptions of intercourse, masturbation, excretory functions, or lewd exhibition of the genitals.

* Dominant theme of the material or website.

* Literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

* Safety and protection of its customers, both buyers and sellers.

* Medical or educational usage of the product or service.

Digital Goods
PayPal prohibits transactions for all sexually oriented digital goods. Digital goods include downloaded pictures or videos, subscriptions to websites, or other content delivered through a digital medium.

Other Prohibited Goods and Services
Notwithstanding the requirements and factors described above, PayPal prohibits transactions for the following goods or services:

* Any sexually oriented goods or services involving minors, or made to appear to involve minors.

* Any services for which the purpose is to facilitate meetings for sexually oriented activities.

PayPal will not include sexual preferences or viewpoints as a factor in determining what goods or services are prohibited under the Mature Audiences Policy.
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...side&ed=mature

:disgust

NTSS 10-30-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980262)
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________

mavericky?

woj 10-30-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14980941)
Goddamn people.

If all else fails, fucking read..



http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...side&ed=mature

:disgust

It's not really THAT clear actually, I would think hiring a designer is more of a "service" than a "good"... :2 cents:

CDSmith 10-30-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980262)
finish the sentence....

Filing a paypal dispute for an ADULT TRANSACTION is __________________


http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1145820268.jpg

DamageX 10-31-2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14980277)
I agree Tony... But paypal doesnt... We shall see though... We both loose our paypal accounts... No problem on my end...

Your account is toast. Seen several designers get their accounts nailed for adult design.

d-null 10-31-2008 12:26 AM

reading that TOS, I am still wondering if it is safe to accept paypal for the sale of an adult domain?

buck30 10-31-2008 12:26 AM

Review Threat on talent

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=856392

A "professional" designer wouldn't be using tables, and would have put image placeholders for the thumbs.

XTNBruno has to say "I've seen better template.........."

GXM says "wow.... this template design makes me think of myself as a bit more than a professional......lol"

Sosa (love the cubs) "could use some work, I see some code probelms showing a black line between images"

buck30 10-31-2008 12:27 AM

Deej has this to say

"You went with that designer. You should full well know what you will be getting if you did any research.

What are you trying to say? You got what you should have been expecting.

Its not bad - Ive just never seen text and not actual placeholder pics.

Very basic - is that what you ordered? If so - Whats the issue?"

woj 10-31-2008 12:31 AM

so what's going on here? this turned into some drama? buck30 is charging back a design job from Headless? is that what happened?

buck30 10-31-2008 12:44 AM

Headless does not reply to emails, and crys and complains about final changes, even though I am a fucking idiot and paid final payment BEFORE 2 sites finished. out of nearly $1400 asking for $320 back since I can't get .psd or a few final changes.
DesertCuties.com/new

nad work I might have got his attention..if he'd contact me..

buck30 10-31-2008 12:48 AM

Quote from Jason/Not another designer Thurs 30 Oct 6:57pm PDT

"Paysites dont HAVE nav bars."

Broda 10-31-2008 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck30 (Post 14981515)
Headless does not reply to emails, and crys and complains about final changes, even though I am a fucking idiot and paid final payment BEFORE 2 sites finished. out of nearly $1400 asking for $320 back since I can't get .psd or a few final changes.
DesertCuties.com/new

nad work I might have got his attention..if he'd contact me..

Ouch-- that is the worst design *ever*
I feel your pain, don't get me wrong. But I can't but laught a little. To refer to that as a design is a gross misrepresentation.

You should have done your due diligence before contracting out the job to a guy who's skills haven't really received any praise, other than from his cohorts.

DamageX 10-31-2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buck30 (Post 14981515)
Headless does not reply to emails, and crys and complains about final changes, even though I am a fucking idiot and paid final payment BEFORE 2 sites finished. out of nearly $1400 asking for $320 back since I can't get .psd or a few final changes.
DesertCuties.com/new

nad work I might have got his attention..if he'd contact me..

$1400 for THAT? Good grief... If I were you I'd charge back the full amount and go with someone else.

dropped9 10-31-2008 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 14981625)
$1400 for THAT? Good grief... If I were you I'd charge back the full amount and go with someone else.

No not for THAT!

He got a paysite, an affiliate site, fhgs, etc etc.

Greg and Jane like to distort the facts. They like to play games to try and squeeze more and more work out of someone.

They like to try to play good cop bad cop. One gives you the specifics on what they want designed while the other turns around 2 weeks later saying it wasnt what was ordered trying to get you to redo it.

I made every final change they requested on their designs. I even made their button in their sig.

I have even had them be so petty as to fake emails and headers saying they wanted more changes when they never even sent the email. I can post all emailed with ALL the changes I made along with all the lies and bullshit I have had to deal with from these two.

I delivered their designs a MONTH ago, now they want another change again. A change that they should of mentioned when I first delivered their design's mock up. For example they want a nav bar on their paysite now. Well shouldn't they have mentioned that when I first showed them their final mock up? Why didnt they? Should they have said that when I delivered their paysite? THEY DIDNT!!!!!! Am I supposed to make major site wide changes a month after a design is delivered? Come on....

Greg I really do hope we both loose our paypal accounts. It would be a funny ending to this bullshit from you.

Broda 10-31-2008 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14981747)
No not for THAT!

He got a paysite, an affiliate site, fhgs, etc etc.

Greg and Jane like to distort the facts. They like to play games to try and squeeze more and more work out of someone.

They like to try to play good cop bad cop. One gives you the specifics on what they want designed while the other turns around 2 weeks later saying it wasnt what was ordered trying to get you to redo it.

I made every final change they requested on their designs. I even made their button in their sig.

I have even had them be so petty as to fake emails and headers saying they wanted more changes when they never even sent the email. I can post all emailed with ALL the changes I made along with all the lies and bullshit I have had to deal with from these two.

I delivered their designs a MONTH ago, now they want another change again. A change that they should of mentioned when I first delivered their design's mock up. For example they want a nav bar on their paysite now. Well shouldn't they have mentioned that when I first showed them their final mock up? Why didnt they? Should they have said that when I delivered their paysite? THEY DIDNT!!!!!! Am I supposed to make major site wide changes a month after a design is delivered? Come on....

Greg I really do hope we both loose our paypal accounts. It would be a funny ending to this bullshit from you.

http://www.desertcuties.com/new/

'nuff said

dropped9 10-31-2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broda (Post 14981769)

Tell me about it, he made so many changes to the original design that it doesnt even reflect what it had originally looked like...

Why dont you back off and mind your fucking business instead of trying to troll me.

God why am I up... sleep i must get...

Broda 10-31-2008 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14981778)
Tell me about it, he made so many changes to the original design that it doesnt even reflect what it had originally looked like...

Why dont you back off and mind your fucking business instead of trying to troll me.

God why am I up... sleep i must get...

Not trying to troll you. Couldn't care less.
Just find this thread rather amusing in so many ways.

DamageX 10-31-2008 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14981747)
No not for THAT!

He got a paysite, an affiliate site, fhgs, etc etc.

Greg and Jane like to distort the facts. They like to play games to try and squeeze more and more work out of someone.

They like to try to play good cop bad cop. One gives you the specifics on what they want designed while the other turns around 2 weeks later saying it wasnt what was ordered trying to get you to redo it.

I made every final change they requested on their designs. I even made their button in their sig.

I have even had them be so petty as to fake emails and headers saying they wanted more changes when they never even sent the email. I can post all emailed with ALL the changes I made along with all the lies and bullshit I have had to deal with from these two.

I delivered their designs a MONTH ago, now they want another change again. A change that they should of mentioned when I first delivered their design's mock up. For example they want a nav bar on their paysite now. Well shouldn't they have mentioned that when I first showed them their final mock up? Why didnt they? Should they have said that when I delivered their paysite? THEY DIDNT!!!!!! Am I supposed to make major site wide changes a month after a design is delivered? Come on....

Greg I really do hope we both loose our paypal accounts. It would be a funny ending to this bullshit from you.

I will agree with you that every now and then it's difficult as hell to please a customer and they just keep coming back for more and more adjustments and additions. I've sold tons of design and dealt with tons of clients, so trust me, I know.

That being said, and I truly hope you take this the best way possible and learn from it, your design work lacks. I have no interest in trolling you (even if I do find that you act like an asshole more often than it benefits you), so I don't want to insult you or anything. However, if I were you, I WOULD spend a shitload of time improving my design skills before offering to sell design again. Otherwise you'll just keep running into situations like this one (or others that have caused a stink on here), because the clients simply won't be satisfied with the level of finishing your design work shows.

Best of luck to you.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 10-31-2008 03:50 AM

http://www.desertcuties.com/new/

Fuck, someone would have to pay ME to fly that "design".

Headless why don't you stop the self abuse and get a real job?

JaneB 10-31-2008 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 14981747)
No not for THAT!

He got a paysite, an affiliate site, fhgs, etc etc.

Greg and Jane like to distort the facts. They like to play games to try and squeeze more and more work out of someone.

They like to try to play good cop bad cop. One gives you the specifics on what they want designed while the other turns around 2 weeks later saying it wasnt what was ordered trying to get you to redo it.

I made every final change they requested on their designs. I even made their button in their sig.

I have even had them be so petty as to fake emails and headers saying they wanted more changes when they never even sent the email. I can post all emailed with ALL the changes I made along with all the lies and bullshit I have had to deal with from these two.

I delivered their designs a MONTH ago, now they want another change again. A change that they should of mentioned when I first delivered their design's mock up. For example they want a nav bar on their paysite now. Well shouldn't they have mentioned that when I first showed them their final mock up? Why didnt they? Should they have said that when I delivered their paysite? THEY DIDNT!!!!!! Am I supposed to make major site wide changes a month after a design is delivered? Come on....

Greg I really do hope we both loose our paypal accounts. It would be a funny ending to this bullshit from you.


Jason you lying son of a bitch. You made the worst templatesI have ever seen. When Greg asked you to fix them you threw a bitch fit. Greg even posted them on here to see if he was being harsh to you. Not one person like them at all, including me and they were my templetes. You did not deliver the site we wanted. Who the fuck wants flowers and shit on their website? That might for for a teen site, but we didn't ask you to build a teen site. It took you two weeks to even get back to us after you made a few changes. You still have yet to make a navigation bar for the desertcuties.com site. Your response of "Paysites dont HAVE nav bars" is total bullshit. They do have navigation bars. It took your lazy ass months to make the affiliate site DesertBucks. That site was supposed to be done by the middle of June. Greg also did send you what he wanted changed on Desert Cuties and you have yet to make the changes. He has sent you many messages that you never answer back to. Instead of bitching about it on here, get your ass to work and do what you were hired to do. As for the button in the sig, it took you almost two months to get that button to me. You are a shitty designer and a complete liar. Please post the e-mails so I can post the ones of you refusing to fix things even when you were asked to as soon as we saw the work you did.


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