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DatingGold 08-19-2009 11:48 PM

I want to start a site like SuicideGirls. Who can make it happen?
 
I got the domain and I got the funds but I don't have the time. Who's got the talent and proof that they can make it happen.

I don't want a programmer or a designer. I want a person that can get it all done and manage the product. Oversee development, design, marketing, partnerships, advertising...

If you don't have experience don't bother.

allan at datinggold.com

Anthony 08-19-2009 11:52 PM

Sounds like a great project, not sure you are gonna find that well rounded of a person who isn't already entrenched in their own projects.

Good luck!

JustDaveXxx 08-19-2009 11:52 PM

Looks like a great opportunity. who is gonna shoot it?

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:13 AM

you're not going to find that person on GFY.

DatingGold 08-20-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211863)
you're not going to find that person on GFY.

Where would I find them?

Mr Pheer 08-20-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211863)
you're not going to find that person on GFY.

LOL, retard!

There are several of us here that could handle that.

RyuLion 08-20-2009 12:21 AM

Wow, someone is up late. you mean you want a BDSM site or Goth solo site?

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 16211880)
LOL, retard!

There are several of us here that could handle that.

thanks for proving my point for me.

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:23 AM

Honestly dude, you can't recreate what SG has done. Girls growing up now want to get tatt'ed/pierced and be "SG's". They consider themselves art, not porn. And if you hire some content shooter that shoots reality or gonzo or any kind of porn, it's probably not going to be anything real alt/punk people want. Kayden420 is recruiting a lot of SuicideGirls to pose for us since SG only takes a few sets a year from a girl, if that. But recruiting the girls who think it's art is difficult to do for a pornsite.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211887)
Honestly dude, you can't recreate what SG has done. Girls growing up now want to get tatt'ed/pierced and be "SG's". They consider themselves art, not porn. And if you hire some content shooter that shoots reality or gonzo or any kind of porn, it's probably not going to be anything real alt/punk people want. Kayden420 is recruiting a lot of SuicideGirls to pose for us since SG only takes a few sets a year from a girl, if that. But recruiting the girls who think it's art is difficult to do for a pornsite.

indeed. plus 1000 other reasons why this genre has an extremely high barrier to entry.

The Adult Broker 08-20-2009 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 16211879)
Where would I find them?

knock knock - I may know of someone for you ;) sent you icq

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211894)
indeed. plus 1000 other reasons why this genre has an extremely high barrier to entry.

Yep, SG to me is like the devil who's tricking these naive girls into submitting free photo sets upon free photo sets so they can make money with their member retention.

Anthony 08-20-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211886)
thanks for proving my point for me.

Get off your high horse. Someone might just knock you off of it.

»Rob Content« 08-20-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16211910)
Get off your high horse. Someone might just knock you off of it.

So very true, she's came across that way since she joined.

Mutt 08-20-2009 12:33 AM

put Cookie in charge

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»Rob Content« 08-20-2009 12:33 AM

Allen, grab me on icq..

Shot you a message.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211905)
Yep, SG to me is like the devil who's tricking these naive girls into submitting free photo sets upon free photo sets so they can make money with their member retention.

i don't agree with the sociopathic nature of many companies but some people might call that a good business plan.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 16211910)
Get off your high horse. Someone might just knock you off of it.

*shrug* i know this niche very well.

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211919)
i don't agree with the sociopathic nature of many companies but some people might call that a good business plan.

Yea it's a great plan if you're not a model, but these chicks think that SG isn't making money off these pics since they're only for members.

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16211915)

WTF she carved a fucking DIAMOND in her chest? Ughh, and the acne isn't too flattering either. Cute girl, could use a little cleaning up.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211924)
Yea it's a great plan if you're not a model, but these chicks think that SG isn't making money off these pics since they're only for members.

allan is not a model =) at least not to my knowledge haha.

i don't think that the way that some sites take free content off of girls is in good faith or well-meaning or good for the girls but at the end of the day the girls need to make good decisions. no one FORCES them to hand these sets over for free. they are willing participants.

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211936)
allan is not a model =) at least not to my knowledge haha.

i don't think that the way that some sites take free content off of girls is in good faith or well-meaning or good for the girls but at the end of the day the girls need to make good decisions. no one FORCES them to hand these sets over for free. they are willing participants.

No shit he's not a model, I was talking in general. Yes no one forces them, but if you feel it's fair than I guess we're two completely different people.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211934)
WTF she carved a fucking DIAMOND in her chest? Ughh, and the acne isn't too flattering either. Cute girl, could use a little cleaning up.

those kinds of cuts can be done with a scalpel or a brand and are not SUPER uncommon now. it's just one of many body mods.

annaliese 08-20-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211938)
No shit he's not a model, I was talking in general. Yes no one forces them, but if you feel it's fair than I guess we're two completely different people.

like i said-- not what i would do in their position but the girls need to be responsible as well. i am by no means a fan of sg or a supporter of their practices.

Libertine 08-20-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211887)
Honestly dude, you can't recreate what SG has done. Girls growing up now want to get tatt'ed/pierced and be "SG's". They consider themselves art, not porn. And if you hire some content shooter that shoots reality or gonzo or any kind of porn, it's probably not going to be anything real alt/punk people want. Kayden420 is recruiting a lot of SuicideGirls to pose for us since SG only takes a few sets a year from a girl, if that. But recruiting the girls who think it's art is difficult to do for a pornsite.

This.

SG is an incredibly strong brand and a community, not just an adult site. You can't just buy that - at least, not at a reasonable cost.

The only way to do it now would be to go for numbers first. Start a credible online music/geek mag with several good writers, get lots of interviews with underground bands and such, and basically build up the site to become a mainstay of a bunch of subcultures. Add freely accessible artsy nude picture sets as well as band picture sets, and do everything you can to build up a reader base.

If you get lucky, you might be able to switch to a membership model a few years from now. But before that - no dice.

Oh, and you'll probably have to target a slightly different subculture.


hypedough 08-20-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211939)
those kinds of cuts can be done with a scalpel or a brand and are not SUPER uncommon now. it's just one of many body mods.

Yes I know, I was just stating an opinion, not all of my posts need a quote & reply :winkwink:

hypedough 08-20-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16211946)
This.

SG is an incredibly strong brand and a community, not just an adult site. You can't just buy that - at least, not at a reasonable cost.

The only way to do it now would be to go for numbers first. Start a credible online music/geek mag with several good writers, get lots of interviews with underground bands and such, and basically build up the site to become a mainstay of a bunch of subcultures. Add freely accessible artsy nude picture sets as well as band picture sets, and do everything you can to build up a reader base.

If you get lucky, you might be able to switch to a membership model a few years from now. But before that - no dice.

Oh, and you'll probably have to target a slightly different subculture.



+100000000000000000 Libertine is 100% correct.

Mr Pheer 08-20-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 16211886)
thanks for proving my point for me.

You've proved to me that you dont know some of the people here very well.

GFY is full of retards, thats for sure... and some of the best, most capable, and most creative people I've ran across. And you'd be extremely surprised with what some of the more quiet ones here have done or can do.

You may know your niche well, but I know some of the players here well. You'd be very wrong to tell yourself that people here cant pull this off.

Mr Pheer 08-20-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16211946)
This.

SG is an incredibly strong brand and a community, not just an adult site. You can't just buy that - at least, not at a reasonable cost.

The only way to do it now would be to go for numbers first. Start a credible online music/geek mag with several good writers, get lots of interviews with underground bands and such, and basically build up the site to become a mainstay of a bunch of subcultures. Add freely accessible artsy nude picture sets as well as band picture sets, and do everything you can to build up a reader base.

If you get lucky, you might be able to switch to a membership model a few years from now. But before that - no dice.

Oh, and you'll probably have to target a slightly different subculture.

He said a site like it, not a duplicate of it.

Libertine 08-20-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 16211966)
He said a site like it, not a duplicate of it.

What I was talking about is a site like it. A strong community with solid credibility outside of the adult industry.

The adult content might be the reason many people join, but it is only one of the reasons that non-porn girls want to pose on there, that bands will wear their t-shirts, that members stay for a long time, etc.

A site with just alt porn isn't a site like SG. It's just an alt porn site.

Brujah 08-20-2009 03:52 AM

quantum-x might be able to do it

Hank_Heartland 08-20-2009 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 16211880)
LOL, retard!

There are several of us here that could handle that.

I totally agree:thumbsup

Jon Oso 08-20-2009 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 16211887)
Honestly dude, you can't recreate what SG has done. Girls growing up now want to get tatt'ed/pierced and be "SG's". They consider themselves art, not porn. And if you hire some content shooter that shoots reality or gonzo or any kind of porn, it's probably not going to be anything real alt/punk people want. Kayden420 is recruiting a lot of SuicideGirls to pose for us since SG only takes a few sets a year from a girl, if that. But recruiting the girls who think it's art is difficult to do for a pornsite.

Getting inked girls to even do gonzo/amateur stuff is a pain in the ass as is. SG made it a huge bitch getting girls like that to do porn because (at least for me) they all see it as dirty and disgusting to do hardcore or even solo masturbation when SG doesn't do all that, it's more goth-glam.


The end result of SG is beautiful and it would take one HELL of an effort to recreate.

I've shot a couple alt girls here in Phoenix, but like I said it's a bitch to find them even though they are everywhere.

C H R I S 08-20-2009 05:10 AM

Gods Girls did quite well and ruffled alot of feathers over there.... be prepared for legal...... I have someone for you allan.... I'll be in cancun until monday...talk then?

pornguy 08-20-2009 05:19 AM

YOu should get with Amelia and work out some sort of partnership.

Lace 08-20-2009 05:31 AM

I love these types of sites :thumbsup Hell, I should promote 'em more.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2009 05:39 AM

good luck yeah!

C-Luv 08-20-2009 08:46 AM

We can processes for it : )

Pete-KT 08-20-2009 08:48 AM

Good luck allan

WiredGuy 08-20-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16212469)
YOu should get with Amelia and work out some sort of partnership.

That's actually a great suggestion, if she's available to do it, she'd do well.
WG


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