GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Moniker leaking private whois info? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=962407)

CyberHustler 04-07-2010 12:45 PM

Moniker leaking private whois info?
 
Am I the only one this is happening to?

st0ned 04-07-2010 12:46 PM

Care to elaborate? I have a ton of domains with them.

candyflip 04-07-2010 12:49 PM

This is the second thread about this.

Bari from moniker showed up to give the typical nothing is wrong response.

Obviously something IS wrong.

CyberHustler 04-07-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 17013909)
Care to elaborate? I have a ton of domains with them.

Well, I paid for privacy on all my domains with them (like 12 or so) but on one of them I can view my whois info on sites like: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp for some odd reason.

Still waiting on a reply from them about it. This isn't a drama thread, just wanted to know if this has happened to others or am I just an isolated case.

candyflip 04-07-2010 01:00 PM

When I said second thread. It was in the past 24-48 hours.

pradaboy 04-07-2010 01:01 PM

It has been known to happen, although I love Moniker this is an issue they have failed to fix.

st0ned 04-07-2010 01:04 PM

Wow...I was not aware of this. I have privacy on every domain I have with them (800+ domains). So obviously privacy is important to me. If they aren't in fact making them private why in the hell am I paying for privacy or better yet why in the hell am I using them as a registrar? :disgust

candyflip 04-07-2010 01:04 PM

The other thread should be right below this one now.

Fat Panda 04-07-2010 01:06 PM

This has happened to me too, sometimes the whois databases seem just not to update...

SEO Expert 04-07-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17013903)
Am I the only one this is happening to?

This is a well known issue. Has already been discussed before.

Domains moved.

st0ned 04-07-2010 01:09 PM

I just checked about 20 of my domains with Moniker and all show the privacy. I really don't want to do a whois on ALL of them. Did you add privacy at the time of registration or at some point after?

VGeorgie 04-07-2010 01:12 PM

This happened to me when the domains automatically renewed. The privacy didn't. :mad: I had to go back in and manually re-add the privacy. (But of course by then it's too late as many whois services keep a history, down to the day.)

Needless to say I am no longer a Moniker customer, and would never go back to them.

st0ned 04-07-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGeorgie (Post 17014000)
This happened to me when the domains automatically renewed. The privacy didn't. :mad: I had to go back in and manually re-add the privacy. (But of course by then it's too late as many whois services keep a history, down to the day.)

Needless to say I am no longer a Moniker customer, and would never go back to them.

Wow...I am going to check my recently renewed domains now.

seeric 04-07-2010 01:25 PM

if thats the case and it's true, my business goes as well. i have hundreds there.

st0ned 04-07-2010 01:29 PM

I still can't seem to find any with my whois info showing. Though if so many people are having the issue it kinda tarnishes my trust for their privacy service. I am going to keep an eye on this thread...

CyberHustler 04-07-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 17013993)
I just checked about 20 of my domains with Moniker and all show the privacy. I really don't want to do a whois on ALL of them. Did you add privacy at the time of registration or at some point after?

I always get privacy at time of registration and I always make sure to manually set privacy to renew automatically with Moniker because they don't add that in with domain auto renew, it's separate. I paid for privacy, it says "PRIVACY - YES" in my moniker control panel for all domains, yet for one of those domains I can view my whois info.

Klen 04-07-2010 01:41 PM

See this thread:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=961954

pradaboy 04-07-2010 01:42 PM

That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

st0ned 04-07-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17014153)
That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

VGeorgie 04-07-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17014127)
I always make sure to manually set privacy to renew automatically with Moniker because they don't add that in with domain auto renew,

While I *thought* I had this enabled apparently it wasn't, and I can't prove it was. With Network Solutions, GoDaddy, and the other registrars I've used, privacy is always automatically added, and you have to explicitly opt out of it for renewal. That's the only way it makes sense. It's a fairly narrow percentage who would register for an initial period with privacy, then renew without it?

Even if you re-add the privacy after it's lapsed if it was made public even for a day outfits like DomainTools will have cached the ownership info. Anyone willing to pay for their extended service can get a domain ownership history, and it will include your private information.

VGeorgie 04-07-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17014153)
That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

u-Bob 04-07-2010 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17014153)
That's why the only REAL privacy option is an offshore company.

If it's privacy you want: yes, that'll work.
If it's privacy for seo reasons you wants: not a good idea.

d-null 04-07-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGeorgie (Post 17014485)
How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

d-null 04-07-2010 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17014636)
If it's privacy you want: yes, that'll work.
If it's privacy for seo reasons you wants: not a good idea.

if your links are all coming from Godaddy or Moniker privacy domains they might as well all be from the same whois anyways when it comes to an seo linking scheme

I think a much better bet is to use a bunch of different aliases

Varius 04-07-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 17014064)
if thats the case and it's true, my business goes as well. i have hundreds there.

Aside from all the tecnical glitches they often have, be careful they may see a domain of yours they like and put it up for auction without your permission as has happened to myself and three other people I know :1orglaugh

I would just move them.

Cyber Fucker 04-07-2010 04:51 PM

I've just checked mine whois and it looks all fine..

Farang 04-07-2010 05:09 PM

Checking mine...

VGeorgie 04-07-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17014722)
when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

If the alias is only a false name for domain registration then that would be inaccurate information as far as ICANN is concerned. These are arbitrary rules, not laws.

If your alias is commonly used in business or personal matters than it's not inaccurate information.

I was wrong before about a pager number. ICANN requires a voice phone. I use a pay-as-you-go cell phone for these things.

ICANN supposedly requires the full name of the registering party, but companies don't often do that (Microsoft does not, for example), which is why I think it's better to appear as a company rather than a person. It's common practice to then just list yourself as "support" or "administrator." You don't have to file a fictitious business name to be a DBA, unless you want to get checks in that name, and do certain other legal things. If your DBA is filed with your city, county, or state, someone *could* track down who you are.

Agent 488 04-07-2010 06:46 PM

moniker is a joke.

d-null 04-07-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGeorgie (Post 17015015)
If the alias is only a false name for domain registration then that would be inaccurate information as far as ICANN is concerned. These are arbitrary rules, not laws.

If your alias is commonly used in business or personal matters than it's not inaccurate information.

....

where is this ever made a difference? if I use an alias, it doesn't matter when or where I ever used that alias, how is ICANN going to prove one way or another? How can you say it's inaccurate information? If I want to make up a completely fictitious name and use it to register a domain, there is nothing they can do or say about it. If I register a domain under an alias "Joe Jefferson Blough" and have control of that domain, who are they to say that "Joe Jefferson Blough" is an alias or not?

izzynew 04-07-2010 06:51 PM

Hmmm, the other thread seems to have disappeared.
Just checked my Moniker domains and they are private.
But a reverse IP found something interesting. I paid the hosting company where these domains are hosted for a separate IP. But the IP is no longer separate since an 'admin update'.
I'm sick and tired of keeping track of registrars and hosts.
If it's not one fucking up, it's the other. :mad:

CYF 04-07-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 17014162)
Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

just a suggestion, but I use a PO Box ($80/year) which would be way cheaper than the $1600+ you're paying for privacy a year.

HandballJim 04-07-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17015202)
just a suggestion, but I use a PO Box ($80/year) which would be way cheaper than the $1600+ you're paying for privacy a year.

I agree, I've had a PO Box for 20 years and use it for domains and all my personal bills. All privacy means is your slowing down someone who will find out who you are just by requesting your info from the register...and from people spamming your email. I also started an LLC so I can list my company as the registrant in the whois....with a phone number with an answering machine that I rarely answer. for contact I use my nickname and real last name...one of the most popular Italian last names.

Most people need to hide when they are doing something wrong. If you posting your domain on craigslist, facebook, youtube and other mainstream websites to push traffic to adult. you should get your domain revoked.

pradaboy 04-07-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 17014162)
Any suggestions on how to go about setting one up? I would love to save on privacy costs anyway.

Contact me, info in sig.

pradaboy 04-07-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGeorgie (Post 17014485)
How does this work? ICANN rules apply to everyone, not just those in the US. You have to list your real info, or else cover your ownership using a privacy service or a corporate name.

I don't see where ICANN doesn't allow DBAs. That, a PO Box, and a pager number are all you probably need to do your own privacy. As I understand it, the stipulation is that the information has to be accurate. It doesn't have to pinpoint you as a specific human living at 123 Maple Street.

It is privacy if the company name you are using is not publicly tied to your own name.

Domain Diva 04-07-2010 11:54 PM

Although many options exsist from LLC to post office boxes etc many are either time consuming or costly and have weak links enabling your infomation to be obtained.

Depending on the level of security required if anyone would like details of the service I recommend to my clients that offers a 100 percent guaranteed ring of steel around your identity from a swiss based company specialising in this ( you know what the swiss are like !) let me know at [email protected]

Prices are very reasonable ranging from 7.95 per domain down to $1.99 for big portfolio holders........:) and of course you still keep your domains at your regular registrar etc



Ps..They are also starting up an affiliate program shortly if anyone wants info let me know.

AmeliaG 04-08-2010 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberClaire (Post 17015608)
Although many options exsist from LLC to post office boxes etc many are either time consuming or costly and have weak links enabling your infomation to be obtained.

Depending on the level of security required if anyone would like details of the service I recommend to my clients that offers a 100 percent guaranteed ring of steel around your identity from a swiss based company specialising in this ( you know what the swiss are like !) let me know at [email protected]

Prices are very reasonable ranging from 7.95 per domain down to $1.99 for big portfolio holders........:) and of course you still keep your domains at your regular registrar etc



Ps..They are also starting up an affiliate program shortly if anyone wants info let me know.


I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

The idea that anything on a registrar might not autorenew, when autorenew is checked, is worrisome. Has this really happened a lot with Moniker?

Domain Diva 04-08-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17015645)
I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

Just email me anytime Amelia, then I have a contact point.

Thanks

TheDA 04-08-2010 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17014722)
when does ICANN ever demand I.D.? And there is no law against using an alias as long as you aren't doing it to commit crime. Why pay for privacy when all you have to do is make up an alias and use that?

I tend to agree with VGeorgie on this.

I am of the understanding that the registrant name should be canonical (I think that is the term they tend to use) which means no aliases.

If it's in their terms and you did somehow get found out, I think they would have grounds for suspension or whatever.

aniloscash 04-08-2010 02:31 AM

I read a names cheap thread about them shutting down a domain with dmca
2) godaddy on going issues with adult
3) moniker leaking whois

so who is left? I personally have had 0 problems with all 3 of these guys.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:13 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123