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Canada set the introduce New Digital Copyright Law.
Looks like they are gonna introduce a tough copyright bill.
There is talk about very stiff Criminal Code violations with it... if they do then it looks like the RCMP will investigate instead of having to send DMCA's for those company's running tubes out of Canada ;) |
where did hear or read about this?
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This would be bad for pornhub.
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Giedeon's from Canada
Cue gideongallery in 5....4...3...
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Its the beginning of the end for illegal tubes,torrents-
There are many countries introducing new legislation right now, this coinciding with new lawsuits coming out every week... |
Good, the US needs to crack down as well.
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Any links to information on this new law?
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I like Canada
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LOLz if you people think tubes are going anywhere you are tripping, do you people have any idea how huge of a money maker these sites are?
if you think for 2 seconds that these sites/companies do not have the top lawyers watching over them and willing to do whatever it takes to keep them going you are tripping, tubes are going no where and dominate the market never get it twisted. where money is to be made it will be made. the people who are willing the take REAL risks are the ones that make the real money. if you think a law of any sorts is going to stop this you are only lieing to yourself. money talks and bullshit walks, all you people can hate all you want but you do not have the bankroll that these sites do so no matter how captain noble you want to pretend you are you will never make a dent in their business. |
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when the vcr was made legal the MPAA went to congress and got them to criminalize them again all they had to do was tell them that the vcr was to american content producer as the boston strangler was to women alone and the congress blindly followed and setup all the import duties asked for. oh wait that never happened. we are on the verge of a new fair use it will not get reverse it will not change what you have to do is get your head out of your ass and start figuiring out how to make money under the new market conditions. turn tubes and torrents into the distribution channel it can be just like the movie industry finally did with the vcr when they got their heads out of their asses. |
i think your thinking about bill c-61
which was scraped when micheal geist got 60,000 people to send in complaints to their MP. http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=582892 really old news once the bad clauses (anti circumvention, explictly codified fair use, take down with no counter liability) were removed and new rights were wrapped in with a fair use notwithstanding clause CIRA bitched and whinned calling it a toothless law not worth the paper it was written on. Amazingly they refused to give up the piracy tax money which most consumer groups said they should give up if they wanted more american style copyright protection. |
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Tube sites steal our money/traffic:pimp
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i highly doubt canada will be the country to lay the smackdown on tubes. hell, its still legal to spam here.
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Oh no, wait a mo, it hasn't at all! |
so tubes will go offshore
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no one like tubes? :)
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Gideon
is this fair use you are referring to: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&n...=&oq=&gs_rfai= ? movies playing in theaters, next thing you know millions viewing them online for free next day. fair use? thats just one example |
The key is. To TAKE their domain after many infractions.
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no one ever in threads like this one suggested to take away your, mine, our VCR rights for personal use.
but majority here recognizes there's a problem with safe harbor being used in advantage by pirates and them freely distributing copyrighted material with out a license to distribute it until copyright holder finds and sends DCMA with millions downloading or streaming till its uncovered. simply not reasonable enough. |
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If everyone is downloading cams of films, how come hollywood announced record breaking profits for the last two years in a row? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/f...s-in-2009.html I don't get it? |
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it has nothing to do with profits or shitty quality. are you saying you have a right to come to theater record the whole movie, put it on some streaming site plastered with ads stream to millions of others just because you paid ticket price? is this fair use? same applies to dvd rips and anything else. streaming site not responsible for whats on their site, its clever. |
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What people can't seem to realize is, the big corporations have major power/influence and the legal big guns. If you think they are taking shots in the dark going after these illegal torrents/tubes you need to wake the fuck up. |
The money involved with adult tubes is chicken scratch compared to the dollars involved in the Viacom vs. Google lawsuit and the impact the decision will have on the DCMA. The legal battle for adult tubes will be won our lost without ever hearing from either side. The longer Google can hold a decision up in court, the longer illegal tubes will have to survive. Most experts agree Google can't win, but many feel they aren't looking for a win just proceedings that lasts forever.
That being said, I think the clock is ticking for tubes. Once Viacom gets their billion dollar decision against Google, illegal tubes will head for the hills because the risk of running an illegal tube wont be worth the reward like it is now. If by some crazy turn of events Google wins, OUR time will be a lot better spent populating mainstream tubes with all the music, movies and television shows we can get our hands on. |
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the problem is that 1/2 the torrent transaction (seeding) is /should be the protected act of backup. You can create x-1 complete points of redundancy BEFORE a single infringing copy could potentially be created. With tv shows representing 49% of all torrent traffic, and movies which air on tv being another 7-11% a majority of the downloads are the basically using the swarm like A VCR. The penalty for making a bogus /fair use infringing takedown request is not serious enough. IT should be 3 times the damages claimed. |
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laws can be as tough as they want, if their is money to be made it will be made. Tubes have shown that their is money to be made. they are going no where no matter how tough laws get. come back to this thread in even 5 years and lets see if all the tubes are gone because of "tougher laws". |
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funny thing is if access shifting had been established in grokster case we would have had that innovation years ago. Theaters should have 3-d without the stupid glasses, 12.1 surround sound instead a theater is just a bigger version of what you can see in your own home. innovation was crushed because of draconion copyright monopoly. Quote:
if access shifting had happened when it was first proposed, then movie theaters would have had to add value to the showing (3-d, 12.1 surround sounds, smell-o-vision) that would have made going to a movie an experience you could not get with a shitty cam. billions of dollars of jobs would have been created in the production of real physical goods (cameras that record in 42 bit color etc) Quote:
The problem is when a fair use right is established in the courts it OVERRIDES the previous laws. And the voters will sack any politician who trys to reverse the trend. |
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there are no laws that are going to change anything. a new model will just spring up. it boils down to money. if there is an opportunity to make money someone somewhere is going to do it no matter what the risks involved. |
Gideon, you haven't answered my questions. i'm not interested in your vcr story, call it ignorance if you want. making one copy for yourself or a friend on a tape does not give you right to distribute it to millions and does not give some random 3rd party to do it without obtaining license for distribute that copy. unlike you I recognize there is an issue with piracy on massive scale and do hope and believe that it will get tougher for pirates to deal on the web with time. i'm sure your VCR rights won't be changed. Hollywood didn't give PirateBay right to be their redundant backup solution, so who gives them the right, is it instant because you purchased Win7 or Avatar you can share your copy with world on premises of redundant backup? wake the fuck up.
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