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BFT3K 07-12-2010 01:24 PM

More Right Wing Hypocrisy
 
Top Senate Republican Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) insisted on Sunday that Congress should extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans regardless of their impact on the deficit, even as he and other Republicans are blocking unemployment insurance extensions over deficit concerns.

Story continues here...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...2862.html?sc=1

BestXXXPorn 07-12-2010 01:27 PM

There isn't an ounce of hypocrisy in there... apples and oranges... check out how unemployment insurance works first...

on top of that... yes the tax cuts should be extended PERMANENTLY... The government needs to learn how to tax less and spend less... not tax more and spend even more...

BFT3K 07-12-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17329525)
There isn't an ounce of hypocrisy in there... apples and oranges... check out how unemployment insurance works first...

It works like this...

The money people receive from unemployment is INSTANTLY spent, and INSTANTLY stimulates the economy.

The tax money saved by the rich, does not.

That's how it works. :2 cents:

BestXXXPorn 07-12-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329542)
It works like this...

The money people receive from unemployment is INSTANTLY spent, and INSTANTLY stimulates the economy.

The tax money saved by the rich, does not.

That's how it works. :2 cents:

Money from unemployment doesn't stimulate the fucking economy... and I'm talking about where the funds come from... one comes from the pockets of a citizen to the pocket of the government... one comes from the pockets of companies to the pockets of FORMER employees...

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329542)
It works like this...

The money people receive from unemployment is INSTANTLY spent, and INSTANTLY stimulates the economy.

The tax money saved by the rich, does not.

That's how it works. :2 cents:

Then end the income tax NOW and stop taking peoples money WEEKLY and that would be spent NOW. Talk about hypocrisy of the left :winkwink:

DateDoc 07-12-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329520)
Top Senate Republican Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) insisted on Sunday that Congress should extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans regardless of their impact on the deficit, even as he and other Republicans are blocking unemployment insurance extensions over deficit concerns.

Story continues here...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...2862.html?sc=1

If the Bush tax cuts are not extended you do realize the poorest tax payers will see a 50% increase in their tax bill as the lowest tax rate will go from 10% to 15%?

Tom_PM 07-12-2010 01:44 PM

The top percent still pay less than they did under Reagan, so how about we get them back to that level. Surely that is fair?

mgtarheels 07-12-2010 01:46 PM

People like you need to at least take Economics 101. Clearly you have 0 understanding.

IllTestYourGirls 07-12-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17329596)
If the Bush tax cuts are not extended you do realize the poorest tax payers will see a 50% increase in their tax bill as the lowest tax rate will go from 10% to 15%?

I was going to post that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17329597)
The top percent still pay less than they did under Reagan, so how about we get them back to that level. Surely that is fair?

The only fair income tax is no tax. :2 cents:

BestXXXPorn 07-12-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17329597)
The top percent still pay less than they did under Reagan, so how about we get them back to that level. Surely that is fair?

The only thing even remotely close to "fair" is the Fair-Tax...

Pay tax on what you consume... no ifs/ands/buts about it. You buy big toys, you pay more in taxes...

Abolish income tax it's completely unconstitutional... it's legal slavery.

Tom_PM 07-12-2010 01:49 PM

I bet we'd almost all agree that the US income tax system sucks. Even the IRS will probably register just to agree with that.

u-Bob 07-12-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329542)
It works like this...

The money people receive from unemployment is INSTANTLY spent, and INSTANTLY stimulates the economy.

The tax money saved by the rich, does not.

That's how it works. :2 cents:

Really?

Taxes and spending that money on unemployed people = redistribution of wealth. Aside from being totally unethical it's also completely counterproductive. I recommend you read the paper Hans Hermann Hoppe wrote on 'Time Preference'.

Money saved (by the poor, by the rich,.... by people who worked (produced a product or provided a service)...) is money that can be invested in the economy.

BFT3K 07-12-2010 01:56 PM

I like that the righties on this board were happy to state that the poor do not pay any federal taxes, but somehow their non-existent federal taxes will now go up, if the Bush tax cuts for the rich, expire. Good stuff!

By the way, here is a graph of US tax rates over the years...

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont...9/03/graph.jpg

Holy shit! Obama's tax rate proposal is RADICAL!!

He must be a socialist, like Reagan!

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17329597)
The top percent still pay less than they did under Reagan, so how about we get them back to that level. Surely that is fair?

Dear idiot, Reagan lowered taxes from a higher level. The only people interested in higher taxes are those who get a free handout at the expense of others.
I love how the trash see their betters.

BFT3K 07-12-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17329656)
Dear idiot, Reagan lowered taxes from a higher level. The only people interested in higher taxes are those who get a free handout at the expense of others.
I love how the trash see their betters.

Not according to reality, but hey, this is GFY, right?

Obama is following the paths of former presidents when it comes to balancing the budget...

http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/bar...b-shapiro.html

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329646)
I like that the righties on this board were happy to state that the poor do not pay any federal taxes, but somehow their non-existent federal taxes will now go up, if the Bush tax cuts for the rich, expire. Good stuff!

By the way, here is a graph of US tax rates over the years...

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont...9/03/graph.jpg

Holy shit! Obama's tax rate proposal is RADICAL!!

He must be a socialist, like Reagan!

Dear idiot, you confuse the bottom of our barrel who pay nothing (like yourself) with those in the lower tax brackets who actually do pay.

TheSenator 07-12-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329646)
I like that the righties on this board were happy to state that the poor do not pay any federal taxes, but somehow their non-existent federal taxes will now go up, if the Bush tax cuts for the rich, expire. Good stuff!

By the way, here is a graph of US tax rates over the years...

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont...9/03/graph.jpg

Holy shit! Obama's tax rate proposal is RADICAL!!

He must be a socialist, like Reagan!

The teabaggers/right wingers/child molsters/republican/ don't deal with the facts. The make up their own realities.

BFT3K 07-12-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17329668)
Dear idiot, you confuse the bottom of our barrel who pay nothing (like yourself) with those in the lower tax brackets who actually do pay.

As you have no idea who I am or what I pay, perhaps you can go fuck yourself.

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329664)
Not according to reality,

Dear idiot, Reagan was president from 81-89. Compare those dates with your graph.
There's a reason you've accomplished so little in life and it's in display in this thread.

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329681)
As you have no idea who I am or what I pay, perhaps you can go fuck yourself.

Wha you are and what you pay is very evident by your unintelligent posts.
Trust me.

Vendzilla 07-12-2010 02:12 PM

Yeah, got to tax more people period to keep the Obamacare and the Obamadebt funded don't we? Obamanation demands it.

Good economics to spend more than we have, then just tax more to catch up, the rich don't need it, they are just the small business's that employ others, if they get taxed more, they can just spend less on employee's, right?

Funny how Reagan got the economy going again by cutting taxes and Obama is trying the other approach, is it working yet?

Obama has grown the size of the government
Reagan made this statement about that
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem."

BFT3K 07-12-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17329687)
Dear idiot, Reagan was president from 81-89. Compare those dates with your graph.
There's a reason you've accomplished so little in life and it's in display in this thread.

Dear Asswipe,

How about you GO FUCK YOURSELF!

You have no idea what you are talking about, and you are a scumbag.

Face the facts. :thumbsup

You must be a treat to hang with, but I am sure with your confrontational mindset, you are a loser and a loner... unless maybe you're a member of a gay circle jerk group with the demon.:2 cents:

Vendzilla 07-12-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17329719)
The problem here is the government can't manage the tax revenue. I don't think they should increase taxes on anyone and it's well past the time we Americans should toughen the fuck up.

Mass socialism does not fucking work and all we are doing now is preventing the inevitable. All this is (unemployment insurance) is the Dems trying to stay in public favor and delay past the next election. It has nothing to do with Bush tax cuts or how the Republicans are trying to block unemployment insurance. It's all about a political party staying in power and how our Government will sacrifice the American peoples future to do so. :2 cents:

Thats pretty much their plan as I see it, when has unemployment ever paid out past 99 weeks before?

TheSenator 07-12-2010 02:23 PM

What will it take for another American revolution?

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329699)
Dear Asswipe,

How about you GO FUCK YOURSELF!

You have no idea what you are talking about, and you are a scumbag.

Face the facts. :thumbsup

You must be a treat to hang with, but I am sure with your confrontational mindset, you are a loser and a loner... unless maybe you're a member of a gay circle jerk group with the demon.:2 cents:

Ahh yes, how the pigs do squeal when confronted with facts.:1orglaugh

12clicks 07-12-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17329733)
What will it take for another American revolution?

As soon as the eat the rich crowd start to go hungry.
It will be fun to watch

Brujah 07-12-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17329733)
What will it take for another American revolution?

A revolution of the people? People are too well-fed today. Need a lot more hungry people first, and then they'll start to eat the rich.

A revolution within? Would need several states to pull out together?

fatfoo 07-12-2010 02:33 PM

I think it make sense for rich people to pay big taxes and poor people pay small taxes. If you put a big tax on the poor, they might starve to death.

BFT3K 07-12-2010 02:43 PM

Let's look at how the right plans to win back the White House in 2012...

? Vote against healthcare reform.
? Call Obama a socialist.
? Apologize for the BP oil spill.
? Compare Obama to Hitler.
? Vote against unemployment extensions.
? State that Obama is not a US citizen.
? Vote against Wall Street reform.
? Flipflop on all GOP proposals that Obama presents.
? Start a racist fringe group called the Tea Party.
? Defend the upper 2% of the wealthiest, no matter what.
? Compare Obama to Carter.
? Vote against immigration reform.

Guess who gets re-elected in 2012?

Nice formula! - I love it!

Please run Palin to seal the deal!

baddog 07-12-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329542)
It works like this...

The money people receive from unemployment is INSTANTLY spent, and INSTANTLY stimulates the economy.

The tax money saved by the rich, does not.

That's how it works. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17329680)
The teabaggers/right wingers/child molsters/republican/ don't deal with the facts. The make up their own realities.

One of the only people that can make BFT3K come off as intelligent.

Vendzilla 07-12-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17329765)
It's a fucking joke. What upsets me the most is the reinstatement of the death tax. That is just unbelievable to me. You work your whole life and pay taxes every step of the way, then build an estate that should be given to your family to better their lives and then 50% of it's taxed. Again!

My mom has a couple pensions and has some money in IRA's and CD's , because of the interest rate the government puts out, you're lucky to get above 1% on your savings, so the people that acted conservatively with their money are fucked

BFT3K 07-12-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17329787)
One of the only people that can make BFT3K come off as intelligent.

http://www.FetishSoup.com/GFY/idiot.jpg

12clicks 07-12-2010 03:07 PM

When your first line of bullshit gets shot down, come out with a new line.
:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329775)
Let's look at how the right plans to win back the White House in 2012...

? Vote against healthcare reform.
? Call Obama a socialist.
? Apologize for the BP oil spill.
? Compare Obama to Hitler.
? Vote against unemployment extensions.
? State that Obama is not a US citizen.
? Vote against Wall Street reform.
? Flipflop on all GOP proposals that Obama presents.
? Start a racist fringe group called the Tea Party.
? Defend the upper 2% of the wealthiest, no matter what.
? Compare Obama to Carter.
? Vote against immigration reform.

Guess who gets re-elected in 2012?

Nice formula! - I love it!

Please run Palin to seal the deal!


Vendzilla 07-12-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17329775)
Let's look at how the right plans to win back the White House in 2012...

? Vote against healthcare reform.
? Call Obama a socialist.
? Apologize for the BP oil spill.
? Compare Obama to Hitler.
? Vote against unemployment extensions.
? State that Obama is not a US citizen.
? Vote against Wall Street reform.
? Flipflop on all GOP proposals that Obama presents.
? Start a racist fringe group called the Tea Party.
? Defend the upper 2% of the wealthiest, no matter what.
? Compare Obama to Carter.
? Vote against immigration reform.

Guess who gets re-elected in 2012?

Nice formula! - I love it!

Please run Palin to seal the deal!

1) work on a healthcare that everyone reads before signing
2) I called him an asshole, lets get it straight
3) NO, that would be Obama appoligizing for everything our country did before Obamanation got here
4) LIke you didn't compare Bush to someone?
5) Whens the last time we had unemployment for 99 weeks? Better to get people working than putting a bandaid on it
6) Yeah some people think his real name is Barry Soetoro, they did call him Barry in college
7) I would have liked it better if both sides could have agreed on this
8) Proposals like don't vote for that healthcare bill, we can't afford it, nor can anyone read or understand all of it, but Pelosi said they are going to vote on it anyways?
9) LOL, nice claim, unfounded several times, but the only racist that I'm concerned about is Obama
10) They do supply the jobs, seems to be a shortage of that lately
11) To Carter? Carter was just worthless, Obama is far more dangerous
12) Reform is ok, just secure the fucking border first, is that too much to ask?

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2010 03:40 PM

I gave up trying to talk sense to right wing fruitcakes. Life is too short and arguing about this kind of crap doesn't advance me in life in any way. So, not going to spend any more of it smacking my forehead with a brick. I spent half a year "giving a shit" and debating all this shit for the sake of interactive experience, but now I'm going back to Plan A: Take care of #1 and fuck the rest of the world.... I'm done giving a shit. The world can now continue being all fucked up, without my input on it. Good luck. :rasta

cykoe6 07-12-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17329596)
If the Bush tax cuts are not extended you do realize the poorest tax payers will see a 50% increase in their tax bill as the lowest tax rate will go from 10% to 15%?

What I was going to say. :thumbsup

12clicks 07-12-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17329596)
If the Bush tax cuts are not extended you do realize the poorest tax payers will see a 50% increase in their tax bill as the lowest tax rate will go from 10% to 15%?

Id love to see the people who voted for obama get what they deserve instead of what they want.

TheDoc 07-12-2010 04:07 PM

Of course we need to correct the mistaken tax cuts... it hurt us and yep, people will probably have to pay more.... go back to the way it was just 10 years ago, yep those bad times we all made shit loads of money! Obama said he would be doing this during the campaign, with cheers that followed.

And yep, we got pay for the healthcare plan coming out that the majority of Americans wanted and Obama campaigned on and actually brought to the people that were go nuts shit happy when he talked about it.

The more the money flow happens the less it bottlenecks money and the better the economy will do. Like history has proven, increase the taxes first, force the money to move then we can balance it out and lower them back. But what we had wasn't 'back' it was too damn low and hurting the money flow - what Obama is doing is putting it back to the point when the Economy did its best - like logic says you should.

Sausage 07-12-2010 04:17 PM

Increase taxes on the rich (who already pay most of your taxes for you) .. not a good idea. Eventually it reaches a point where they say "fuck you" and move everything offshore to one of those hundreds of countries that know taxing the rich too much is a bad bad idea.

Gotta love the sense of entitlement from the poor.

TheDoc 07-12-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17330010)
Increase taxes on the rich (who already pay most of your taxes for you) .. not a good idea. Eventually it reaches a point where they say "fuck you" and move everything offshore to one of those hundreds of countries that know taxing the rich too much is a bad bad idea.

Gotta love the sense of entitlement from the poor.

Here, if you're an American you pay global tax on money earned, you report your income either way otherwise it's criminal. Some rules change a little once you live off shore, but if you live here you can make all the money you want some place else and you're still paying taxes, unless you're not the majority owner - but you would for any direct income earned.

The taxes aren't increasing, they're simply going back to a previous level. A level which did not have rich people running from our Country but making the most money ever in history.

Just 5-8 years before that, taxes were crazy higher than they will be returning to... again, they didn't leave the Country and during that time the economy sucked for a good bit too. But as always it helps boost things and turn it around for the future.


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