Post Number 450 :)

lol, Thats pretty freaky mate.

;)

One more time.. For reference...

The Seach function has been back for a few days now mate try it again.

Bump for easy reference.

thanks, a real nice guide..

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zz, how hard do you think it would be to grow a site like that but without the skim just toplist trades ?

and are there pros and cons besides the difficulty of rasing traffic

I emailed you for comus installation but no response :(

you do realize that godaddy is the largest registrar, having passed even network solutions a few months ago? not recommending them, although i use them for some domains because no other registrar seems to be able to create a workable advanced administration interface, just pointing out that your facts are not ;]

1. You should see the how old this thread is.

2. Do not register with Go Daddy or other cheap places! Register with the big companies. They charge more but you won't get fucked over.

Where in that sentence did I say go daddy wasn't big? "Do not register with Go Daddy or other cheap places! Register with the big companies. They charge more but you won't get fucked over"

I said Do not register with Go Daddy or other Cheap Places! Thats what I said about them. Then in the next sentence I said register with big companies. I called Go Daddy cheap... nowhere did I call it small.

3. Thanks for the bump

It shouldn't be too hard. Just expect to put alot of time into the site.

Pros: Better Quality traffic both in and out. Better sales. Surfers have a better visit when they come to your site.

Cons: Time Consuming, Might be harder to grow at certain sizes. Will be very hard to grow after a certain point.

have you done a traffic trading write up? I'd love to read it if you have. Hell, I'd pay for it.

OK ZZGunz, I'm on phase-I and I see no one is really implementing this tut. Or should I say they're not reporting any progress or how things are going. I had to get my money right cuz I want to purchase at least 500K traffic. The site name is gonna be www.guaranteedpussy.com I'm using autogallery for rotation. I'll keep you in tune on the progress. I'm applying what this tut is about. I've broken down the science on what you wrote as well as what I've experienced. You've wrote a solid tut, I'm gonna write a progress os how the site is doing like a month or so from now...

If anyone applied this wonderful tut, post what you think and how its been treating you...

Honestly I think alot of people didn't make it. I left a key component from my tutorial which is Traffic Trading. Thats where alot of people get stuck.

The people that do make it just don't care I guess. I know a few people that I've personally helped and made it but have never posted their results. Even though I've helped them for free and in return have only asked them to post.

hey zz, your tutorial has been most informative.. i've added you to my icq.. i have a few questions to ask you.. if you dont get my add, add me 30601395

Cheers,
Joel

ok, i read the tut, made a page, installed ct & ATL, and i'm almost ready to go.
is there something still missing? i'm buying a couple of K traffic for testing, if all goes well i'll increase the amount.

this is my first TGP, i've done some gallery submitting & weblogs before.

so i'll let you know wheter or not it worked out for me ;)

http://www.pornle.com

Great thread ZZ.....

I will be short here,listen to what he says about "traffic"

If you dont play ya script well,u will suck big time....

And only script you can go big with its paid script,like www.arrowscript.com

I am straight,but running some tgps in gay section,it took me 2 mnth to reach 50k,and 3 mnths to reach 70k,and in gay market,thats pretty huge guys :)

Use a lots of ya time,to experiment with ya traffic script,what ya amigo does,will maybe not suit ya site.

Play-experiment-find ya traffic,find ya sponsor who convert,and get drunk and be happy.....

PS> if you dont have at least 5-6 our a day for 3 mnth avaible,skipp it :thumbsup

ZZ>gonna hit ya up on icq !

I though you made it clear on the proper way to trade. On lesson B of your initial post. You spoke on buying unfiltered traffic-100K and up and how to force...

So there's another strategy you left out?

Theres alot I left out. Thats just a small outline. Honestly traffic trading deserves a guide in itself.

I haven't "made it" yet, but www.teentropic.com was born because of this thread and it is also the reason why i decided to give it a shot.

The hardest part is getting good trades going and keeping them productive. I have no intentions to give up, so i guess i will eventually learn on my own how to run trades and the other aspects of a TGP.

The site is a little over a month old and it only has around 1.5k visits a day, but the prod is around 300%. The thumbs are still being worked on.

Thanks to zzgundamzz for writing this tutorial. :thumbsup

Your site is 404. Did you give up?

No it's not, must have been some downtime with the host or a glitch on your end.

Yeah you were just down for a few minutes. You should keep adding trades to grow your site.

Yeah, that's what i've been doing. :)

Ay Nightwind, can you keep me up to date oo how your progress is vi this tut? I want to know a success story or a failed story (via this tut)... ANY commentry is welcomed...

Sure, i will try to report my progress once a month or so.

Whether good or bad it would be much appreciated.

Great Thread
 

This is a great thread!

Wish i would have found this earlyer! I just finished setting up comus and TTT when i found this thread. Basicly i did how you advised it, exept i set 2 sites up on a shared hosting account.. :Oh crap

Didnt buy any traffic yet, was just about to when i read this post.. Should i move my 2 TGP's to a dedi, or do you think its a good way to try and see how this goes, and move to a dedi if everything goes well?

I never really beleived in skimming TGP's, as i would never bookmark one myself, but i know there are many out there that do well, so im going to do a little test.. Im setting up 2 exactly the same sites ( one.COM and one .NET site) on the .NET site all clicks will go to galleries, while on the .COM there will be skimming..

I expect the .COM site to grow a lot faster, since more traffic will go to trades, and i can expect more in return.
The .NET site will be a lot harder to grow, but will have more quality traffic ( i expect/hope )

Im really curios to see wich site will be more profitable..

Why i dont like skimming:
Compare it with an afternoon shopping in a mall.. You walk infront of a store witch doesnt even interest you, someone is standing before the door and beats you in there BANG BANG, once your in BANG, the personell beats you again to pick something you didnt want in the first place... should i continue?

Ps. if someone is interested to help me set up the scripts and integrate it into my layout please contact me via ICQ! 253724898

Well obviously you didn't understand anything you've read in this thread.

i do UNDERSTAND it, i dont LIKE it, there is a difference there!

I dont like it from surfers point of view, but im going to try it becourse of this thread

You DONT understant it. How do I know because of your example. Hell that example tells me you don't even know how to trade properly. Take it as you will.

Why i dont like skimming:
Compare it with an afternoon shopping in a mall.. You walk infront of a store witch doesnt even interest you, someone is standing before the door and beats you in there BANG BANG, once your in BANG, the personell beats you again to pick something you didnt want in the first place... should i continue?

Read your example again and then think about trading+skimming before you type out a response and think for a second. If you figured it out good. If you didn't proceed to type out your response.

this thread needs to die :)

Started 6-23 -2004

bump becuase I love this thread

Damn, I've gotta take a leak..

Giving this a bump.

Should be all the way online by the end of the week...

Here's the template for it:
www.vanillacreamgirls.com

Amazing thread, rare actually.

BUMP

I start my tgp
www.hollygalleries.com
and i send 100k traffic from free hosting 404 pages.
Now when traffic is end i have about 100-200 uniq hits to my tgp site ;<
Why? I have a lot fo traders some have >100% productive

great post

bump for an oldie wanna see this have atleast 500 posts before it sinks.

bump for a great tutorial by a great guy :)

I won't let it sink. :) I've started using Comus and although I'm just learning it I can tell it's powerful stuff. Thanks again for sharing your info. Other Comus users are pretty generous with their knowledge too. It's good to see some genuine altruism in the world.

This thread won't go away. ;)

bump

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bump.
great thread.
well done gundamn

This is a great tut! Thanks ZZ for taking the time to write it!

Now for my question...what's the minimum server requirements needed to run a thumb TGP or thumb MGP using sponsor hosted (or FHGs, whichever you want to call them) and/or partner submitted galleries (either way the links are hosted off my server)?
LelaHosting has some great virtual hosting deals and so does HighCountryHosting ...but i'm not sure of what i'm going to need as far bandwidth transfer...20 gigs too low?

I'm thinking somewhere between 50 -100 gigs?

75% is going to be sponsor hosted galleries and 25% partner submits.

I also want to have one using 100% sponsor hosted galls.

I'm leaning towards HCH because they'll install Comus and TTT for me...thus saving me the trouble of that hurdle.

so to summarize, i just need to know:

What's the minimum server requirements (disc space, bandwidth transfer amount, speed and etc.) needed for a TGP or an MGP just starting up?

I have no idea where to start as far as paid hosting needs...i've been using freehosts since day one and i'd rather be on a more reliable server and paid is definetly better supported than a free one.

My apologies if i'm rambling.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! :thumbsup

couldn't let it die!
 

Hey I just had to add my thoughts on this textfile...it was great!

BTW, hello to all you fuckers!

I can't wait to start making some money! Thanx again



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Q: Is there any money in selling domain names? Not a whole bunch, just a single domain name. Do people still buy one at a time?

Interesting thread. I just kinda stumbled upon this by accident and wound up reading it for almost an hour!

Question for ZZ... why do you say not to use a virtual hosting plan? Too much traffic?

-b

P.S. Hopefully ZZ will be the next to post (500)... seems appropriate :)

Why not use virtual hosting?

1. Some scripts are cpu hungry. Using two of them on a machine with a few dozen accounts just slows everything down.

2. I know for a fact that some people put 30+ virtual accounts on a Pentium 4 machine.

3. Alot of virtual accounts can't handle the traffic. Either because the machine is too overcrowded. Or because the bandwidth gets congested Picture this 50 people are directed to your site but only 25 of them have a satisfactory load rate.

Now if something like this were to be happening there would be a domino effect. For example your trades sending you the right amount of traffic but the traffic is not getting to you. Therefore you X the trade for being bad.

4. Some of the popular scripts need shell access and other server priveleges. They usually won't give you that access because of security reasons.