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zzgundamnzz

07-26-2005 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pzelf

i do UNDERSTAND it, i dont LIKE it, there is a difference there!

I dont like it from surfers point of view, but im going to try it becourse of this thread

You DONT understant it. How do I know because of your example. Hell that example tells me you don't even know how to trade properly. Take it as you will.

Why i dont like skimming:
Compare it with an afternoon shopping in a mall.. You walk infront of a store witch doesnt even interest you, someone is standing before the door and beats you in there BANG BANG, once your in BANG, the personell beats you again to pick something you didnt want in the first place... should i continue?

Read your example again and then think about trading+skimming before you type out a response and think for a second. If you figured it out good. If you didn't proceed to type out your response.

vvq	07-26-2005 09:26 AM

this thread needs to die :)

zzgundamnzz

07-26-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvq

this thread needs to die :)

Started 6-23 -2004

NickRac

08-03-2005 11:26 PM

bump becuase I love this thread

Realpascal

08-11-2005 10:55 PM

Damn, I've gotta take a leak..

zzgundamnzz

08-14-2005 03:07 PM

Giving this a bump.

Playa-Deak

08-14-2005 09:06 PM

Should be all the way online by the end of the week...

Here's the template for it:
www.vanillacreamgirls.com

(Gk)	08-16-2005 01:26 PM

Amazing thread, rare actually.

BUMP

lucas131

08-16-2005 02:45 PM

I start my tgp
www.hollygalleries.com
and i send 100k traffic from free hosting 404 pages.
Now when traffic is end i have about 100-200 uniq hits to my tgp site ;<
Why? I have a lot fo traders some have >100% productive

wvuatl

08-17-2005 03:29 PM

great post

zzgundamnzz

08-23-2005 06:05 PM

bump for an oldie wanna see this have atleast 500 posts before it sinks.

Dynamix

08-23-2005 06:30 PM

bump for a great tutorial by a great guy :)

Al Gomez

08-24-2005 05:12 PM

I won't let it sink. :) I've started using Comus and although I'm just learning it I can tell it's powerful stuff. Thanks again for sharing your info. Other Comus users are pretty generous with their knowledge too. It's good to see some genuine altruism in the world.

carbs

08-25-2005 07:05 PM

This thread won't go away. ;)

(Gk)	08-26-2005 02:07 AM

bump

5678

martinsc

08-28-2005 10:33 AM

bump.
great thread.
well done gundamn

babydred

08-29-2005 01:09 AM

This is a great tut! Thanks ZZ for taking the time to write it!

Now for my question...what's the minimum server requirements needed to run a thumb TGP or thumb MGP using sponsor hosted (or FHGs, whichever you want to call them) and/or partner submitted galleries (either way the links are hosted off my server)?
LelaHosting has some great virtual hosting deals and so does HighCountryHosting ...but i'm not sure of what i'm going to need as far bandwidth transfer...20 gigs too low?

I'm thinking somewhere between 50 -100 gigs?

75% is going to be sponsor hosted galleries and 25% partner submits.

I also want to have one using 100% sponsor hosted galls.

I'm leaning towards HCH because they'll install Comus and TTT for me...thus saving me the trouble of that hurdle.

so to summarize, i just need to know:

What's the minimum server requirements (disc space, bandwidth transfer amount, speed and etc.) needed for a TGP or an MGP just starting up?

I have no idea where to start as far as paid hosting needs...i've been using freehosts since day one and i'd rather be on a more reliable server and paid is definetly better supported than a free one.

My apologies if i'm rambling.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! :thumbsup

Bobby_the_pyn

08-29-2005 02:43 AM

couldn't let it die!

Hey I just had to add my thoughts on this textfile...it was great!

BTW, hello to all you fuckers!

I can't wait to start making some money! Thanx again

*******
Q: Is there any money in selling domain names? Not a whole bunch, just a single domain name. Do people still buy one at a time?

'elloBrian

08-29-2005 04:21 AM

Interesting thread. I just kinda stumbled upon this by accident and wound up reading it for almost an hour!

Question for ZZ... why do you say not to use a virtual hosting plan? Too much traffic?

-b

P.S. Hopefully ZZ will be the next to post (500)... seems appropriate :)

zzgundamnzz

08-29-2005 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'elloBrian

Why not use virtual hosting?

1. Some scripts are cpu hungry. Using two of them on a machine with a few dozen accounts just slows everything down.

2. I know for a fact that some people put 30+ virtual accounts on a Pentium 4 machine.

3. Alot of virtual accounts can't handle the traffic. Either because the machine is too overcrowded. Or because the bandwidth gets congested Picture this 50 people are directed to your site but only 25 of them have a satisfactory load rate.

Now if something like this were to be happening there would be a domino effect. For example your trades sending you the right amount of traffic but the traffic is not getting to you. Therefore you X the trade for being bad.

4. Some of the popular scripts need shell access and other server priveleges. They usually won't give you that access because of security reasons.

zzgundamnzz

08-29-2005 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby_the_pyn

Yeah theres money in domains. But I wouldn't know too much about that. I am sure theres other more knowledgable people on this board for that subject.

zzgundamnzz

08-29-2005 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydred

First of all don't look at what a host installs. Look at their prices. You can always find someone to install the scripts for you. This way you'll save alot of money in the long run.

You might wanna ask Darkhorse how much he charges to install stuff. Back when I was new I got him to install stuff for me. Make a post.

For hosting you might wanna look at this if you really have to use a virtual plan. http://phatservers.net/hosting_plans/virtual/index.html

As for server specs. I don't think you need to worry about that yet. What you could do is get a virtual plan. As your site grows upgrade through the packages. When you reach 10,000-12,000 uniques per day move to a dedicated server.

zzgundamnzz

08-30-2005 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz

Let me add something to this. When you're starting off virtual will probably be your best bet. Don't wanna have a $200-400 server bill every month when your just starting off. Just move off of virtual when you get a decent amount of traffic going.

zzgundamnzz

08-30-2005 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

Could be any number of things.

- Traffic Quality might not be very good from the 404 pages.
- One or more of your trades might be a cheater
- Might be because your trading with sites that aren't in the same niche as yours. You have babes and your trading with teen sites.

'elloBrian

08-30-2005 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz

Thanks for the replies. Another question for ya... and please bear with me because I'm totally new to this - like I said, I just stumbled upon this by accident :) Do you think incorporating a TGP into a pay site would be a good way to drive traffic to your pay site? Like, if you had the TGP in a sidebar or something? It seems to me that TGPs can do so well because they ultimately drive traffic to pay sites which can get subscribers. If you have one, why not promote your own site this way? You could even put the TGP in a frame or an iframe so it could be hosted on a separate server and not hog resources on your pay site.

Dynamix

08-30-2005 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'elloBrian

Many people do this. I've designed TGPs for paysite owners (see: http://www.kinzietgp.com/main.html ) that promote not only affiliate programs but their own paysite as well. Great way to introduce a new paysite to surfers (if your TGP is large enough).

babydred

08-30-2005 07:38 AM

Thanks ZZ...it wasn't just what would be installed...i also compared offers at similiar prices (bandwidth, disk space, etc.).

Phatserver looks good also! Thanks.

I'll be looking for a dedicated server once i get to 10 to 20k a day.

btw, does this tut also works with thumb MGPs as well?

'elloBrian

08-30-2005 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamix

That site looks more like a TGP first and foremost to me. I was thinking more along the lines of having the TGP play second fiddle to a paysite. Say, for instance, that you were going to start a new paysite and you wanted to drive customers to the site. Let's say it's a teen site. What would be the up/downsides to incorporating a smaller, discrete teen TGP off to one side of the site. People that are linking to your TGP (sorry, I know I don't have the lingo down :) 'Trading' is it?) are then also linking to your paysite. Is this fair play?

goob	08-30-2005 09:31 AM

I've gotta say, this thread has been heaps informative. I hope to start a TGP in the next few days here and truth be told, this was the thread that got me interested in doing so! Thank you!

Nightwind

08-30-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydred

ATCIHosting
Is very cheap and reliable. The support is great, the guy who runs it is on ICQ practically 24/7 and will help you with whatever you might need (script installs etc).

He can also easily change your hosting plan as your site grows if you wish. It is what i use and i am very happy with it.

There are no setup fees or contracts. :thumbsup

paymeback

08-31-2005 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwind

Yep Chris over at ATCIHosting is a great guy and will help you out installing scripts and any support you need, also i think they still run 1st month free.

babydred

09-01-2005 05:28 PM

Thanks for the tip on ATCIHosting! Their first virtual host package is half the cost of HighCountryHostings second package...and they both have the same HD and BW.

Someone mentioned them to me before...forgot i had them bookmarked.

SinSational

09-02-2005 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydred

take a look. let me know if there is anything we can do for you.

BlackElf

09-06-2005 10:52 AM

Well this will give me something to read :)

zzgundamnzz

09-10-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackElf

Well this will give me something to read :)

Definately... been writing in this thread for over a year ;)

lucas131

09-12-2005 08:51 AM

i make macro in comust thumbs in my page www.hardcoresummer.com like:

Code:

(hall of fame)

                 <table width="462" border="0" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" height="440">

<tr align="center">

    <td>{{all-thumb-1-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-2-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-3-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-4-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-5-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-6-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-7-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-8-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-9-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-10-query-best_noclicks}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-1-query-best_clicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-2-query-best_clicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-3-query-best_clicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-4-query-best_clicks}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-5-query-best_clicks}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr align="center">    

    <td>{{all-thumb-1-query-new}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-2-query-stage1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-3-query-stage1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-4-query-stage1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-5-query-stage1}}</td> 

</tr> 



(1 day)

                  <table width="483" border="0" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" height="521">

<tr align="center"> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-1-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-2-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-3-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-4-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-5-query-age1}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-7-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-8-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-9-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-10-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-11-query-age1}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-13-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-14-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-15-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-16-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-17-query-age1}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-19-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-20-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-21-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-22-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-23-query-age1}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-25-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-26-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-27-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-28-query-age1}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-29-query-age1}}</td> 

</tr> 



(2 days)

     <table width="483" border="0" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" height="521">

<tr align="center"> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-1-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-2-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-3-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-4-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-5-query-age2}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-7-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-8-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-9-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-10-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-11-query-age2}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-13-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-14-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-15-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-16-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-17-query-age2}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-19-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-20-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-21-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-22-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-23-query-age2}}</td> 

</tr> 

<tr> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-25-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-26-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-27-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-28-query-age2}}</td> 

    <td>{{all-thumb-29-query-age2}}</td> 

</tr> 

</table>

Is it good u said that 1 table like i have but 2 and 3 table with query best but i dont know how to make it example {{all-thumb-1-query-best}} ?? And fill all 1 and 2 days table with query best?

How make skim in every table different? 65, 60 55?

sevent1

09-12-2005 07:49 PM

this just the kind of thread i was looking..great info

ForceWielder

09-17-2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz

1. You should see the how old this thread is.

2. Do not register with Go Daddy or other cheap places! Register with the big companies. They charge more but you won't get fucked over.

Where in that sentence did I say go daddy wasn't big? "Do not register with Go Daddy or other cheap places! Register with the big companies. They charge more but you won't get fucked over"

I said Do not register with Go Daddy or other Cheap Places! Thats what I said about them. Then in the next sentence I said register with big companies. I called Go Daddy cheap... nowhere did I call it small.

3. Thanks for the bump

What if I already made the mistake of registering domains with go daddy? What can I do to fix this mishap?

smoothballs

09-18-2005 10:00 AM

I'm having big problems trying to get scripts like comus run on my server, dont think they allow msqldatabase to be connected to a host outside their network! think I need to change hosts!

StickyGreen

09-19-2005 01:17 AM

so zz, you gonna make a traffic trading tutorial or what?

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