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zzgundamnzz 07-01-2004 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool1g
what kind of bandwidth would a 50K or 100K thumb TGP go through?

i already have a virtual accout at ISPrime that goes up to 100 gigs per month - would I blow through that?

thanks! :thumbsup

Lets say your page is 500K in size(could be alot more or less depending on number, size, quality of thumbs) per visitor.

Per Day:

500K 1 Visitor

5 MB 10 Visitors

50 MB 100 Visitors

500 MB 1000 Visitors

5 Gigs 10,000 Visitors

50 Gigs 100,000 Visitors

infecto 07-01-2004 06:44 AM

I think I am going to open a tgp and make millions!!! ;)

cool1g 07-01-2004 10:56 AM

ZZ - thanks for the reply....i have a follow up - aren't the thumbs on the website typically hosted by the submitter or the paysite if using a FHG?

so the 500K estimate would just be based on banners and graphics loading on the page, right?

zzgundamnzz 07-01-2004 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool1g
ZZ - thanks for the reply....i have a follow up - aren't the thumbs on the website typically hosted by the submitter or the paysite if using a FHG?

so the 500K estimate would just be based on banners and graphics loading on the page, right?

500K would be an estimate of the banners, graphics, html, and thumbs of your site.

You host the thumbs. The submitter, sponsor is hosting the galleries.

teleblade69 07-01-2004 04:12 PM

the last part is getting the trades started.


Can you give some info how to choose the trades


like wait 10 hours and at what % of production do you have to keep them and...


thx


tb

zzgundamnzz 07-01-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teleblade69
the last part is getting the trades started.


Can you give some info how to choose the trades


like wait 10 hours and at what % of production do you have to keep them and...


thx


tb

I would say wait 24 hours atleast...

If a trade doesn't produce to atleast 100% dump them. If your using Comus and have good site design productivity should be above 100%.

teleblade69 07-01-2004 04:27 PM

i tried buying 40k tgp traffic but it didn't worked for me now i'm trying it with choker traffic 20 college hits/hour to my site.


Hope de quality is working instead of the quantity . :)



Is it worth trying ZZ?



tb

cambaby 07-02-2004 12:57 PM

Here is a tip if you want to save bandwidth, use GZip compression if you can, it will cut the bandwidth nearly 50% in some cases it also makes for faster viewing of a page. You could start your TGP on a 100gig account pretty easily for sure, plan for growth and realize that the 100gig will not get it at some point. Well thats what we hope anyways. Gzip Gzip Gzip.

zzgundamnzz 07-02-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teleblade69
i tried buying 40k tgp traffic but it didn't worked for me now i'm trying it with choker traffic 20 college hits/hour to my site.


Hope de quality is working instead of the quantity . :)



Is it worth trying ZZ?



tb

Might be worth it.

You won't grow big... but you might establish some very good trades by trading quality traffic.

sean416 07-02-2004 08:32 PM

I dont mean to be an asshole, but I thought I'd offer my opinion on some of these matters.

If you're just starting out, heres a way to start a TGP with $50 instead of $5000.

1. Get a domain name at godaddy.com, yes their TOS (terms of service) makes you a hoe to their pimpin back hand, but for the most part you're safe. especially when you're just starting out.

2. use a virtual host. use a hosting company like webair.com and they'll allow you to upgrade as neccessary.

3. Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP. It will save you bandwidth, it will save you from buying programs, and hey, they're still awesome.

4. download http://www.scriptarchive.com/rand_link.html and use this for all of the links to your galleries. This is a random link generator.. meaning each time somebody clicks on the link a new gallery will appear. You can also divide it into categories like babe, teen, fetish, etc.

5. sign up for as many sponsors as you can with free hosted galleries. and also put your link trades into the database to force traffic to the sites your trading with.

6. put a couple banners on your site to either sites you want to promote, products, whatever you think will bring in the dough!

7. Now your new $50 TGP is pretty much self maintenenced. So with your extra time start building your own galleries with 3 reciporal links with of course one of those links being yours. Just another way to get some more traffic.

The reason I say this, is a lot of people want to get into the adult biz, pour out thousands of dollars and give up shortly there after. This way you wont have spent all that money for nothing should you decide this isnt for you.

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone, but dont think anyone is doing anything for free here. All of the links to the sponsors all have zzgundamnzz referral codes in them, meaning, he will be making money off of every dime you make. Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee. All I mean to say is make sure you research what you're getting into before you blow all your money on it, what was said in this post is just one mans opinoin and not a guaranteed recipe to make money. :) If you know anything about our economy you should know the fallacy of composition. What's good for one person is NOT neccessarily good for all.

Best of luck!

sean416 07-02-2004 08:38 PM

50 :1orglaugh :glugglug

zzgundamnzz 07-02-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
I dont mean to be an asshole, but I thought I'd offer my opinion on some of these matters.

If you're just starting out, heres a way to start a TGP with $50 instead of $5000.

1. Get a domain name at godaddy.com, yes their TOS (terms of service) makes you a hoe to their pimpin back hand, but for the most part you're safe. especially when you're just starting out.

2. use a virtual host. use a hosting company like webair.com and they'll allow you to upgrade as neccessary.

3. Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP. It will save you bandwidth, it will save you from buying programs, and hey, they're still awesome.

4. download http://www.scriptarchive.com/rand_link.html and use this for all of the links to your galleries. This is a random link generator.. meaning each time somebody clicks on the link a new gallery will appear. You can also divide it into categories like babe, teen, fetish, etc.

5. sign up for as many sponsors as you can with free hosted galleries. and also put your link trades into the database to force traffic to the sites your trading with.

6. put a couple banners on your site to either sites you want to promote, products, whatever you think will bring in the dough!

7. Now your new $50 TGP is pretty much self maintenenced. So with your extra time start building your own galleries with 3 reciporal links with of course one of those links being yours. Just another way to get some more traffic.

The reason I say this, is a lot of people want to get into the adult biz, pour out thousands of dollars and give up shortly there after. This way you wont have spent all that money for nothing should you decide this isnt for you.

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone, but dont think anyone is doing anything for free here. All of the links to the sponsors all have zzgundamnzz referral codes in them, meaning, he will be making money off of every dime you make. Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee. All I mean to say is make sure you research what you're getting into before you blow all your money on it, what was said in this post is just one mans opinoin and not a guaranteed recipe to make money. :) If you know anything about our economy you should know the fallacy of composition. What's good for one person is NOT neccessarily good for all.

Best of luck!

If your going to threadjack atleast give right information...

You talked about inserting a link to a trade randomly into the text TGP script.

- How are you even going to know if your TGP is being productive?

- How would you even know what people click on?

- What happends to unproductive trades?

They get as much as regular trades and thats how you get assed out and fail in running your TGP.

1. What people do need to do is grab a free TGP script like:
Auto Gallery
http://www.jmbsoft.com/software/ag/

2. And then a Free Trade Script like:
Awgtrade
CJultra
TTT
Arrow Trader Lite

3. Go to http://www.sponsorhostedgalleries.com
Signup to as many sponsors that have your niche.

4. Import them into auto gallery. Get the first click to gallery and skim 60-50%.

5. Run a table of 6-8 Thumbs at the top. Skim them.
These thumbs will help your productivity while using minimal bandwidth.

6. Your done.

zzgundamnzz 07-02-2004 10:05 PM

BTW where the hell did $5000 come from?

Most people can get decent Thumb TGP for as little as $260... dedicated hosting plus 160K of decent feeder traffic.

sean416 07-02-2004 11:20 PM

lol. whatever dude. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, you're the best im the worst. I'm completely wrong and everything I said was intentionally trying to throw people off of your proven method of success. It is hard, but in light of your responses, I just had to face the facts. :1orglaugh

But I will be a stick in the mud about one thing, I said it before and I say it again... Good luck to everyone, including you zzgundamnzz :thumbsup :winkwink:

sean416 07-02-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
- How are you even going to know if your TGP is being productive?

- How would you even know what people click on?

- What happends to unproductive trades?


Sorry to go back on my word, but just for the sake of the people reading this thread I figured I should respond to the relevant counter criticism that was raised in the above quotation.

You would know what people clicked on based on your affiliate stats.

Unproductive trades would easily be recognized in your web stats.

And as zzgundamnzz reckoned earlier, a TGP's productivity is based on the $$$ earned. Therefor to check your TGP's productivity I would refer to your bank statement. :winkwink:

Now, I would like to make it clear that doing things the other way that was outlined in this thread would be A LOT more productive and easier (once you get the hang of things). You'd probably also make more money. What I was trying to achieve was some balanced input showing another way of doing things. :)

zzgundamnzz 07-03-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
lol. whatever dude. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, you're the best im the worst. I'm completely wrong and everything I said was intentionally trying to throw people off of your proven method of success. It is hard, but in light of your responses, I just had to face the facts. :1orglaugh

But I will be a stick in the mud about one thing, I said it before and I say it again... Good luck to everyone, including you zzgundamnzz :thumbsup :winkwink:

You know what... I don't really care what you think. All I wanted to do was share information that I thought would be useful. So what if I stick my ref codes to sponsors. If they don't make money I don't make money. The more successful the people I refer become the more successful I become.

I haven't seen too many people write articles about building a thumb TGP.

Whats your beef with me anyway?

Say whatever you want...

In the end you're just clearing up my ICQ messages from people asking for free help.

sean416 07-03-2004 12:33 AM

Quote:

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone... ...Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee...
and I thought I made it clear that i wasnt trying to start 'beef'? I think you're a bit too defensive. But no hard feelings over here champ. :thumbsup

zzgundamnzz 07-03-2004 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
and I thought I made it clear that i wasnt trying to start 'beef'? I think you're a bit too defensive. But no hard feelings over here champ. :thumbsup
Why not... this thread needs some GFY drama

Khun 07-03-2004 11:51 AM

Sorry for the newb question but I still dont really get what skimming is. Can you explan that in a little bit of detail?

QuaWee 07-03-2004 01:52 PM

excellent thread.

sean416 07-03-2004 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Khun
Sorry for the newb question but I still dont really get what skimming is. Can you explan that in a little bit of detail?
If someone clicks on a link but doesnt get the gallery he clicked on, instead he is redirected to another TGP that you are trading traffic with thats a skim. Now say you're talking about an 80% skim. That means 80% of the time he'll get the gallery and 20% of the time he'll get the other TGP. But I'm not 100% sure about that, it could be the other way around. 80% could mean that he gets the other TGP 80% of the time. That just seems a bit high to me but with some of the thumbnail TGP's out there it is quite possible.

Thats the type of skimming they're talking about. :Graucho

Khun 07-03-2004 07:19 PM

Cool, thanks. I am working trying to set this up at the moment. I will post and let you guys know how well it goes for me when I get all the pieces together.

zzgundamnzz 07-04-2004 05:08 PM

one bump for July 4th :)

Dagwolf 07-05-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz

1. What people do need to do is grab a free TGP script like:
Auto Gallery
http://www.jmbsoft.com/software/ag/
.
zzgundamnzz : Not to side against you, I think this is a great thread and I'm following it closely. I just thought I should correct a little misunderstanding

The above script randomizes links to galleries, not to traffic trades. In other words, you can list URLs of 10,000 galleries in a text file (which the script accesses) and 50 links on your tgp page, and each time a visitor comes to your site he'll be faced with a different list of galleries for a long, long time; If all these galleries are yours and have your referral code on them, you keep all the traffic for yourself.
If all these galleries are sponsor-hosted, then you get all the money from the sales AND don't have to pay the gigantic bandwidth bill.

Either way, it eliminates the hassle of submissions/reviews. However, it DOES mean that you have to build or find all these galleries yourself and submit them to other TGPs yourself (or buy traffic).



Keep us updated! I love this thread.

Khun 07-05-2004 07:43 PM

Well, I just bought my ServerMatrix box. Wish me luck getting it running.

zzgundamnzz 07-05-2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Khun
Well, I just bought my ServerMatrix box. Wish me luck getting it running.
Good Luck :thumbsup

Been very busy with my newsite http://cutesexygirls.net

But if anybody still needs help hit me up on ICQ:
294942395

Alltopnotch 07-06-2004 12:22 AM

why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

zzgundamnzz 07-06-2004 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...
Don't know...

Khun 07-06-2004 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...
Why, whats wrong with it?

saamo 07-06-2004 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...
Just a shot in the dark, but my answer would have to be "to help other people make money, and in turn make a percentage off the money they make" :2 cents:

zzgundamnzz 07-07-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saamo
Just a shot in the dark, but my answer would have to be "to help other people make money, and in turn make a percentage off the money they make" :2 cents:
:thumbsup

zzgundamnzz 07-09-2004 08:28 AM

one more bump :)

Adultnet 07-11-2004 03:12 PM

very good guide, thanks :)

italianninja 07-11-2004 03:35 PM

thats a cool tutorial. comus is the best there is. my advice to you all is, choose a niche, babes, pornstars, blowjobs, footjobs whatever, there are alot of nichies out there, choose one and work on it. thats the mistake i first made, i didnt choose a niche and my tgp was too general. :)

adultpixel 07-12-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
one more bump :)
@zzgundamnzz:
just wanna say thank you for taking the time to write your great tutorial. I think, it's this kind of quality postings, which make it worth, to read adultwebmaster-boards for webmasters, who are into learning something and looking for helpful information.

thank you! :thumbsup

cheers,
adultpixel

pood 07-12-2004 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...
w
t
f
are you retarted?

fuzzylogic 07-13-2004 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
thats a cool tutorial. comus is the best there is. my advice to you all is, choose a niche, babes, pornstars, blowjobs, footjobs whatever, there are alot of nichies out there, choose one and work on it. thats the mistake i first made, i didnt choose a niche and my tgp was too general. :)

really? maybe thats what my issue is. did you keep your general tgp anyway, or toss it for a niche?

fuzzylogic 07-13-2004 02:20 AM

can u post a place to get trades? thx. then i will know what to look for so i can find more myself.

also, i was using trial comus but it kept skimming out to xxxonfire.com. i did not want to pay for something when i am not making money with yet, so i replaced it with a fake tgp.

so, trial comus skims at 2%? skimming is that it takes clicks away from your site. therefore, 1 out of 5 clicks to a thumb goes to xxxonfire.com, right?

fuzzylogic 07-13-2004 02:25 AM

here is another question:
if one buys a shitload of tgp traffic, how does that convert? it is mostly foreign, china traffic and they don't have a cc.

fuzzylogic 07-13-2004 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzzylogic
can u post a place to get trades? thx. then i will know what to look for so i can find more myself.

also, i was using trial comus but it kept skimming out to xxxonfire.com. i did not want to pay for something when i am not making money with yet, so i replaced it with a fake tgp.

so, trial comus skims at 2%? skimming is that it takes clicks away from your site. therefore, 1 out of 5 clicks to a thumb goes to xxxonfire.com, right?

correction:
i was lossing one out of five clicks to xxxonfire.
THATS NOT A 2% SHAVE

how do i get a shave that low?


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