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BastarD 03-03-2005 04:30 AM

that's great thread!

biggielong21 03-03-2005 10:35 PM

Auto Gallery
 
Thank you for starting this thread, I'm a beginning to this industry and I have learned a lot from this. I have a quick question though, is there a auto gallery software or script that manages all the submission/posting/trading software without much maintanence?

Thank you in advance!

Pornwolf 03-04-2005 02:26 PM

This is a really good thread. It will live forever. They should sticky it or make a new How To forum with articles like this.

Barefootsies 03-05-2005 10:24 PM

ZZ

I tried to chat with you via ICQ Saturday night. I need a bit of help, and it's more complex than typing all of it out here.

I left you a few quick messages, and not sure if you got them, but if you could please hit me up via e-mail, or ICQ it would be much appreciated mate.

:helpme

shuki 03-06-2005 05:14 PM

ZZ,

Can you send me an e-mail or post your e-mail so I can send you an e-mail. I have a question for you.

My contact info is in my sig

TIA :thumbsup

zzgundamnzz 03-06-2005 06:30 PM

For people trying to contact me via ICQ try to do so while I am at the office.
8am to 4pm Pacific Time.
# 294942395

You contact me after 5 or early in the morning I'll either put you on ignore or tell you to go to hell and to contact me at the said hours.

Thanks for understanding,

Barefootsies 03-06-2005 07:18 PM

Understandable mate. :thumbsup

:pimp

sarad 03-07-2005 05:11 PM

Setup my template for a fee?
 
Hi ZZ,

I have been reading this topic on and off for about 3 days now! You have done an excellent job at explaining it all, specially for noobs like me!

I decided to give Comus a try and set up the 2% skim version, it seems to be a very steep learning curve to get the template setup with the productivity and trades.... can you do this [for a fee of course] :helpme

I want to get it set up with my template and TTT trades.

I am sorry if this has already been asked and answered but it is a very long thread and hard to take it all in!:eyecrazy

Thanks so much
Sara

INever 03-07-2005 05:47 PM

A Simpler Way?
 
What if I have a unique landing page that is different from what is usually out there? Below the superficial design, the page will just be a modified "banner farm".

Couldn't I simply buy traffic and convert to cash via click thrus to my sponsors?

I could trade some traffic via recip/toplists, but if I buy good traffic that converts at a profit, do I really have to do a lot of trading and gallery submissions???

zzgundamnzz 03-09-2005 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INever
What if I have a unique landing page that is different from what is usually out there? Below the superficial design, the page will just be a modified "banner farm".

Couldn't I simply buy traffic and convert to cash via click thrus to my sponsors?

I could trade some traffic via recip/toplists, but if I buy good traffic that converts at a profit, do I really have to do a lot of trading and gallery submissions???

What would be the point of having a TGP if you don't want to start trades and are going to buy good traffic that converts at profit. Why not just send directly to sponsor or gallery?

zzgundamnzz 03-09-2005 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarad
Hi ZZ,

I have been reading this topic on and off for about 3 days now! You have done an excellent job at explaining it all, specially for noobs like me!

I decided to give Comus a try and set up the 2% skim version, it seems to be a very steep learning curve to get the template setup with the productivity and trades.... can you do this [for a fee of course] :helpme

I want to get it set up with my template and TTT trades.

I am sorry if this has already been asked and answered but it is a very long thread and hard to take it all in!:eyecrazy

Thanks so much
Sara

Sorry I don't setup trades. Too time consuming and just not worth the time and effort setting it up for someone else when I could use the time to setup my own.

zzgundamnzz 03-17-2005 04:19 PM

bump for the new people

Barefootsies 03-17-2005 10:00 PM

bumpity bump for da ZZ

:thumbsup

clickclickclick 03-18-2005 03:25 PM

i want to start some sort of hybrid thumbs/ text link site. what tgp mgnt script would u suggest?

zzgundamnzz 03-19-2005 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickclickclick
i want to start some sort of hybrid thumbs/ text link site. what tgp mgnt script would u suggest?

Comus or Auto Gallery SQL would do the job.

clickclickclick 03-19-2005 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz
Comus or Auto Gallery SQL would do the job.

can agsql crop thumbs from movie preview pics?

shuki 03-19-2005 11:13 AM

zzgundamnzz,

Are you available for paid consultation work?

Do you mind sending me an e-mail please.

Thanks :thumbsup

Contact info in sig

zzgundamnzz 03-19-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuki
zzgundamnzz,

Are you available for paid consultation work?

Do you mind sending me an e-mail please.

Thanks :thumbsup

Contact info in sig

Of course I am. Hit me up on ICQ. You're already on my list.

leg4 03-20-2005 03:29 AM

fpc traffic is a scammer-- stay away

metalkid 03-21-2005 05:02 AM

Hi ZZ!

I want to start my own thumb tgp in the next few days...

But I still have no hosting for my tgp...

Is the $99 monthly offer from Servermatrixx ok for the beginning or is there any catch?

http://www.servermatrix.com/servers.html

I also don't want an unmanaged hosting...so is the free silver level they offer enough?

http://www.servermatrix.com/managed_services.html

zzgundamnzz 03-21-2005 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalkid
Hi ZZ!

I want to start my own thumb tgp in the next few days...

But I still have no hosting for my tgp...

Is the $99 monthly offer from Servermatrixx ok for the beginning or is there any catch?

http://www.servermatrix.com/servers.html

I also don't want an unmanaged hosting...so is the free silver level they offer enough?

http://www.servermatrix.com/managed_services.html

I would say don't go with Server Matrix unless you know your way around a server. Otherwise you'll constantly find yourself in trouble. BTW phone support won't look at your site if its adult.

metalkid 03-21-2005 10:26 AM

Hmmm...so you have any not too expansive managed server recommendations for a beginning thumb tgp?

zzgundamnzz 03-22-2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalkid
Hmmm...so you have any not too expansive managed server recommendations for a beginning thumb tgp?

Make a post asking for a dedicated server. Alot of the reps will try to contact you to make a deal. You'll usually get better pricing than the ones on their main pages.

As for recommendations I would recommend Splitinfinity and the other big companies out there.

nmcog 03-22-2005 04:48 PM

www.theplanet.com

metalkid 03-23-2005 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz
Make a post asking for a dedicated server. Alot of the reps will try to contact you to make a deal. You'll usually get better pricing than the ones on their main pages.

As for recommendations I would recommend Splitinfinity and the other big companies out there.

I'll do that...thanks...

zzgundamnzz 03-24-2005 12:28 AM

Dealing with Sponsor Galleries using commas:

In the import section of your comus there will be a small box called "Delimeter"
You can change the comma into another character. Then just change it back to a comma when you're done with that certain type of import.

zzgundamnzz 03-29-2005 01:45 PM

For people suddenly having trouble loading in Gallery Review Control:

If everythings working fine and one day Gallery Review Control doesn't wanna load. Quick fix is to clear your browser cache.

E.Kant 03-30-2005 07:12 AM

Hi ZZ.

What do you recomend at the very begin of the page. Unless the site is small ~1K under which criteria do you manage the trades.

When the site is small it gets small amount of hits from trades. When the amount of traffic coming from a trade is small you cant really judge the traffic productivity adequantly. 10 hits for example are too less in order to say if the prod is good or bad.

1) what is a fair amount to judge a trade regarding its productivity?

Now would you go for click or for trade productivity ? For example if a trade sends me 100 hits but only 20 clicks shall I keep the trade if I only return 20 hits back , basd on pord ?

---
2) When you start off with a small amount of hits you usually cant make it into the top referer list with bigger sites, unless you are trading with small sites.
Now it is known that the more hits you send to a trade the better the traffic is that you will get in return.

I have forgotten what I was intented to ask :)

Ok the general trading strategy is
1) Add new trades daily
2) Remove bad productive trades
3) repeat that every day

Ok now it can be seen relative when a trade is productive and not and it depends on what kind of productivity you set your focus to TradePord, Click Prod, effectivity ..

what are your thought on that ?

karlm 03-30-2005 12:57 PM

I would like to know this also

zzgundamnzz 03-30-2005 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.Kant
Hi ZZ.

What do you recomend at the very begin of the page. Unless the site is small ~1K under which criteria do you manage the trades.

When the site is small it gets small amount of hits from trades. When the amount of traffic coming from a trade is small you cant really judge the traffic productivity adequantly. 10 hits for example are too less in order to say if the prod is good or bad.

1) what is a fair amount to judge a trade regarding its productivity?

Now would you go for click or for trade productivity ? For example if a trade sends me 100 hits but only 20 clicks shall I keep the trade if I only return 20 hits back , basd on pord ?

---
2) When you start off with a small amount of hits you usually cant make it into the top referer list with bigger sites, unless you are trading with small sites.
Now it is known that the more hits you send to a trade the better the traffic is that you will get in return.

I have forgotten what I was intented to ask :)

Ok the general trading strategy is
1) Add new trades daily
2) Remove bad productive trades
3) repeat that every day

Ok now it can be seen relative when a trade is productive and not and it depends on what kind of productivity you set your focus to TradePord, Click Prod, effectivity ..

what are your thought on that ?

1. If you're trading small such as 10-20 etc. Judge them by whatever they give you. The trade might be good to bigger trades but if its crap for smaller trades and if your a small trade then treat it as such.

If a trade sends you 100 uniques and only 20 click and you send 20 uniques back its not a very good trade. It might seem like your getting the upper hand but your not.

Think of it this way: Out of 100 people there were only 20 clicks that were interested. That means your trades surfers aren't very interested in your site. So they would be even less interested in actually buying from you and your sponsors.

How do you get around all this crap? Such as trading 10-20 uniques at a time? Its simple you buy traffic to generate temporary hits so you can start off with 100+ unique trades.

Always trade with click productivity. It lets you know if that sites visitors are interested in your site. Trading uniques even if you get more than your sending isn't generally good. Why? because you don't know if you're getting crap traffic, uninterested, bots, etc.

zzgundamnzz 03-30-2005 04:39 PM

Also take this into account. If you skim 60% to galleries. 20 x .6 = 12 go to galleries and only 8 go to trades. To get 8 people to go to trades you had to give 20 out clicks. Which will cause you trouble later.

Buncha 03-31-2005 03:07 AM

If any newbies are thinking of giving this a try, I'd recommend High Country Hosting. When I read through this tutorial about 2 months ago, I signed up for a basic plan under $10 and they installed the Comus and TTT scripts for me (free/skim versions). I was up and running in about 24 hours.

After a few weeks, I decided that a TGP wasn't the route I wanted to go, and I've been doing free sites instead. But this tutorial was very helpful. Big thanks to the author and all the contributors. I know I'm going to come back to this and give it another try in the future.

Anyways, if anyone is looking for cheap hosting and can't handle installing scripts, check these guys out. I'm sure if you drop them an e-mail and mention you're from the GFY boards, they'll give you a good price.

http://www.highcountryhosting.com/

Sickthing 04-01-2005 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikad
Hi!
We run many TGP's and we know what you need:
http://www.highcountryhosting.com
Hosting comes with Comus, TTT, Image Magick, Ads Script and more...and all installed and running for your pleasure!
Nik :thumbsup

Are you still offering all of this. I didn't see specific mention of it. Is this offered with both your virtual and your dedicated plans?

Sickthing 04-01-2005 05:13 AM

Gunda,

You may be sick of praise by now, though I never would be. LOL I've been on a lot of boards, even before their was an internet and I've never been interested enough to read though 8 pages of post. Took me a while but I did.

While going through the thread I noticed about half the sites that people setup after this thread started were still up. Many of the sites that had links here are gone. Not too bad really, especailly since every failure is in some way your fault. :) (I'm kidding just commenting on some your frustrated post.)

One thing question has been formost on my mind, you said you've been at this for 2 years. I've learned that networking is key to making any money on the net. Why are other sites going to want to trade with me? It appears to be about quality traders. I just wonder how I'm going to make that happen starting out?

I wonder if those two years have a lot to do with your sucess. Clearly you understand the concept of giving in order to establish relationships. Giving without expecting anything in return like you did here.

Although other opinions that were posted here helped me a great deal, anyone slamming you for posting links with your referral code is offbase and calls their credibility into question, at least in my mind. That was wrong.

Thanks,

Sickthing

zzgundamnzz 04-01-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sickthing
Why are other sites going to want to trade with me? It appears to be about quality traders. I just wonder how I'm going to make that happen starting out?

Sickthing

Simple answer to that is People want to grow. Well if you're starting out and have zero traffic to trade out I would suggest buying traffic to your site.

The Concept:
Imagine if your site is you're heart. Buying traffic is like buying a Blood transfusion. Now that blood isn't going to be as good as the stuff already in the body. So imagine that the various body parts are your traders. They already have blood. You're going to want to circulate the not so good quality transfusion blood into multiple body parts. Now that you have the various body parts creating the chain by giving blood and dilluting the bad quality of the transfusion the heart can now sustain istelf. Then you work on chaining more body parts to the heart and growing the supply of blood.

Playa-Deak 04-01-2005 03:52 PM

VERY nice. Thnx for taking time out of your life to share with wealthy info sir :) :thumbsup

I'm gonna apply these methods.. I'm gonna have questions and hopefully you're still kind enough to answer them... :)

Darkhorse 04-02-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz
Or you could go with these guys

http://www.adultscriptservice.com/prices.html

They'll do it for $15...

Or go with Package 2 where they'll install and run the script for you for two weeks while finding productive trades.

Not too sure if these guys are around anymore though. Try them on ICQ.

Thanks for the plug mate, We have been offline for a while now due to personal issiues but have been back online for the last few months so give us a holla if you need any work done we are very flexible and easy to work with.

zzgundamnzz 04-02-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhorse
Thanks for the plug mate, We have been offline for a while now due to personal issiues but have been back online for the last few months so give us a holla if you need any work done we are very flexible and easy to work with.

Nice to see that you're back :)

I still remember how you helped me when I was first starting out It was very much appreciated :thumbsup

Darkhorse 04-02-2005 09:23 PM

Ya I remember that mate, by the looks of things you could teach me a few things these days.

:thumbsup

juve20 04-03-2005 10:42 AM

hi zzgundamnzz

Great guide. keep up the good work.

thanks
tony


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