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iamtam · 12-17-2010, 06:13 PM

whatever bike you buy, please sign your organ donor card. it will make someone (or more than one someone) happy some point in the future.

dyna mo · 12-17-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtam

whatever bike you buy, please sign your organ donor card. it will make someone (or more than one someone) happy some point in the future.

there's always an anti-bike retard who has to chime in with their shitty outlook on life.

scubadiver626 · 12-17-2010, 06:33 PM

I started on a 600 CBR and learned, loved it, painted it, rode it into the ground sold it.

Now I own the green Ninja posted earlier. 250 is all I need in a remote beach home.

Get the 600+ imo if youre in a resonably safe urban environment.

Def. keep the fear and don;t get too comfortable. Thats when accident happen.

Grapesoda · 12-17-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

No Harley is very "sporty". Either go for a cruiser or a Sportbike. Don't fuck around in the middle.

If it's your first bike here's just a couple of suggestions to get started on.

In the Sportsbike arena look at the CBR125RR and Ninja250. Yes they're on the small side but they're cheap and light. Don't be too afraid of the low ccs .. the 250 will spank most 600cc cruisers. If you think you can exercise the required restraint, i.e. you're emotionally and mentally mature enough, then you might consider going as large as say a Honda CBR600 f4i. They're plentifull, reliable and cheap. And they'll bitch slap a Harley.

In the Cruiser arena I'd like at the 500CC Kawasaki Vulcan, 600CC Honda Shadow and 650CC Yamaha V star.

Don't spend a lot of money on your first bike. It's often said that it's not if you'll drop your first bike but rather when.

Good luck!

I would go with a harley sportster just for the resale value

dyna mo · 12-17-2010, 06:56 PM

i'm not so sure i agree with the riding in fear advice. it's more about confidence of skills and awareness.

baddog · 12-17-2010, 07:23 PM

I ride with my eyes closed because it is so scary out there.

CamTraffic · 12-17-2010, 07:28 PM

start with a 125cc
Don't get a fast bike if you have no experience, or this is what will (probably) happen:

Honda shadows are actually great bikes to learn on:
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...oq=&gs_rf ai=

this is what i want next:

get used to the road, the danger comes mostly from other people ( driving cars)
i would give it 6 month then get a bigger one

Good luck

baddog · 12-17-2010, 08:38 PM

These are cooler than any rice grinder, inexpensive and an easy bike for a beginner.

candyflip · 12-19-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

To be serious for a sec --

That's my first bike too - I bought it used, had a CBR600 dual disc front end.

One of mine too. Sold it for an RC51 that my ex ended up with. I'm gona try and find another this spring.

Great bike for anyone who likes to ride. Beginners included.

scubadiver626 · 12-19-2010, 01:33 PM

Ya practice, hone your skills, I totally agree. what I mean by don't get too comfortable.

Careful of the little old lady abruptly changing lanes or the semi spitting huge trunks of tire treads. Be aware of whos around you and don't sit next to vehicles.

Leave the bike in gear at lights and space between cars so you don't get sandwhiched ny a drunk driver.

Slow down for EVERY intersection.

It could save your life by not getting too comfy while riding. As in life hope for the best but expect the worst and be prepared. I've seen / been aqaunted with 1 dead riders and another confined to a wheelchair for life. Both involved alcohol and speeding down residential streets.

Cars simply pulled out in front of them at intersections... and boom. they were both teens.

baddog · 12-19-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626

Leave the bike in gear at lights

Who gave you that advice?

MaDalton · 12-19-2010, 01:50 PM

the vmax was the bike of my wet teenage dreams - although i kind of remember the first one looked a bit smaller than the actual one

but i always ended up driving enduros and since i never did really long trips i found them perfect for me

scubadiver626 · 12-19-2010, 01:55 PM

It's been so long I forget. But I often catch myself in neutral, breaking my own rule. Then again if it's a weekend party night i'm more aware of what's pulling up behind me.

Ya im pretty much a worry wart rider. 2 young kids that want bikes doesnt help.

baddog · 12-19-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626

It's been so long I forget. But I often catch myself in neutral, breaking my own rule.

Your "rule" is as wrong as can be.

Adultlexicon · 12-19-2010, 03:18 PM

Me and my GF own a buell xb 9 sx great handling not too much power but enough to have a great time and a v-twin sound, they probaly don't cost shit in the US

i also love this bike but its about 50K US dollars

Adultlexicon · 12-19-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

These are cooler than any rice grinder, inexpensive and an easy bike for a beginner.

A friend of me bought one in Cambodia and drove it all the way back to the Netherlands something like 10.000 miles, but these thing are pieces of crap, only ment for cheap transportation.

baddog · 12-19-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultlexicon

A friend of me bought one in Cambodia and drove it all the way back to the Netherlands something like 10.000 miles, but these thing are pieces of crap, only ment for cheap transportation.

The bikes are extremely inexpensive and it made it from Cambodia to NL. How many times did it break down?

klinton · 12-19-2010, 03:42 PM

royal enfield= king, but it's not sportsbike :-P

dyna mo · 12-19-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

royal enfield= king, but it's not sportsbike :-P

not a sportbike either.

Adultlexicon · 12-19-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

The bikes are extremely inexpensive and it made it from Cambodia to NL. How many times did it break down?

im not sure but i dont think it broke down at all, he even drove it with his GF on the back.

They are very cheap, getting the bike registered in The Netherlands cost almost as much as the new bike, damn taxes here!

WarChild · 12-19-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your "rule" is as wrong as can be.

Curious as to why you think it's wrong? Pretty much every riding school I know of teaches keep it in gear.

Rear foot on back brake, in gear, left foot on ground. If you have to accelerate to avoid a collision you're ready to go.

You once said you though beanie helmets were safer than full face helmets too which is absurd. I'd love to hear how you have this one figured.

jimmy-3-way · 12-19-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your "rule" is as wrong as can be.

I agree -- obviously you know better than the MSF since you've been riding since the invention of the motorcycle.

scubadiver626 · 12-19-2010, 09:15 PM

ya, what he said!

baddog · 12-19-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Curious as to why you think it's wrong? Pretty much every riding school I know of teaches keep it in gear.

Rear foot on back brake, in gear, left foot on ground. If you have to accelerate to avoid a collision you're ready to go.

You once said you though beanie helmets were safer than full face helmets too which is absurd. I'd love to hear how you have this one figured.

I guess I will have to ask my son and goodgirl what they were taught, but my reason is simple.

If you are sitting at a red light in gear, there are many things that can happen that would cause the clutch to engage. Things like cables breaking. I am sure you have heard of a "suicide clutch." That is because it was considered suicide to sit at a red light in gear hoping the clutch did not somehow engage.

I have experienced it and I have seen it happen to others. I remember asking some guy on a bike what time it was while we were stopped at a light. He twisted his arm to look at his watch and lost his grip on the clutch lever. Luckily, there was no cross traffic in the lane he ended up in.

baddog · 12-19-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultlexicon

im not sure but i dont think it broke down at all, he even drove it with his GF on the back.

They are very cheap, getting the bike registered in The Netherlands cost almost as much as the new bike, damn taxes here!

Doesn't sound like a piece of crap to me.

I would not mind owning one for cruising along the beach.

WarChild · 12-19-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess I will have to ask my son and goodgirl what they were taught, but my reason is simple.

If you are sitting at a red light in gear, there are many things that can happen that would cause the clutch to engage. Things like cables breaking. I am sure you have heard of a "suicide clutch." That is because it was considered suicide to sit at a red light in gear hoping the clutch did not somehow engage.

I have experienced it and I have seen it happen to others. I remember asking some guy on a bike what time it was while we were stopped at a light. He twisted his arm to look at his watch and lost his grip on the clutch lever. Luckily, there was no cross traffic in the lane he ended up in.

Ahh yes well you see modern brakes will hold the bike and it will just stall if something happens to the clutch. Do modern Harleys not use hydrolic clutches? Don't most modern bikes?

It just makes sense to me. How often do you think people get rearended by inattentive traffic, or involved in a multiple vehicle pile up when someone gets rearended behind them versus how many times clutches fail and bikes shoot out in to insersections? I'm fairly certain one happens more often than the other.

CPA37710T · 12-19-2010, 09:50 PM

So i ended up getting a 200cc Kawasaki Ninja bike... lets see how it goes, if i die please attend the funeral lol

thanks !

baddog · 12-19-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Ahh yes well you see modern brakes will hold the bike and it will just stall if something happens to the clutch. Do modern Harleys not use hydrolic clutches? Don't most modern bikes?

It just makes sense to me. How often do you think people get rearended by inattentive traffic, or involved in a multiple vehicle pile up when someone gets rearended behind them versus how many times clutches fail and bikes shoot out in to insersections? I'm fairly certain one happens more often than the other.

To be honest, I do not feel leaving my bike in gear is a very effective way of avoiding being rearended. I think wedging myself between two cars takes care of that quite sufficiently.

How you can watch behind you well enough to be able to determine the car is not going to stop and that you should chance it with cross traffic is beyond me.

dyna mo · 12-19-2010, 10:29 PM

i always split the lane waiting at a red light. safest spot at the intersection.

baddog · 12-19-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i always split the lane waiting at a red light. safest spot at the intersection.

Well, I always do when I can, but there are not always cars in front of me.

jimmy-3-way · 12-19-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i always split the lane waiting at a red light. safest spot at the intersection.

I just run lights. Full face lid means no ticket!

sojproductions · 12-20-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'd recommend not even buying a bike yet. sign up for your local motorcycle safety foundation beginner riders class, the one that supplies bikes. take that class, ride their bike, then come back and ask about bikes.

Glad someone said it! best bit of advice

CamTraffic · 12-20-2010, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultlexicon

A friend of me bought one in Cambodia and drove it all the way back to the Netherlands something like 10.000 miles, but these thing are pieces of crap, only ment for cheap transportation.

he probably bought a knock off bike...

Vietnamese are doing is with Vespa, they are ALL OVER eBay selling fake shit

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Originally Posted by CPA37710T

So i ended up getting a 200cc Kawasaki Ninja bike... lets see how it goes, if i die please attend the funeral lol

thanks !

Great pick! now post pics!

Frasier · 12-20-2010, 06:00 AM

VMAX is not a pig, this is a pig - but holy mother of god it's a scary beast

edit: My first bike was a Yamaha Virago 750 and I learned in Orange County, Cali about 20 years ago. I do not currently own a bike but may get another soon

Elliot Caine · 12-20-2010, 06:36 AM

Sounds like you want a sport bike thats a harley.

Get a xr1200 , it does everything you'll want it to. BUT, get it after you've had a 250 for a year or two.

Be safe, not sorry. I've been riding for years and I always try to lower my risk as much as possible.

Adultlexicon · 12-20-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

he probably bought a knock off bike...

Vietnamese are doing is with Vespa, they are ALL OVER eBay selling fake shit

Great pick! now post pics!

No his Enfield isnt fake, i said that they are peices of shit because they build these bikes on 50 year old technology and they are slow as hell, they are ment for cheap transport, not to have a fun ride.

dyna mo · 12-20-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, I always do when I can, but there are not always cars in front of me.

i don't have to have cars around to split a lane.

Grapesoda · 12-20-2010, 09:03 AM

enfield licensed the design to some Indian company in the 50's so they still make basically a 50's enfield even though the company went out of biz years ago

GTS Mark · 12-20-2010, 09:14 AM

My first bike was a 600 Suzuki Katana or as everyone else calls it "can-a-tuna" haha!

Good looking bike but very tame compared to many higher end torquey bikes in the 600 range. Great bike to learn on and when you're ready for more power it's an easy bike to sell.

Personally my next bike will probably be a Honda VFR 800.

GTS Mark · 12-20-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CPA37710T

So i ended up getting a 200cc Kawasaki Ninja bike... lets see how it goes, if i die please attend the funeral lol

thanks !

Congrats enjoy it! Keep the shiny side up

DateDoc · 12-20-2010, 10:09 AM

http://www.confederate.com/

WarChild · 12-20-2010, 10:10 AM

My very first bike ever was a 1981 Honda CB400T. Ahh the memories!

baddog · 12-20-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultlexicon

No his Enfield isnt fake, i said that they are peices of shit because they build these bikes on 50 year old technology and they are slow as hell, they are ment for cheap transport, not to have a fun ride.

You are incorrect, unless your friend bought an old Enfield.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

enfield licensed the design to some Indian company in the 50's so they still make basically a 50's enfield even though the company went out of biz years ago

Today's Enfield is a 500cc with fuel injection, solid state ignition and a Harley-Davidson valve train.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't have to have cars around to split a lane.

So, if you come up to a two lane intersection, and you are the only vehicle there, you stop on the white lane dividing the two lanes?

What do the cars that come up behind you do?

jimmy-3-way · 12-20-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are incorrect, unless your friend bought an old Enfield.

http://www.royalenfield.com/

"Welcome to Royal Enfield Motorcycles | Motorcycle India"

dyna mo · 12-20-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, if you come up to a two lane intersection, and you are the only vehicle there, you stop on the white lane dividing the two lanes?

What do the cars that come up behind you do?

in general, when i split lanes i don't stay on the stripes for long, i always ride just to the left/right of the stripes. but to answer your question, i do stay to the side, outside the tire track but inside the stripe. cars pulling up behind do what they usually do, pull up too close! no way around that one.

i don't do that in the right lane as cars wanting to turn right will pull up next to me and try to turn. but i have a tendency to stay in the left lanes/fast lanes anyway.

baddog · 12-20-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

http://www.royalenfield.com/

"Welcome to Royal Enfield Motorcycles | Motorcycle India"

I knew I should have dissected his comment for some of you. Yes, I am fully aware that India sells them now. The part he was incorrect about, and that I was correcting him about was the claim that the technology was 50 years old. I made the mistake of presuming that you might pick that up with the following response I made to bm.

Sorry.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

in general, when i split lanes i don't stay on the stripes for long, i always ride just to the left/right of the stripes. but to answer your question, i do stay to the side, outside the tire track but inside the stripe. cars pulling up behind do what they usually do, pull up too close! no way around that one.

i don't do that in the right lane as cars wanting to turn right will pull up next to me and try to turn. but i have a tendency to stay in the left lanes/fast lanes anyway.

Again, not sure how you are splitting lanes if by yourself. Or why. I still stand by my contention that sitting at a signal, in gear is insane. I would never do it on a motorcycle or driving a standard transmission car.

dyna mo · 12-20-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Again, not sure how you are splitting lanes if by yourself. Or why. I still stand by my contention that sitting at a signal, in gear is insane. I would never do it on a motorcycle or driving a standard transmission car.

no worries. all i said was i split the lane while stopped at intersections regardless of whether or not a car is there, i believe it's safer to be to the side of a lane sitting at a stoplight. my style.

as for staying in gear, it depends on whether or not i think the light will be changing soon, if i have to pull my underwear out of my ass, wipe the snot off my nose, etc. case by case basis depending on the situation.

WarChild · 12-20-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Again, not sure how you are splitting lanes if by yourself. Or why. I still stand by my contention that sitting at a signal, in gear is insane. I would never do it on a motorcycle or driving a standard transmission car.

Insane? You don't think that's a bit strongly worded?

Would it surprise you to find out that the Motorcycyle Safety Foundation disagrees with you. In fact, since you're so strongly ("insane") against keeping a bike in gear, and they in fact teach and reccomend it, it's fair to say they strongly disagree with you.

In fact, in the rider's handbook they publish as course material they have the following to say:

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When stopped, waiting to turn or for a light to change, check behind you occasionally for vehicles approaching. Flash the brake light as someone approaches from the rear. Have an escape plan and remain in 1st gear.

The Motorcycle Safety Foundation® is the internationally recognized developer of the comprehensive, research-based, Rider Education and Training System (MSF RETS). RETS curricula promotes lifelong-learning for motorcyclists and continuous professional development for certified RiderCoaches and other trainers. MSF also actively participates in government relations, safety research, public awareness campaigns and the provision of technical assistance to state training and licensing programs. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation is a national, not-for-profit organization sponsored by BMW, BRP, Ducati, Harley-Davidson, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, Piaggio, Suzuki, Triumph, Victory and Yamaha.
http://www.msf-usa.org/CurriculumMat...71_noprint.pdf

Honestly, I like you but from time to time you get these stubborn ideas in your head and it really seems like you refuse to apply critical thought to them. Perhaps back when you first started riding things were different with these "suicide clutches" you mention. Things change. We don't pump our brakes in a panic stop in cars anymore either, we just keep them firmly pressed for ABS to take care of it.

You mentioned you were going to ask your son and good girl what they were taught. You should do that. Bet the answer surprises you.

dyna mo · 12-20-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Have an escape plan

this is my motivation for *splitting* the lanes waiting at an intersection. I don't sit at intersections with my eyes glued to my rear view mirrors and ready to launch if i see a car approaching in such a way that makes me think i need to get out of the way. by sitting off to the side, i believe that puts me in a better spot to not get crashed into by a cager coming up unnoticed from behind. a pre-emptive escape plan.

V_RocKs · 01-12-2011, 10:52 AM

Nice bikes

12-17-2010, 06:33 PM	#53
scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	I started on a 600 CBR and learned, loved it, painted it, rode it into the ground sold it. Now I own the green Ninja posted earlier. 250 is all I need in a remote beach home. Get the 600+ imo if youre in a resonably safe urban environment. Def. keep the fear and don;t get too comfortable. Thats when accident happen. __________________ AsiaMoviePass My Best Rebilling Site

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CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,537	start with a 125cc Don't get a fast bike if you have no experience, or this is what will (probably) happen: Honda shadows are actually great bikes to learn on: http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...oq=&gs_rf ai= this is what i want next: get used to the road, the danger comes mostly from other people ( driving cars) i would give it 6 month then get a bigger one Good luck __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE! Last edited by CamTraffic; 12-17-2010 at 07:31 PM..

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scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	Ya practice, hone your skills, I totally agree. what I mean by don't get too comfortable. Careful of the little old lady abruptly changing lanes or the semi spitting huge trunks of tire treads. Be aware of whos around you and don't sit next to vehicles. Leave the bike in gear at lights and space between cars so you don't get sandwhiched ny a drunk driver. Slow down for EVERY intersection. It could save your life by not getting too comfy while riding. As in life hope for the best but expect the worst and be prepared. I've seen / been aqaunted with 1 dead riders and another confined to a wheelchair for life. Both involved alcohol and speeding down residential streets. Cars simply pulled out in front of them at intersections... and boom. they were both teens. __________________ AsiaMoviePass My Best Rebilling Site Last edited by scubadiver626; 12-19-2010 at 01:42 PM..

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scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	It's been so long I forget. But I often catch myself in neutral, breaking my own rule. Then again if it's a weekend party night i'm more aware of what's pulling up behind me. Ya im pretty much a worry wart rider. 2 young kids that want bikes doesnt help. __________________ AsiaMoviePass My Best Rebilling Site

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iamtam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,211	whatever bike you buy, please sign your organ donor card. it will make someone (or more than one someone) happy some point in the future.

12-17-2010, 06:56 PM	#55
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,098	i'm not so sure i agree with the riding in fear advice. it's more about confidence of skills and awareness.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I ride with my eyes closed because it is so scary out there.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	These are cooler than any rice grinder, inexpensive and an easy bike for a beginner.

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Adultlexicon Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 816	Me and my GF own a buell xb 9 sx great handling not too much power but enough to have a great time and a v-twin sound, they probaly don't cost shit in the US i also love this bike but its about 50K US dollars

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klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	royal enfield= king, but it's not sportsbike :-P

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CPA37710T business ready hit me up! Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nearby Posts: 1,115	So i ended up getting a 200cc Kawasaki Ninja bike... lets see how it goes, if i die please attend the funeral lol thanks !

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,098	i always split the lane waiting at a red light. safest spot at the intersection.

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Frasier Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 377	VMAX is not a pig, this is a pig - but holy mother of god it's a scary beast edit: My first bike was a Yamaha Virago 750 and I learned in Orange County, Cali about 20 years ago. I do not currently own a bike but may get another soon __________________ ICQ 452 one six 7 five 41 Last edited by Frasier; 12-20-2010 at 06:03 AM..

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Elliot Caine Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 39	Sounds like you want a sport bike thats a harley. Get a xr1200 , it does everything you'll want it to. BUT, get it after you've had a 250 for a year or two. Be safe, not sorry. I've been riding for years and I always try to lower my risk as much as possible. __________________ ICQ # - 648085023

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Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	enfield licensed the design to some Indian company in the 50's so they still make basically a 50's enfield even though the company went out of biz years ago

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	My first bike was a 600 Suzuki Katana or as everyone else calls it "can-a-tuna" haha! Good looking bike but very tame compared to many higher end torquey bikes in the 600 range. Great bike to learn on and when you're ready for more power it's an easy bike to sell. Personally my next bike will probably be a Honda VFR 800.

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