USA - you fucking coward ass - shooting people with 30mm gun

[Overload]

must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america?

[Emil]

You're a couple of months after, but yeah, they're pretty trigger-happy...

[ottopottomouse]

You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

[AtlantisCash]

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[CaptainHowdy]

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[L-Pink]

And you think that was the plan when the helicopters took off vs shit happens in a combat zone? Get real.


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[2intense]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Overload

must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america?

that was great..

do you have any more of those?

i love to see the USA show its strength...

we need to patrol all of Iraq and Afghanistan with these helicopters and show these people who's boss when they get out of line...






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[~Ray]

hindsight is 20 / 20

[FreeHugeMovies]

Welcome to last YEAR we've been expecting you.

[Seth Manson]

I love the smell of depleted uranium rounds in the morning.

[DEA - banned for life]

Originally Posted by Overload

must feel good shooting reporters and kids eh?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcu...wikileaks_news

you still ask yourself why ppl dont like america?

Calling the whole countyr of USA cowards on a forum from the confines of your home is somewhat cowardice

atleast you will get the views and responses you were looking for by starting this silly thread lol

[cooldude7]

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

You're a bit fucking easy to dump propaganda into.

what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

hindsight is 20 / 20

So's a gunsight.

[Paul Markham]

Thankfully these guys would never turn their guns on American citizens armed and rebelling.

Makes me sleep peaceful at night knowing they only do it to foreigners.

[DEA - banned for life]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thankfully these guys would never turn their guns on American citizens armed and rebelling.

Makes me sleep peaceful at night knowing they only do it to foreigners.

i thought you said "rebilling"

hope it doesnt come to that

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is...





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[SmokeyTheBear]

some people quickly forget we had no reason to invade iraq and no reason to be there now. Dont you remember the wmd's that never existed ? iraq never attacked americans. There was no threat or ability to attack us.. if you point a gun at someone , YOU are the enemy.

Imagine if iraq or china or israel attacked us based on complete bullshit lies ? i suppose you would accept them as your overlords and do everything they say ?

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what part of the video did you feel was propaganda ? the part where they let the kids die ? the part they ran over a body ? or the part they shot unarmed wounded people ?

The part where it was all annotated with hindsight.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

some people quickly forget we had no reason to invade iraq and no reason to be there now. Dont you remember the wmd's that never existed ? iraq never attacked americans. There was no threat or ability to attack us.. if you point a gun at someone , YOU are the enemy.

Imagine if iraq or china or israel attacked us based on complete bullshit lies ? i suppose you would accept them as your overlords and do everything they say ?

Bush had a very good reason to invade. It's called money.

He even deluded himself into thinking the Iraqis would ALL welcome the US invaders as liberators.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

there's a word for all that...

its called war...

he said it was propaganda not war, and i asked what part ? pretty simple question.

but to get to your point, there are rules for war , the video clearly shows we broke them. besides the fact we never should have been there and the fact we shouldn't be there now. no threat to us whatsoever.

War is when 2 sides agree to "war" , in this case its just ethnic cleansing. there is no army to fight , just confused people not understanding why they are being invaded.

Originally Posted by marketsmart

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is...

maybe we should stop

do you have kids ? if one was hit by a car, would you understand if the doctor said "it is what it is , we could help your child but hey , it's an accident , people die "

"it is what it is" is a lame excuse for doing nothing to prevent it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

The part where it was all annotated with hindsight.

totally agree they should have left that part until the end. let the video speak for itself then add in their point of view if they want. those annotations influence your opinion of the video while watching. I totally agree that was lame, but much of the video speaks for itself.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is...

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there a word for people who touch little kids

its called child molesting

it's not pretty , it's not fair but using your theory " it is what it is" and there is no reason to do anything to speak out about it , or to stop it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

simple fact is , if we leave iraq today , we wont kill anymore innocent kids and none of our military gets killed. seems like a pretty simple solution..

[TheLegacy]

Anytime civilians die it is sad - adults - moms/dads or children. I personally don't think you or anyone on this board has the right or information to make such a claim against USA much less experience to know in the heat of battle how to react

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

he said it was propaganda not war, and i asked what part ? pretty simple question.

but to get to your point, there are rules for war , the video clearly shows we broke them. besides the fact we never should have been there and the fact we shouldn't be there now. no threat to us whatsoever.

War is when 2 sides agree to "war" , in this case its just ethnic cleansing. there is no army to fight , just confused people not understanding why they are being invaded.




maybe we should stop

do you have kids ? if one was hit by a car, would you understand if the doctor said "it is what it is , we could help your child but hey , it's an accident , people die "

"it is what it is" is a lame excuse for doing nothing to prevent it.

i choose not to get emotional about things i cannot control...

this video is nothing compared to the mass killings of people in africa on a daily basis and the US and rest of the world do nothing about it..

and in regards to rules of war... there are no rules in war.. civilized countries hide behind the geneva convention while behind closed doors they violate it..

uncivilized countries dont follow any rules when it comes to warfare..

unless people are willing to stop consuming products from corporations that will do anything to make a profit, you will always have wars and you will always have senseless killing...

so, can i have your commitment to stop supporting corporatism today since you feel so strongly about this?







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[cykoe6]

Very cool video...... nice to see our boys taking care of business...... having said that...... I am pretty sure that this video was released about a year ago and already had about 100 threads dedicated to it.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

So's a gunsight.

zingggg g

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I personally don't think you or anyone on this board has the right or information to make such a claim against USA

2 issues the "right" to make a claim and the "information" to make a claim..


i think anyone has the "right" to say whatever they want, if they want to be taken seriously they should probably start with information.

The "claim" in this thread "usa you fucking coward ass" is more of a comment or an outburst than a claim, but i think his point was "american policy is cowardly" , not saying i agree or disagree but i think that is the "point" so no point in quibbling over word use or being offended if you are american. I am american and canadian and i think many of both countries policies are stupid/cowardly/ignorant among other things, doesn't mean i am not proud to be canadian, american, british etc

[Rochard]

Yeah, they were really fucking innocent.

The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

The video clearly points out that two reporters were killed. Sounds horrible on the surface, but the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty. In other words, the reporters weren't "with this group by chance"; They were reporting on this group and what they did - and got caught in the cross fire. That's the risk they take. So did two kids. It's called collateral damage, and it's ugly nasty side effect of warfare.

This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

and in regards to rules of war... there are no rules in war..

there are though , legal laws and "unwritten" ones.

we don't castrate prisoners do we ?

Originally Posted by marketsmart

civilized countries hide behind the geneva convention while behind closed doors they violate it..

uncivilized countries dont follow any rules when it comes to warfare..

backwards talk, if behind closed doors they violate them , then they are uncivilized. either every country is uncivilized and follows no rules or some countries follow some rules..

if you agree some countries follow some rules and those countries are better then you agree following the rules makes you a more civilized country , and to commit uncivilized actions make you less of a country then you must agree we need to stop uncivilized things like killing unarmed civilians, murdering wounded enemies, killing medical workers etc etc

Originally Posted by marketsmart

unless people are willing to stop consuming products from corporations that will do anything to make a profit, you will always have wars and you will always have senseless killing...

i haven't seen anything posted to suggest this is true. Make corporations more accountable for their actions.

Originally Posted by marketsmart

so, can i have your commitment to stop supporting corporatism today since you feel so strongly about this?

do i have your commitment to stop eating peanut butter since you feel so strongly about this ?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yeah, they were really fucking innocent.

The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

The video clearly points out that two reporters were killed. Sounds horrible on the surface, but the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty. In other words, the reporters weren't "with this group by chance"; They were reporting on this group and what they did - and got caught in the cross fire. That's the risk they take. So did two kids. It's called collateral damage, and it's ugly nasty side effect of warfare.

This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.

so what you're saying is Reuters declared war on the US?

makes one wonder why we even bothered with those pesky Geneva Conventions

[Sly]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

so what you're saying is Reuters declared war on the US?

makes one wonder why we even bothered with those pesky Geneva Conventions

If you spot a reporter, kill everyone within a 20 foot radius. Obviously they all must be terrorists.

[Vendzilla]

Would it have better if they used 10mm guns?

We really need to pull out of those countries and stop being the world police, we can't afford that anymore, never really could

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The reason why no one is upset about this is because this group of people were involved in a attack against an Army unit. From the air, ten minutes after a fire fight, it looks like they are just a group of people out for a stroll.

the guys wearing button up shirts and casual attire ? the 2 kids ? the journalists with cameras ?

this is the first i have heard of this , why not simply post the video of the firefight they were involved with , showing the people involved ? how come nobody in the video mentioned this ?

Originally Posted by Rochard

the fact that two reporters were with this group proves this group was guilty.

how do you figure ? reuters cameramen are with groups of people all the time, you saying that the white house is all guilty because reuters camermen are there ?

Originally Posted by Rochard

They were reporting on this group and what they did

i haven't seen anything about what they were reporting on , they died so it's unlikely they told you .. any facts on this ?

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is what happens when you attack US troops. We fire back. And we have a lot of fucking firepower.

problem is the kids certainly didn't attack US troops , there was no reason for them to die and no evidence i have seen to even say they attacked us troops.

Thats not the way we do things here , not the way we should be doing them there.

you simply don't kill people who do not pose a threat. we don't kill people because of what "might" happen. If we did every time a cop pulled someone over they would shoot them just in case they had a gun.

Besides the fact there is no good reason for us to have invaded or to still be there.

[moeloubani]

I've always said American soldiers were the biggest cowards. I think I started this exact thread a while ago which is weird, with the same video, calling the US soldiers cowards.

[theking]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the guys wearing button up shirts and casual attire ? the 2 kids ? the journalists with cameras ?

this is the first i have heard of this , why not simply post the video of the firefight they were involved with , showing the people involved ? how come nobody in the video mentioned this ?





how do you figure ? reuters cameramen are with groups of people all the time, you saying that the white house is all guilty because reuters camermen are there ?




i haven't seen anything about what they were reporting on , they died so it's unlikely they told you .. any facts on this ?



problem is the kids certainly didn't attack US troops , there was no reason for them to die and no evidence i have seen to even say they attacked us troops.

Thats not the way we do things here , not the way we should be doing them there.

you simply don't kill people who do not pose a threat. we don't kill people because of what "might" happen. If we did every time a cop pulled someone over they would shoot them just in case they had a gun.

Besides the fact there is no good reason for us to have invaded or to still be there.

There were multiple reasons for invading Iraq...and there are multiple reasons to still have troops there...and it is just your opinion that there are not any good reasons.

Troops belonging to Combat Arms were withdrawn several months ago.

[CDSmith]

Easy to play armchair quarterback and second guess motives etc with a video like that.

I'd like to hear first-hand what the soldiers themselves had to say about it before passing judgement, or spewing out sweeping generalizations.

But that's just me. I like to get the full story before calling out a country for cowardice.

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

there's a word for all that...

its called war...

its not pretty, it's not fair, and its usually unnecessary, but it is what it is...





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yeah youre right

thats exactly what they are saying about 9-11

[theking]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Easy to play armchair quarterback and second guess motives etc with a video like that.

I'd like to hear first-hand what the soldiers themselves had to say about it before passing judgement, or spewing out sweeping generalizations.

But that's just me. I like to get the full story before calling out a country for cowardice.

Once again you display your good common sense...an apparent rare thing among your fellow Canadians...at least the ones on this board.

I can tell you...having engaged in combat myself...on multiple occasions...that they followed their rules of engagement (as can be heard on the video) but I am sure that they are sadden about the loss of the children...but will not lose any more sleep over the engagement than thousands of other soldiers that have engaged in combat operations. Engaging in combat is not a pleasant experience.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Sly

If you spot a reporter, kill everyone within a 20 foot radius. Obviously they all must be terrorists.

sarcasm aside, how did the US/Iraq military take into account reporters with body guards? Considering what was going on at the time, it's hard to figure out the logic of that Gunner about a bunch of insurgents walking through a square in broad daylight with choppers and military bearing down on them

it's not like helicopters are quiet.

[webair]

Yea the guy pointing the RPG at them had no bearing what so ever as to their decision to fire.

Conngrats on 2k posts!

[EZRhino]

War sucks. I would like to see a honset investigation about what happened there. But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area. I dont give a fuck if it was for humanitarian reasons. Leave the fucking kids at home.

[EZRhino]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

sarcasm aside, how did the US/Iraq military take into account reporters with body guards? Considering what was going on at the time, it's hard to figure out the logic of that Gunner about a bunch of insurgents walking through a square in broad daylight with choppers and military bearing down on them

it's not like helicopters are quiet.

When you are in a place with a lot of helicopter air traffic its really easy to block out the sound but in real life those Apache choppers can really sneak up on you quick. And the stand off distance is pretty far. They would be usuless if the enemy can see them coming.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

When you are in a place with a lot of helicopter air traffic its really easy to block out the sound but in real life those Apache choppers can really sneak up on you quick. And the stand off distance is pretty far. They would be usuless if the enemy can see them coming.

the air traffic is a good point.

Again, all that is very reasonable but kinda backs up what i am saying. If one wants to be an insurgent for any longer than a day, they'd know that, wouldn't they?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by theking

There were multiple reasons for invading Iraq...and there are multiple reasons to still have troops there...and it is just your opinion that there are not any good reasons.

well lets hear some..

Originally Posted by theking

Troops belonging to Combat Arms were withdrawn several months ago.

are americans still dying ? yes
are iraqis still being killed by americans ? yes

how many americans will be killed by iraqis if there are none there ? 0
how many iraqis will be killed by americans if we aren't there ? 0

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area.

They do that so we can debate it later and someone can call them names?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

War sucks. I would like to see a honset investigation about what happened there. But at the end of the day what fucking idiot brings their kids to a impact area. I dont give a fuck if it was for humanitarian reasons. Leave the fucking kids at home.

maybe that is their house and they just arrived home to find their neighbors wounded and dying

[EZRhino]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

maybe that is their house and they just arrived home to find their neighbors wounded and dying

Its possible. That would be some of the worste timing, ever.