French arrest women for wearing burqa/Islamist veil in public

[pornrecon]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...eil-protesters

Paris police have detained two women wearing Islamic veils at a protest on the first day of France's ban on the face coverings.

The ban makes France the first country in the world to forbid the veils anywhere in public.

About a dozen people, including three women wearing veils, staged a protest in front of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris on Monday, and two women were taken away in a van.

Could you imagine if this happened in the USA? Christ we'd never hear the end of it. I have mixed feelings on the ban. On one hand it steps over a line of personal freedom, on the other, well, Europe is being swallowed up by Islamic immigrants who do not mix with the western society, but instead proselytize the population and create more muslims instead... if they do nothing their culture as they know if will be vastly transformed/erased by a hostile world view, right? Or no?

Thoughts?

[BJ]

Good. The world is not a game of Pac-Man

[cherrylula]

I like how you say "Christ we'd never hear the end of it." lol the irony

The French are really just being the fashion police. Those things look terrible on models walking down the runway.

[iv@n]

too late

[Babaganoosh]

I'm all for it but if we ban burqas then we'd have to ban yarmukels, and those stupid "jesus saves" trucker hats too.

[pornguy]

It most states it is illegal to cover your face in an attempt to hide your identity. Its not something thats enforced normally but its there.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I'm all for it but if we ban burqas then we'd have to ban yarmukels, and those stupid "jesus saves" trucker hats too.

except you can still see someones face with a yarmulke and a Jesus saves trucker hat. a burka is the same as walking around with a ski mask on which is pretty much illegal in the US.

BTW it pretty disgusting to me to cripple a womans identity that much

[Lint]

Yes, it is great! Next step would be to make them wear yellow badges...

[cherrylula]

I bet if a black guy walked into a liquor store with one of those on he wouldn't be excused for "religious freedom."

[BJ]

Thailand has a bunch of people (not muslim) who wear full face coverage because its so hot outside and having dark skin is not good here.

Its also the perfect way to stab someone.

[camperjohn64]

I used to live in France, and remember talking with an old lady that was very worried that they were "giving away the country" by letting so many immigrants into the country, that had no identity with the country: ie muslims and africans.

I think her fears are coming true and the burqua ban is totally acceptable. There are many ways to preserve your way of life and fight for your freedom, not all of them are done on battlefield.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

except you can still see someones face with a yarmulke and a Jesus saves trucker hat. a burka is the same as walking around with a ski mask on which is pretty much illegal in the US.

BTW it pretty disgusting to me to cripple a womans identity that much

Most states have an exemption written into the law about religious and medical coverings. Religion disgusts me in general so I am all for the ban anyway. You can't single out one religion though, they all have to take a hit.

[Lint]

oh... and ship em off to some ghettos too, so they do not pollute our superior culture further. then we'll figure out a final solution. i was thinking of a camp of some sort..? not sure this had been done before, so any ideas guys? logistics might be a problem, but i was thinking like cattle wagons.

anyway... i will be holding a conference about this in Wannsee, Berlin later this year, anyone want to come?

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by Lint

oh... and ship em off to some ghettos too, so they do not pollute our superior culture further. then we'll figure out a final solution. i was thinking of a camp of some sort..? not sure this had been done before, so any ideas guys? logistics might be a problem, but i was thinking like cattle wagons.

anyway... i will be holding a conference about this in Wannsee, Berlin later this year, anyone want to come?

Will there be cookies or pie? If so count me in.

BTW, you just invoked Godwin's law.

[DWB]

I'd like to note that many of them, even when flying and crossing international borders, do not have to show their face.

Huge security leak.

Fuck 'em, show your face like everyone else or get the fuck out. If you are unwilling to show your face, see ya.

[maxxtro]

[donnie]

Originally Posted by pornrecon

on the other, well, Europe is being swallowed up by Islamic immigrants who do not mix with the western society
Thoughts?

LOL

About 2% of Europe?s population is Muslim. And most of those ARE Europeans. They are as much immigrants to Europe as Germans or French.

But I really don?t expect you to understand that. Your Hitler jugend education is strong.

[michael.kickass]

I agree with the French authorities.

If a woman goes to their countries they're obliged to cover parts of their bodies and in the most extreme cases the face. That's just archaic.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Most states have an exemption written into the law about religious and medical coverings. Religion disgusts me in general so I am all for the ban anyway. You can't single out one religion though, they all have to take a hit.

sure ya can... been done for thousands of years in france they also outlawed wearing big ass crosses at school etc as well I belive

[BJ]

Dubai airport. A bunch of these fucks

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Lint

oh... and ship em off to some ghettos too, so they do not pollute our superior culture further. then we'll figure out a final solution. i was thinking of a camp of some sort..? not sure this had been done before, so any ideas guys? logistics might be a problem, but i was thinking like cattle wagons.

anyway... i will be holding a conference about this in Wannsee, Berlin later this year, anyone want to come?

hummm... Muslims refuse to integrate with ANY society and place themselves into segregated communities or ghettos... sorta like when blacks push for integration into a school the first they do is start black organizations becasue none can understand blacks like blacks do

[BlackCrayon]

i think it would be funny to ban immigration from third world countries for a decade or so and just see what happens. it would be an interesting social experiment.

[TeenCat]

you make a joke about their religion, they want to kill you, but they cannot respect your own laws ... we all see who we are dealing with ...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I bet if a black guy walked into a liquor store with one of those on he wouldn't be excused for "religious freedom."

duh because men don't wear them. it would be a robbery.

[Black All Through]

Originally Posted by Lint

Yes, it is great! Next step would be to make them wear yellow badges...

[O MARINA]

Originally Posted by BJ

Good. The world is not a game of Pac-Man

Achmed's wife Halimah should go to Saudi Arabia and feel entitled to wear heels and miniskirts and feel liberated.

[SmokeyTheBear]

it is illegal in most places to hide your face.

Try putting on a "scream" mask and walking into any police station, the will arrest you if you don't take it off.

[beerptrol]

they need to arrest the French women with hairy pits and legs too

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

it is illegal in most places to hide your face.

Try putting on a "scream" mask and walking into any police station, the will arrest you if you don't take it off.

These rules must be based on circumstance as every winter many people walk around with their faces covered. Oh, every October 31 as well.

By the way, France, banning veils is not going to stop your immigration problem. Next the United States will be banning refried beans!

[Rochard]

Obey the laws of the country your in. In some countries you can't hold hands or kiss in public, and you had better believe it that they will arrest you.

[Phoenix]

i agree with them, i have ninjas driving around in my neighbourhood,
there is no way they can see properly.

who knows what they are carrying underneath the wizard robes, or if they are even female.

i dare anyone on here to dress up as a ninja and walk into a bank

then decide if it is fair that because someone is muslim they get to live outside of the rest of society's rules

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Lint

Yes, it is great! Next step would be to make them wear yellow badges...

[jigga]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

hummm... Muslims refuse to integrate with ANY society and place themselves into segregated communities or ghettos... sorta like when blacks push for integration into a school the first they do is start black organizations becasue none can understand blacks like blacks do

Blacks pushed for integration not because they loved their white counterpart but because their white counterpart had funding and opportunities that their "second class" status did not.

There are tons of Muslims living and integrating themselves in modernity. In fact, from what I read this Burqa law in France will only effect a few thousand women so it's just a stupid law meant to grab votes.

But ignorance is bliss, right?

[Jack Sparrow]

Good job.

Go to any islamic country, take of your shirt and leave your shoes on and step into a mosque and see what happens.

Get a girl to bath topless there, and see what happens.

Arrestinh them is s nice thing compared to what some of those countries would do..

[Scott McD]

Well done to France first of all for the ban!

The UK would never have to balls to even consider it. In shopping malls, airports, theme parks here you see loads of people covered up in those stupid burkas. I remember being at the airport once and they wouldn't let me through unless i took off my baseball cap. Yet those assholes just breezed through as usual.


So fuck them! If they don't like the ban, leave the country. Should never have been allowed in the first place.

Let's see who is next to ban them. It won't be the UK anyway...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Go to any islamic country, take of your shirt and leave your shoes on and step into a mosque and see what happens.

Get a girl to bath topless there, and see what happens...

Exactly!

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I bet if a black guy walked into a liquor store with one of those on he wouldn't be excused for "religious freedom."

[Rochard]

I just read this on Yahoo news:

The law is worded to trip safely through legal minefields: The words "women," "Muslim" and "veil" are not even mentioned. The law says it is illegal to hide the face in the public space.

So they aren't targeting Muslims or women who wear veils. Instead, they are clearly targeting Ninjas.

[Bladewire]

American & British tourists have been ARRESTED AND JAILED many times for kissing in public in Dubai - the most lenient of the UAE.

I have no problem with what the French are doing.

Goto a Middle Eastern country with a woman wearing shorts and a t-shirt, see what happens ;)

I had a friend visiting the Middle East with family and she was forced to fully cover up and her parents were offered multiple times, by multiple men, any number of HORSES in turn for her hand in marriage. She has blond hair and blue eyes. She was 16 at the time.

Yes these are the people you are dealing with.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

That's clearly a white Jewish woman

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

I had a friend visiting the Middle East with family and she was forced to fully cover up and her parents were offered multiple times, by multiple men, any number of HORSES in turn for her hand in marriage. She has blond hair and blue eyes. She was 16 at the time.

Yes these are the people you are dealing with.

I am not a fan of Arabs but you need to take the offers with a pinch of salt.

they are just messing around....

even few years back traveling with a friend in North Africa local fags would offer us horses/camels..

It's like an asian bar girl calling someone handsome man, doesn't mean shit

[TheLegacy]

I've always been for equality and sadly this isn't one of the situations.

They demand religious freedom when visiting or living here - but refuse to offer the same in their home country. Just should be a standard rule - you want to visit or live in a country then abide by the laws of that country

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

I am not a fan of Arabs but you need to take the offers with a pinch of salt.

they are just messing around....

even few years back traveling with a friend in North Africa local fags would offer us horses/camels..

It's like an asian bar girl calling someone handsome man, doesn't mean shit

How do you take being arrested and jailed for kissing in public with a grain of salt? Just a joke the locals play on Western foreigners?

Also my best friend growing up was an immigrant from Iran. His family and their Iranian friends were warm and wonderful people. They've taught me a lot about their culture and told me many stories. They left for a reason and the wife was beautiful and happy not to be forced to cover up all in black and wear a veil ;)

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

How do you take being arrested and jailed for kissing in public with a grain of salt? Just a joke the locals play on Western foreigners?

WTF are you on about??

I quoted your story about a friend being offered horses. Don't remember making a comment about anything else.

Personally I dislike the whole of the UAE , Dubai included.

not only because it is muslim but because it is a fascist society, where immigrants (not only women) live in slavery.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

American & British tourists have been ARRESTED AND JAILED many times for kissing in public in Dubai - the most lenient of the UAE.

I have no problem with what the French are doing.

Goto a Middle Eastern country with a woman wearing shorts and a t-shirt, see what happens ;)

Yep, yet people still see this ban as an outrage!

Fucking idiots...

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

American & British tourists have been ARRESTED AND JAILED many times for kissing in public in Dubai - the most lenient of the UAE.

I have no problem with what the French are doing.

Goto a Middle Eastern country with a woman wearing shorts and a t-shirt, see what happens ;)

I had a friend visiting the Middle East with family and she was forced to fully cover up and her parents were offered multiple times, by multiple men, any number of HORSES in turn for her hand in marriage. She has blond hair and blue eyes. She was 16 at the time.

Yes these are the people you are dealing with.

so society needs to be like UAE for you to become concerned? i'm confused

[PR_Glen]

burkas are hot..

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

except you can still see someones face with a yarmulke and a Jesus saves trucker hat. a burka is the same as walking around with a ski mask on which is pretty much illegal in the US.

BTW it pretty disgusting to me to cripple a womans identity that much

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I've always been for equality and sadly this isn't one of the situations.

They demand religious freedom when visiting or living here - but refuse to offer the same in their home country. Just should be a standard rule - you want to visit or live in a country then abide by the laws of that country

So your position is : "If the country that they flee from is shit and backwards we should
become backwards shit and do the same."

I got it.

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I've always been for equality and sadly this isn't one of the situations.

They demand religious freedom when visiting or living here - but refuse to offer the same in their home country. Just should be a standard rule - you want to visit or live in a country then abide by the laws of that country