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Old 05-09-2011, 04:23 AM   #1
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Choker inside please

I have the camsite ready (streamate full wl).
I have loaded a new account on choker traffic with $400 like you asked.

I can start sending traffic, and get our discussion going to see how well/bad different traffic brokers do with their premium traffic.

All exactly like you and me agreed on.

If you want to manage the traffic buy for the funds in my account: now is the time to say so.

If you want to optimize it and have a better shot at ending up top be my guest. If not, i will be buying the premium usa only traffic for the full amount. I checked out dating, but it confused me as you could only deliver a handfull of hits per hour for $50 a k. Maybe i read it wrong, also said 20+ conversions per k for some of the packages but i guess that isnt guaranteed?

If i dont hear from you i will assume i can go ahead and start testing your traffic later on tonight and post the results 5 days after the last hit came in. Then, i will move on to the next broker and do the same thing.

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Old 05-09-2011, 04:35 AM   #2
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what, you dont have his email address? this is a private convo.

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Old 05-09-2011, 04:50 AM   #3
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:25 AM   #5
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what, you dont have his email address? this is a private convo.

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No its not.

You might have missed the thread. But this is about countertesting broker traffic on camsites. A lot of people have been waiting for this, so theres nothing private about it.

I'll be posting stats in PUBLIC of different trafficbrokers, to the same site.
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This could be interesting so I bought some for everyone.

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It's been a bit since I read the post but wasn't it supposed to be like 4 or 5 different sites. Not trolling, just thought I remember it initially being a competition between cam sites or something along those lines.
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The last broker will do the best. People comeback and sign up all the time so you can't use the same wl for the test.
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Good call on testing some traffic from brokers. Can't wait to hear these results!
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Does streamate have to manually set you up a whitelabel? I didn't see anything about it in the affiliate program.
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Good call on testing some traffic from brokers. Can't wait to hear these results!
I want to do this thuroughly so we dont get into some lame excuses and bullshit, but in the end you will all get the results
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No its not.

You might have missed the thread. But this is about countertesting broker traffic on camsites. A lot of people have been waiting for this, so theres nothing private about it.

I'll be posting stats in PUBLIC of different trafficbrokers, to the same site.
ah ya i missed it. sounds cool tho

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he will back out as usual like all his lame contest threads with no prizes.
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he will back out as usual like all his lame contest threads with no prizes.
No chance on backing out. I loaded my account on choker, if he doesnt reply tonight i will buy his premium US only traffic and start sending it.

He will come up with some lame excuses off course, on why it didnt work (assuming it didnt, if he did get me more sales or even an amount equal to what i spend i will post about it too).

What i really dont understand though is his dating traffic. Only a handfull of hits, and $50 per 1000. And then theres this info on conversions, some say 24 conversions per k. If thats guaranteed, i will buy from him the next year if true
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I have the camsite ready (streamate full wl).
I have loaded a new account on choker traffic with $400 like you asked.

I can start sending traffic, and get our discussion going to see how well/bad different traffic brokers do with their premium traffic.

All exactly like you and me agreed on.

If you want to manage the traffic buy for the funds in my account: now is the time to say so.

If you want to optimize it and have a better shot at ending up top be my guest. If not, i will be buying the premium usa only traffic for the full amount. I checked out dating, but it confused me as you could only deliver a handfull of hits per hour for $50 a k. Maybe i read it wrong, also said 20+ conversions per k for some of the packages but i guess that isnt guaranteed?

If i dont hear from you i will assume i can go ahead and start testing your traffic later on tonight and post the results 5 days after the last hit came in. Then, i will move on to the next broker and do the same thing.

Regards.
As usual you twist and manipulate shit. I said no whitelabels, what part of no whitelabels don't you understand? the reason for this is simple, I already sell to the big cam sites so the same surfer would see the same shit twice in one day. And also this is supposed to be what 5 brokers sending at the exact same time. When you have funds on 4 other brokers and ready to go let me know. Until then you can stick your manipulitve bullshit up you ass. And you honestly think this contest is for a whitelable you own? Thats not what we agreed upon, you are by far the most manipulitive piece of shit I have ever ever known.
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he will back out as usual like all his lame contest threads with no prizes.
Show me a contest thread where I have not paid out? If it's the last one, well I was warned to stop it or else get banned as it apeared to be a personal attack thread. I have had many contests and don't remember them all, if there is one other than the last one I did not pay out on let me know.
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Show me a contest thread where I have not paid out? If it's the last one, well I was warned to stop it or else get banned as it apeared to be a personal attack thread. I have had many contests and don't remember them all, if there is one other than the last one I did not pay out on let me know.
the one about frisky. don't think anyone was ever paid for the box and safe ones.
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the one about frisky. don't think anyone was ever paid for the box and safe ones.
Pretty sure i paid out on the safe ones, if not ill find it, the last one is the one I was warned about. Way back when Eric closed a thread and warned me about a personal attack on Frisky
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So is the contest still on?
As far as I'm concerned yes, Frisky keeps changing the conditions and throws it at me as if I'm backing out. What started as a contest where he agreed to buy from 5 brokers and send all traffic at the exact same time to a webcam site he has changed into buying my traffic only and sending to his own whitelabel. I will admit, he is very good at manipulation.
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These things never end well.

Traffic Brokers never show there penis.

Frankly I am surprised Choker would even do business with the OP.
Funnier is this is dating traffic on dating traffic...

Traffic Brokers love dealing dating traffic. It's so easy to get.
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These things never end well.

Traffic Brokers never show there penis.

Frankly I am surprised Choker would even do business with the OP.
Is it over "there" ;) Sounds like it's game time... I'm curious to the outcome. How long does $500 premium cam traffic take to deliver?
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Is it over "there" ;) Sounds like it's game time... I'm curious to the outcome. How long does $500 premium cam traffic take to deliver?
Not long because it is all back pop console trades and annoying floating div layers.

Tube traffic = Dating Traffic = Shit traffic.
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These things never end well.

Traffic Brokers never show there penis.

Frankly I am surprised Choker would even do business with the OP.
Funnier is this is dating traffic on dating traffic...

Traffic Brokers love dealing dating traffic. It's so easy to get.
I don't want to do business with him, he made a challenge I accepted, now he's trying to change and manipulate it to make it apear that I'm backing out. I've really had it with this bitch Frisky. Why would anyone do business with such a manipulitive cunt? Oh right nobody does. LOL
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Frisky? as in the late Fris?

That explain's everything.
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Here we go again.

Choker backing out, lame excuses about silly rules, twisting and dancing.

I think agent 488 is talking about 2 x 10k bets you lost and then went for the same twist and dance to get out of the bet.

I dont care to be honest.

I will take you premium traffic and send it to a FULL whitelabel, not just a domain/url redirect thingie. Surfers signup ON the site, and comeback TO that site if they want to login etc. So you can stick you whitelabel bullshit where the sun dont shine because it is just that: Another lame excuse!

The conditions where very clear, i dont mind how much you try to backpeddle out of it.

Stats will be posted. Fair enough for all to see.
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Here we go again.

Choker backing out, lame excuses about silly rules, twisting and dancing.

I think agent 488 is talking about 2 x 10k bets you lost and then went for the same twist and dance to get out of the bet.

I dont care to be honest.

I will take you premium traffic and send it to a FULL whitelabel, not just a domain/url redirect thingie. Surfers signup ON the site, and comeback TO that site if they want to login etc. So you can stick you whitelabel bullshit where the sun dont shine because it is just that: Another lame excuse!

The conditions where very clear, i dont mind how much you try to backpeddle out of it.

Stats will be posted. Fair enough for all to see.
He clearly stated no whitelabel...and 5 brokers (including him) to been sent at the same time...end of story.
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Started sending traffic!

Hope it does well ;)
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Just a suggestion, but why don't both of yall just cut the public cat fight out and get back to work? Frisk, do what you tryin' to do to feel a lil important already and post the results (with proof) when you done so we can all flame you on why you fucked up by sending the wrong kind of traffic to the wrong pages and shit. Choke, save the excuses for later and just let the muh fucka buy your traffic and keep it movin' 'till he posts the results... then you can use your damn excuses.
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Just a suggestion, but why don't both of yall just cut the public cat fight out and get back to work? Frisk, do what you tryin' to do to feel a lil important already and post the results (with proof) when you done so we can all flame you on why you fucked up by sending the wrong kind of traffic to the wrong pages and shit. Choke, save the excuses for later and just let the muh fucka buy your traffic and keep it movin' 'till he posts the results... then you can use your damn excuses.
it makes sense. less catfight and more work
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Surely all the sources need to be sending at the same time for a proper comparison.
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You can compare traffic only if sending to a same web page. Cam sites change models online depending on time, may land on different model at same time on a random choser, and model change view every landing of every guy even if after a minute you get the same girl showing tits or gone away to pee and an empty sofa there, will convert worst then a minute before, you see?
Additionally, choker have dozens of niches, and you can blocklist some sites (example, will you blacklist shemale sites or not, etc.), so the configuration of filters can change it all.

Cam sites themselves (not the affiliates, the cam site) sure know what traffic converts best but will not share such information in GFY, especially if you find a good source you hope the other cam site not buy it (making it scarce availability ormore expensive), also you always hope the competitor will waste money in crap traffic so you not to warn others where the crap it is.

For example I buy from choker, trafficshop, trafficholder and others for my cam site(s) which is not a whitelabel and I not give white labels to affiliates and I have all my data but sorry I don't share. I can say I still buy from choker so unless I am a complete idiot, it converted better then something else (considering the else may cost half per K must convert more then double it). Of course the search engine or cam plugin in member area converts some 10,000 times better, still there's not a broker who send you "member area traffic" in thousands, you have to go lick the ass of each program owner to put you in the member area and this is so boring I prefer pay brute force dollars to traffic brokers
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:32 PM   #45
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You can compare traffic only if sending to a same web page. Cam sites change models online depending on time, may land on different model at same time on a random choser, and model change view every landing of every guy even if after a minute you get the same girl showing tits or gone away to pee and an empty sofa there, will convert worst then a minute before, you see?
Additionally, choker have dozens of niches, and you can blocklist some sites (example, will you blacklist shemale sites or not, etc.), so the configuration of filters can change it all.

Cam sites themselves (not the affiliates, the cam site) sure know what traffic converts best but will not share such information in GFY, especially if you find a good source you hope the other cam site not buy it (making it scarce availability ormore expensive), also you always hope the competitor will waste money in crap traffic so you not to warn others where the crap it is.

For example I buy from choker, trafficshop, trafficholder and others for my cam site(s) which is not a whitelabel and I not give white labels to affiliates and I have all my data but sorry I don't share. I can say I still buy from choker so unless I am a complete idiot, it converted better then something else (considering the else may cost half per K must convert more then double it). Of course the search engine or cam plugin in member area converts some 10,000 times better, still there's not a broker who send you "member area traffic" in thousands, you have to go lick the ass of each program owner to put you in the member area and this is so boring I prefer pay brute force dollars to traffic brokers
So do you buy from choker or no?

The reason frisky started this was because he believes he will receive 500,000 hits and not a single sale. Not a "honing" of landing pages and traffic should have converted a little better but not a fuckin' sale.

That is what firsky is sayin' and reason he started this.
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Do some people actually expect to learn something from this?

Only a total idiot would make money from something then run to a forum to tell everyone about it so they could copy it. They'll say nothing or they'll say it failed.

Likewise, if they make nothing or lose money doing it they'll just tell everyone they made shitloads - not just because that's what everyone says here (especially about their sigs), but in the hope their 'rivals' waste money on something that doesn't work.

There's an easy and guaranteed way for anyone to find out if traffic works for them - buy some and see.

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Only a total idiot would make money from something then run to a forum to tell everyone about it so they could copy it.
Not true... there are people out there who would be happy to share valuable info with others, especially on a forum where a "community" mindframe is fostered.

Plus, this isn't even a big deal. I'm pretty sure nobody here thinks they're going to get rich quick by sending brokered traffic to a white lable cam site.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:11 PM   #48
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:49 PM   #49
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This side bet is all moot!

Frisky doesn't have a stand alone camgirls site.

Back to the original bet with 5 CamGirls sites!

And like everyone said, you'll need 500 days, not 5 days to isolate the revenue.

Or you can setup NATS on a Streamate W/L and do the tracking.
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I will take you premium traffic and send it to a FULL whitelabel, not just a domain/url redirect thingie. Surfers signup ON the site, and comeback TO that site if they want to login etc. So you can stick you whitelabel bullshit where the sun dont shine because it is just that: Another lame excuse!
So he said "no whitelabel" and all 5 brokers at the same time?
Whats so difficult there?
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