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BlackCrayon · 05-21-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

So you think that every Native American living on a reserve is there because they are being forced to? That they are prisoners?

Where CAN'T they go in the US?

at one time, in both canada and US they were not allowed off the reserves. of course its not like that now but they have a pretty brutal past and still get treated like shit today.

Slappin Fish · 05-21-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

Some of you fucks should show up at an arab country with porn on your laptop, see what happens.

They dont give a fuck about the content of your laptop. not even in Iran will they look at your HD for porn.

Israel did ban Ipad's altogether though, for a while, porn or no porn

nikki99 · 05-21-2011, 10:52 AM

voted!...............

blackmonsters · 05-21-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

So you think that every Native American living on a reserve is there because they are being forced to? That they are prisoners?

Where CAN'T they go in the US?

If Palestinians waited it out for 150 years like Native Americans have then it would
be exactly parallel.

You might need to read before you shout :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation

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Beginnings
See also: Indian removal
In 1851, the United States Congress passed the Indian Appropriations Act which authorized the creation of Indian reservations in modern day Oklahoma. Relations between settlers and natives had grown increasingly worse as the settlers encroached on territory and natural resources in the West.
By the late 1860s, President Ulysses S. Grant pursued a stated "Peace Policy" as a possible solution to the conflict. The policy included a reorganization of the Indian Service, with the goal of relocating various tribes from their ancestral homes to parcels of lands established specifically for their inhabitation. The policy called for the replacement of government officials by religious men, nominated by churches, to oversee the Indian agencies on reservations in order to teach Christianity to the native tribes. The Quakers were especially active in this policy on reservations. The "civilization" policy was aimed at eventually preparing the tribes for citizenship.[citation needed]
Reservation treaties sometimes included stipend agreements, in which the federal government would grant a certain amount of goods to a tribe yearly. The implementation of the policy was erratic, however, and in many cases the stipend goods were not delivered.[citation needed]
[edit]Controversy
The policy was controversial from the start. Reservations were generally established by executive order. In many cases, white settlers objected to the size of land parcels, which were subsequently reduced. A report submitted to Congress in 1868 found widespread corruption among the federal Native American agencies and generally poor conditions among the relocated tribes.
Many tribes ignored the relocation orders at first and were forced onto their new limited land parcels. Enforcement of the policy required the United States Army to restrict the movements of various tribes. The pursuit of tribes in order to force them back onto reservations led to a number of Native American massacres and some war. The most well known conflict was the Sioux War on the northern Great Plains, between 1876 and 1881, which included the Battle of Little Bighorn. Other famous wars in this regard included the Nez Perce War.
By the late 1870s, the policy established by President Grant was regarded as a failure, primarily because it had resulted in some of the bloodiest wars between Native Americans and the United States. By 1877, President Rutherford B. Hayes began phasing out the policy, and by 1882 all religious organizations had relinquished their authority to the federal Indian agency.

Most Indian reservations, like the Laguna Indian reservation in New Mexico (pictured 1943), are in the western United States, often in arid regions unsuitable for agriculture.
In 1887, Congress undertook a significant change in reservation policy by the passage of the Dawes Act, or General Allotment (Severalty) Act. The act ended the general policy of granting land parcels to tribes as-a-whole by granting small parcels of land to individual tribe members. In some cases, for example the Umatilla Indian Reservation, after the individual parcels were granted out of reservation land, the reservation area was reduced by giving the excess land to white settlers. The individual allotment policy continued until 1934, when it was terminated by the Indian Reorganization Act.

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blackmonsters · 05-21-2011, 12:39 PM

LOL!

Let's not even get into a discussion about a homeland for freed slaves in America.

What a waste of time to even ask for 40 acres and a mule.

Pfffffff!

moeloubani · 05-21-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

If Palestinians waited it out for 150 years like Native Americans have then it would
be exactly parallel.

You might need to read before you shout :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation

What? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. What is parallel about it?

brassmonkey · 05-21-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I would like to see what would happen if Russia and China decided to help Native
American's get back their homeland.

what indians you know that are starting trouble? their deal is made. stay in school.

blackmonsters · 05-21-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

What? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. What is parallel about it?

I can't fix your reading comprehension.

blackmonsters · 05-21-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what indians you know that are starting trouble? their deal is made. stay in school.

bronco67 · 05-21-2011, 01:58 PM

This is how I feel about Israel

blofer80 · 05-21-2011, 04:08 PM

BFT3K · 05-22-2011, 01:01 PM

I'm just happy whenever a poll allows for those who are indifferent, to cast a vote of indifference.

It's like saying - "Hey, I'm apathetic, but I'm gonna go out of my way to make sure you know I don't care."

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-22-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

They sure weren't put there by choice.

Uhmm Actually yes Israel was put there by choice. It is the true home area of the Jewish people. Thats where they supposedly went after Moses parted the sea. After the Ancient Sand men made slaves of them and kicked there ass in Egypt they got booted. They moved to where Israel is now which was at the time more or less just a thieves and criminals outland that did not matter for shit or nothing. The area is still a matter of shit or nothing. That area where Isreal resides now is a shit hole, no natural resources, no oil, nothing its a shit dirt hole. Yet the dumb sandmen keep up a reason a fight.

It was not until the modern age that lines were drawn into the sand establishing regions that it became a problem.

But I digress the sand people will keep killing each other just as they always have since the beginning, whether Arab or Jew or neither they will kill each other in that area of the world. It's genetics and evolution at work. Let nature take its course.

Save a few bucks USA and stop funding it.

blackmonsters · 05-22-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Uhmm Actually yes Israel was put there by choice

Too bad his post was about Native American reservations and not Israel.

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