Does Google Look At Whois Data? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 05-30-2011, 12:35 PM

Fitty looks from Google

strobi · 05-30-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

If you want a good reason to NOT use WHOIS privacy, read about RegisterFly.

Oh man, I haven't heard of registerfly in a long time! Man, the horror!

Klen · 05-30-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

What host? On Webair it's under "IP manager". I'm not advocating everyone start using fake ip whois data btw, but if you have a business proxy address to protect your personal privacy there shouldn't be an issue with changing to that.

I am on mojohost,and all ip whois details contain Mojohost contact details while my name it's on Customername field.

d-null · 05-30-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Houdini

Even if you have privacy, it's easy for them to see who registered it. Think...

You register a domain - Your name/address info goes into the whois.
Takes about 15-30 seconds to apply whois privacy - Your name/address is removed, but still in the domain's whois history.

so to be smart we should put fake registration in when registering the domain, then put privacy on it, the privacy whois satisfies the icann requirements since the contact info is legit to the registrar and email can still get through

baddog · 05-30-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

yes. .

News to me. Have proof/link?

chaze · 05-30-2011, 07:04 PM

They have not admitted it, but I am pretty sure they do.

Agent 488 · 05-30-2011, 07:07 PM

it's in one of their patents and matt cutts talks about it somewhere as well.

dazzling · 05-31-2011, 12:04 AM

In the end we as Webmasters need to stop giving so much power to Google. Stop using Google Chrome, Stop using Gmail, Stop using Google Search and also give a little advertising on your websites to promote alternatives to your users.
In the long term its in your own interest.

INever · 05-31-2011, 12:08 AM

Like Dazzling's avatar says, Google would look up your asshole if they could. They also look to see who's on the same server as you, etc etc, age of domain, time spent on site, etc etc

Vendot · 05-31-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

that depends on the registrar... any registrar worth using will instantly put in the protected info.

Thats right. Namecheap applies it immediately upon registration ie there is no delay and no chance for any whois collector to record the data youre hiding behind whois privacy.

will76 · 05-31-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Sure, I know you can opt for a privacy whois but the point is...... if you show your details in the whois and have loads of sites with the same name and address etc. Does Google use that data to help moderate your listings? In other words, it might say okay on this search term we have six sites on the first page, all from the same person - so let us penalise a few of them....

Maybe this is a stupid question. If they dont do it yet, surely they eventually will?

Any views appreciated....

I am sure they do. Google will look at the lint in your pockets. They check everything. Who is, if you have privacy on i bet anything you get knocked for it. What legit sites hide their identity. I bet they check your traffic rankings, why rank you well for keywords if you don't get any traffic. They check everything. They know what you know before you know it.

Vendot · 05-31-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

I am sure they do. Google will look at the lint in your pockets. They check everything. Who is, if you have privacy on i bet anything you get knocked for it. What legit sites hide their identity. I bet they check your traffic rankings, why rank you well for keywords if you don't get any traffic. They check everything. They know what you know before you know it.

Im sure if you click a link and then immediately click on the back button to return to google, they might assume that the site that was found was not of interest for that particular keyword in that particular search and thus penalise the site.

Why the hell would they care how much traffic you get?

Agent 488 · 05-31-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Im sure if you click a link and then immediately click on the back button to return to google, they might assume that the site that was found was not of interest for that particular keyword in that particular search and thus penalise the site.

Why the hell would they care how much traffic you get?

think you have to brush up on your modern seo.

will76 · 05-31-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Im sure if you click a link and then immediately click on the back button to return to google, they might assume that the site that was found was not of interest for that particular keyword in that particular search and thus penalise the site.

Why the hell would they care how much traffic you get?

its common sense logic.... and i have also experience drastic changes on domains after i turned up traffic on them.

When it comes to how they rank you based on keywords especially popular keywords traffic is a *decent* (not in all cases) indicator of popularity. For example if i own a site that gets 100 hits a day and I am trying to rank "sex" and another site has 500,000 hits a day and is trying to rank for sex, don't you think the one with more traffic would be factored into their equation and given more weight then the one that has just 100 hits?

d-null · 05-31-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Im sure if you click a link and then immediately click on the back button to return to google, they might assume that the site that was found was not of interest for that particular keyword in that particular search and thus penalise the site.

Why the hell would they care how much traffic you get?

somebody needs to sell a service of clicking on your competitor's site and then immediately clicking back over 100's of ips and computers

Houdini · 05-31-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Thats right. Namecheap applies it immediately upon registration ie there is no delay and no chance for any whois collector to record the data youre hiding behind whois privacy.

Since when? They give you a free whois, but you have to manually select the domain you want to use it for. I don't have the membership for domaintools anymore, but when I did, I could see my original registration for domains that I had applied whois privacy just seconds afterwards. The only way to get around it is by using false info when you setup the domain account.

merina0803 · 05-31-2011, 08:04 PM

they search hard drives as well

chaze · 06-02-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

Im sure if you click a link and then immediately click on the back button to return to google, they might assume that the site that was found was not of interest for that particular keyword in that particular search and thus penalise the site.

Why the hell would they care how much traffic you get?

Actually there blog stated they do factor this but in a complex way.

Vendot · 06-02-2011, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

think you have to brush up on your modern seo.

I think im reasonably accomplished in SEO - I rank top for just about every major keyword I target but there are things I dont know and thats why Im asking questions. I still dont understand why how much traffic a site has is of any relevance to why it should rank better than a site with less traffic.

I always thought decisions were based primarily on the nature and quality of the content.

Vendot · 06-02-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

When it comes to how they rank you based on keywords especially popular keywords traffic is a *decent* (not in all cases) indicator of popularity. For example if i own a site that gets 100 hits a day and I am trying to rank "sex" and another site has 500,000 hits a day and is trying to rank for sex, don't you think the one with more traffic would be factored into their equation and given more weight then the one that has just 100 hits?

Yes but my question is why - whats the logic? You could be pulling in tens of thousands of hits from spam email to a rubbish web page - simply being more popular doesnt say anything about the quality of the content, relevance to the keyword or anything else. Personally, I dont get it.

From my own experience though, I have many mainstream sites which consistently (over many years) rank way higher on specific keywords than my competitors who have, in many cases, similar SEO situations and yet many times more traffic.

Vendot · 06-02-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Houdini

Since when? They give you a free whois, but you have to manually select the domain you want to use it for.

Its currently implemented into the registration routine (maybe since a few months) so that when you register a new domain, you can apply the whois privacy immediately and it does not need to be done from the control panel later on.

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