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Barefootsies · 06-01-2011, 10:16 AM

Fiddy Russian Programmers

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

This thread only confirms what I intuited long time ago:

most programmers grow bitter...

If they do not like it, they can always move to a country where the cost of living is lower.

d-null · 06-01-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeR70

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Is it still a fair salary? Even in Argentina?

the global market for intellectual labor made possible by the internet should bring living standards closer around the world, it should not be looked at as a tool to be used to take advantage of somebody just because they are in a far away country with limited choices

laptops are just as expensive in eastern europe as they are in usa, maybe more, gasoline is the same, food is expensive, etc

Kiopa_Matt · 06-01-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

You need to stop trying to compare a western world coder (UK, USA, Canada) and their rates to that of 2nd (Poland, Argentina) and 3rd tier (China, India, Paki, Eygpt) markets where the labor is simply cheaper, and does not always mean janitor coders. They are apples and oranges.

The facts are the facts. Western coders simply will not work for 2nd and 3rd tier country rates, and are endlessly being undercut by these guys. This causes a source of frustration, and western coders equate more money for them with a better product. I have hired coders from all over the world, including U.S. and Canada.

I can tell you from 10+ years of experience, while there are 'some' quality coders who meet all of their commitments (project, cost projections, delivery times), rarely is one any better than the other overall. Those in the U.S. blow deadlines just like those in UK, Poland, India and use the same excuses.

While I do not fault you for trying to get more money, and thinking that quality always comes with a higher price tag. That is not always the case. It comes down to the cost of living of that coder, and more often times than not, being undercut by Russians, or Paki's who do comparable work for a lower price.

Yeah, true enough. Globalization doing its thing, I guess. I don't personally care too much, but it is somewhat sad to see. $1800/month is probably what a full-time McDonalds employee in Canada makes. But hey, if that's a good paying job in Argentina, then so be it.

Adapt or die, and all that jazz.

Socks · 06-01-2011, 10:36 AM

Jey p · 06-01-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks

lol hhhaaaaa

Barefootsies · 06-01-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Adapt or die, and all that jazz.

True dat. Survival of the fittest.

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