Bread company raided in mesa,az

[brassmonkey]

Maricopa County sheriff's deputies have raided and served search warrants for suspected undocumented workers at the Alpine Bread Factory in Mesa this morning.

A sheriff's spokesman said deputies believe that at least 31 workers used falsified IDs to gain employment at the business at 300 W. Southern Ave.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio was at the scene.

[Tom_PM]

If it's true then they should be arrested, and the hiring person should be arrested, and the business should be fined, and the business should perhaps be put on lock down pending federal prosecution.

My guess is that only the first thing will happen. Because the gov. doesnt want to lose the tax revenue from the scumbag business who hired them. Just a guess.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If it's true then they should be arrested, and the hiring person should be arrested, and the business should be fined, and the business should perhaps be put on lock down pending federal prosecution.

My guess is that only the first thing will happen. Because the gov. doesnt want to lose the tax revenue from the scumbag business who hired them. Just a guess.

pretty much. they make it appear that they are doing a good thing but busting illegal immigrants

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If it's true then they should be arrested, and the hiring person should be arrested, and the business should be fined, and the business should perhaps be put on lock down pending federal prosecution.

My guess is that only the first thing will happen. Because the gov. doesnt want to lose the tax revenue from the scumbag business who hired them. Just a guess.

they will have to close for 10 days for the first time

What are the penalties?
The sanctions law effectively gives the licensing "death penalty" to businesses that are caught twice knowingly putting illegal immigrants on the payroll.

First offenses are more complicated.

Business licenses are suspended for up to 10 days or at least 10 days for a first offense, depending on the circumstances.

The difference between "knowingly" and "intentionally" hiring an illegal worker is a legal determination that an employer not only knew an employee wasn't permitted to work in this country but intended to have an illegal worker on the payroll.

Violators who "knowingly" hire can have their business licenses suspended up to 10 days for a first offense. Violators who "intentionally" hire must have their licenses suspended for at least 10 days. The law does not specify the maximum suspension for a first offense for intentional violations.

In both types of cases, Superior Court judges will determine the length of the suspension and base it on a variety of factors, including: how long the business had employed someone illegally; whether the business had any prior misconduct; and the degree of harm caused by the violation.

For both types of violations, employers must terminate all their illegal employees and file an affidavit within three business days swearing not to hire illegal workers again.

First-time offenders are placed on probation and must file quarterly reports to the county attorney on each new employee they hire at that location during their supervision.

For those with knowing violations, probation lasts three years. Intentional violators face five years of probation.

[moeloubani]

Good stuff now Americans can have those low paying jobs and complain, bitch and do a fifth of the work of the immigrants. Company won't be able to sell their bread any more and it will go under. What a success story!

[CurrentlySober]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is COOL... I stayed at his place for 6 Months before I was deported

Miss the guy

[pornguy]

Prediction.

Arizona will become the most expensive place in the world to live.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Good stuff now Americans can have those low paying jobs and complain, bitch and do a fifth of the work of the immigrants. Company won't be able to sell their bread any more and it will go under. What a success story!

remember tho the illegals are not paying taxes. its a web of bullshit welfare,social security, tax refunds, children in school,program to teach the students english its a mess

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Prediction.

Arizona will become the most expensive place in the world to live.

nah people will fill the jobs. people that don't finish school or have been layed off. or maybe some lucky gfy members where is tony??

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Maricopa County sheriff's deputies have raided and served search warrants for suspected undocumented workers at the Alpine Bread Factory in Mesa this morning.

A sheriff's spokesman said deputies believe that at least 31 workers used falsified IDs to gain employment at the business at 300 W. Southern Ave.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio was at the scene.

You have a link to the article?

[lagwagon]

haha its on southern and country club, shit area

[woj]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

remember tho the illegals are not paying taxes. its a web of bullshit welfare,social security, tax refunds, children in school,program to teach the students english its a mess

and neither will those workers that will replace them
except now, the bakery will have to pay $12/hr instead of $7/hr AND
the new workers will get some tax refund through Earned Income Credit on top of that...

so business owner gets fucked, tax payers get fucked (Earned Income Credit), hard working immigrants get fucked, consumers get fucked (higher prices will get passed onto them)...
the only "winners" are the new workers who will be making $12/hr for a job that was getting done for $7/hr a week earlier

[Nautilus]

Pink trousers, pink handcuffs. Were they having some gay party at the time of the raid?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

You have a link to the article?

http://www.kpho.com/story/15082957/d...llegal-workers

they caught 12 so far

Originally Posted by woj

and neither will those workers that will replace them
except now, the bakery will have to pay $12/hr instead of $7/hr AND
the new workers will get some tax refund through Earned Income Credit on top of that...

so business owner gets fucked, tax payers get fucked (Earned Income Credit), hard working immigrants get fucked, consumers get fucked (higher prices will get passed onto them)...
the only "winners" are the new workers who will be making $12/hr for a job that was getting done for $7/hr a week earlier

evading the issue is the problem with the cheap labor hurts the state. im not going to explain this again. you would have to live in the southwest to understand.

[Vjo]

hehe Sheriff Joe Arpaio is something else. I always enjoy the documentaries on the County jail he is running.

If you live in Maricopa County #1) consider yourself very unlucky OR #2) do not break any laws OR #3) dont get caught

But Joe pretty much catches everyone it looks like.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Vjo

hehe Sheriff Joe Arpaio is something else. I always enjoy the documentaries on the County jail he is running.

If you live in Maricopa County #1) consider yourself very unlucky OR #2) do not break any laws OR #3) dont get caught

But Joe pretty much catches everyone it looks like.

he's a racist asshole but he's getting the job done.

[glowlite]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he's a racist asshole but he's getting the job done.

He truly is an asshole, but an elected asshole, I like his approach to illegals. Just wish he would focus on the employers and personnel departments. Yes, he's a crook, but MCSO probably isn't any more corrupt than any other "good ol' boy" sheriff's department in the US.

Enjoyed this comment I saw on the KTAR website.
"workers? Is that code for identity stealing criminal illegal invaders?"

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by glowlite

He truly is an asshole, but an elected asshole, I like his approach to illegals. Just wish he would focus on the employers and personnel departments. Yes, he's a crook, but MCSO probably isn't any more corrupt than any other "good ol' boy" sheriff's department in the US.

Enjoyed this comment I saw on the KTAR website.
"workers? Is that code for identity stealing criminal illegal invaders?"

those assholes stole power 92 i listen to those two jews with their make you angry subjects

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Prediction.

Arizona will become the most expensive place in the world to live.

Actually... It is extremely inexpensive... Well, compared to California...

I went to Smiths which is comparable to Ralphs in California. I purchased the same items:

CA: $82 and change.
AZ: $56 and change.

Same items and these two stores are owned by the same company with the same set up.

Gas - Mid-grade
Ca: $3.97
AZ: $3.49

Water bill in Arizona for same water usage in CA... $42 includes trash. Same bill in CA: $92
Electric bill for very similar usage - AZ: $105 CA: $178

I could go on...

Now that our CA schools make it mandatory to teach our kids the history of gays... Time for me to move!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Actually... It is extremely inexpensive... Well, compared to California...

I went to Smiths which is comparable to Ralphs in California. I purchased the same items:

CA: $82 and change.
AZ: $56 and change.

Same items and these two stores are owned by the same company with the same set up.

Gas - Mid-grade
Ca: $3.97
AZ: $3.49

Water bill in Arizona for same water usage in CA... $42 includes trash. Same bill in CA: $92
Electric bill for very similar usage - AZ: $105 CA: $178

I could go on...

Now that our CA schools make it mandatory to teach our kids the history of gays... Time for me to move!

ive live in both and cali is more beer is cheaper tho

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vjo

But Joe pretty much catches everyone it looks like.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local_...till-in-danger

mcso-failure-to-investigate-dozens-of-sex-crimes-means-offenders-still-free,-victims-still-in-danger

joes a rockstar

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by pornopete

Why are they backing bread in nothing but pink boxers????

thats not from the bread factory i just added the pic of illegal going to county jail.

[Why]

good on em. more cities need to start deporting... come in through the door, live here legally, pay taxes, etc. and your welcome to be here.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

thats not from the bread factory i just added the pic of illegal going to county jail.

Ahhh, now I know where that came from. I did not see it in the link and figured you added it ;)

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Good stuff now Americans can have those low paying jobs and complain, bitch and do a fifth of the work of the immigrants. Company won't be able to sell their bread any more and it will go under. What a success story!

Yep when this company tries to hire American for $7.25 an hour and no benefits they will say "no thank I'll continue getting my unemployment and foodstamps" then bitch about not beng able to find "work". If the companies does fill all those jobs with Americans the price of bread will go up and people will complain about that.

Idiots talk about bring jobs back to the US but expect those jobs to pay $25 an hour plus lifetime benefits and they also expect prices to remain the same. Sorry that's not close to being realistic. If jobs did come back to the US then Americans better be prepared for those jobs to be $8-$12 an hour little to no benefits and expect prices to be at least 30% higher. If they can't accept that then STFU.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Prediction.

Arizona will become the most expensive place in the world to live.

don't worry by 2025 Hispanics will be the majority and they will reverse these immigration rules. Whites need to stop fighting the inevitable. if you hate hispanics move out of AZ now.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Actually... It is extremely inexpensive... Well, compared to California...

I went to Smiths which is comparable to Ralphs in California. I purchased the same items:

CA: $82 and change.
AZ: $56 and change.

Same items and these two stores are owned by the same company with the same set up.

Gas - Mid-grade
Ca: $3.97
AZ: $3.49

Water bill in Arizona for same water usage in CA... $42 includes trash. Same bill in CA: $92
Electric bill for very similar usage - AZ: $105 CA: $178

I could go on...

Now that our CA schools make it mandatory to teach our kids the history of gays... Time for me to move!

Mostly hyperbole. Water bills are priced by municipality not statewide. Prices on gas and groceries can vary by area also.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Yep when this company tries to hire American for $7.25 an hour and no benefits they will say "no thank I'll continue getting my unemployment and foodstamps" then bitch about not beng able to find "work". If the companies does fill all those jobs with Americans the price of bread will go up and people will complain about that.

Idiots talk about bring jobs back to the US but expect those jobs to pay $25 an hour plus lifetime benefits and they also expect prices to remain the same. Sorry that's not close to being realistic. If jobs did come back to the US then Americans better be prepared for those jobs to be $8-$12 an hour little to no benefits and expect prices to be at least 30% higher. If they can't accept that then STFU.

people will accept the jobs. it cost more on the state to take care of the illegals. the company is the only one that benefits from the cheap labor. basically the company is taking from every tax payer in the state.

[CDSmith]

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ive live in both and cali is more beer is cheaper tho

Beer is cheaper where?

Arizona doesn't have CRV tax and the sales tax is lower... The beer costs the same store to store and here is a tip... Ask your girl at the cash register in Smith's for a $3 off on coors light.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

ive went to one of the protest they say all kinds of evil things. their fighting to break the law. they don't want to be taxed.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Beer is cheaper where?

Arizona doesn't have CRV tax and the sales tax is lower... The beer costs the same store to store and here is a tip... Ask your girl at the cash register in Smith's for a $3 off on coors light.

i was in modesto

[DaddyHalbucks]

The sheriff is enforcing the law.

Go Joe!

[d-null]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Good stuff now Americans can have those low paying jobs and complain, bitch and do a fifth of the work of the immigrants. Company won't be able to sell their bread any more and it will go under. What a success story!

the business will go under or move, stores will get their bread from a different jurisdiction

[Vendzilla]

[Gonzo Modeling]

Originally Posted by lagwagon

haha its on southern and country club, shit area

its the ghetto-er park of mesa

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

remember tho the illegals are not paying taxes. its a web of bullshit welfare,social security, tax refunds, children in school,program to teach the students english its a mess

BS. You can't get on welfare system with fake social security number. And how do they get tax refund if you say they don't pay any tax?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

BS. You can't get on welfare system with fake social security number. And how do they get tax refund if you say they don't pay any tax?

Oh Christ here we go.

Thread now has legs for three pages. :D

[mountainmiester]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is COOL... I stayed at his place for 6 Months before I was deported

Miss the guy

LOL, and you notice he made sure he was there and in all photo ops I'm sure.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

BS. You can't get on welfare system with fake social security number. And how do they get tax refund if you say they don't pay any tax?

You don't have to show ID when you vote

Anchor babies, do you know how that works? http://www.aim.org/special-report/6-...anchor-babies/

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Actually... It is extremely inexpensive... Well, compared to California...

I went to Smiths which is comparable to Ralphs in California. I purchased the same items:

CA: $82 and change.
AZ: $56 and change.

Same items and these two stores are owned by the same company with the same set up.

Gas - Mid-grade
Ca: $3.97
AZ: $3.49

Water bill in Arizona for same water usage in CA... $42 includes trash. Same bill in CA: $92
Electric bill for very similar usage - AZ: $105 CA: $178

I could go on...

Now that our CA schools make it mandatory to teach our kids the history of gays... Time for me to move!

We produce the fucking gas in California and then SHIP it to Arizona. And it's still cheaper in AZ.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Gonzo Modeling

its the ghetto-er park of mesa

mesa is a giant ghetto except the east side

Originally Posted by Just Alex

BS. You can't get on welfare system with fake social security number. And how do they get tax refund if you say they don't pay any tax?

im not going to skool you on this one but it does happen. ask sheriff joe

[NaughtyVisions]

Did they confiscate any dough?

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You don't have to show ID when you vote

Anchor babies, do you know how that works? http://www.aim.org/special-report/6-...anchor-babies/

Wrong answer. How do you get on welfare is you do not have valid social security number? Question number two: How do you get tax refund if you don't pay taxes?

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

im not going to skool you on this one but it does happen. ask sheriff joe

Im asking you because you said it out loud. So how do you get on welfare without valid ss number?
I say you full of shit. Get off the short skool bus kid.

[woj]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Wrong answer. How do you get on welfare is you do not have valid social security number? Question number two: How do you get tax refund if you don't pay taxes?

who cares about the facts... it's easier to blame the "illegals" for all the problems in the US...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Wrong answer. How do you get on welfare is you do not have valid social security number? Question number two: How do you get tax refund if you don't pay taxes?

I gave you an answer, Anchoir babies
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...lfare-illegals

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Im asking you because you said it out loud. So how do you get on welfare without valid ss number?
I say you full of shit. Get off the short skool bus kid.

Get back on your school bus junior, in the US you don't have to have an id to vote, if they catch you as an illegal alien in LA, they turn you loose.
Anchor babies cost on average $10k each at birth , that's if there's no complications. then they can get on welfare and have more babies. So instead of calling Bullshit and looking like a moron, try to read a little, we'll wait....

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Im asking you because you said it out loud. So how do you get on welfare without valid ss number?
I say you full of shit. Get off the short skool bus kid.

they buy cards there was a guy here i won't say what street he sold social security cards $40 each. the ones in this bust will be charged with felonies and they will never get citizenship now. justice is served.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

they buy cards there was a guy here i won't say what street he sold social security cards $40 each. the ones is this bust will be charged with felonies and they will never get citizenship now. justice is served.

I've seen them for sale in downtown LA before too