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Barry-xlovecam · 07-15-2011, 03:30 PM

NAFTA — move the bakery to a Mexican border town and truck the bread to a US warehouse daily ...

Deputy Chief Command · 07-15-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

remember tho the illegals are not paying taxes. its a web of bullshit welfare,social security, tax refunds, children in school,program to teach the students english

its a mess

you can not live in a country and not pay taxes! every single purchase you make is taxed

no matter how small .. every money the "illegal" makes goes back into the economy .. a part probably doesnt go back as he tries to save and send to his family back home

but his every day living goes back in the economy .. everything he eats / drinks / clothing / entertainment .. he pays taxes on

get with the program !

brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I've seen them for sale in downtown LA before too

not surprised cali is full of all kinds of shit. things are fast that way. the hydro iz tha best 4 sure

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

NAFTA ? move the bakery to a Mexican border town and truck the bread to a US warehouse daily ...

they would do that but its easier to not pay taxes.

brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

you can not live in a country and not pay taxes! every single purchase you make is taxed

no matter how small .. every money the "illegal" makes goes back into the economy .. a part probably doesnt go back as he tries to save and send to his family back home

but his every day living goes back in the economy .. everything he eats / drinks / clothing / entertainment .. he pays taxes on

get with the program !

ok

Deputy Chief Command · 07-15-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok

what is you dumb ass laughing at .. what is this "paying taxes" you talk about ! every single product you buy is TAXED

so anyone .. who buys things in the USA is in reality paying taxes.. it goes like that all over the world .. might sound funny to you .. but it is reality

I buy a pack of smokes .. a large percentage is tax... am I not paying taxes ? I think I am . you are brainwashed to believe you should even pay more

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

people will accept the jobs.

My observations so far say no. Ther peole that were used ot $25 an hour factory jobs that are REFUSING work like delivering pizzas for $8 an hours because it's "beneath" them. Not beneath them to take MY tax money in the form of a unemployment check and foodstamps though.

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it cost more on the state to take care of the illegals. the company is the only one that benefits from the cheap labor. basically the company is taking from every tax payer in the state.

If there were no jobs illegals wouldn't come here. They aren't hiring themselves. So who is REALLY to blame for the illegal problem?

DBS.US · 07-15-2011, 05:21 PM

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brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

My observations so far say no. Ther peole that were used ot $25 an hour factory jobs that are REFUSING work like delivering pizzas for $8 an hours because it's "beneath" them. Not beneath them to take MY tax money in the form of a unemployment check and foodstamps though.

If there were no jobs illegals wouldn't come here. They aren't hiring themselves. So who is REALLY to blame for the illegal problem?

all workers pay into un employment its called Unemployment Insurance Tax

Moose · 07-15-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

My observations so far say no. Ther peole that were used ot $25 an hour factory jobs that are REFUSING work like delivering pizzas for $8 an hours because it's "beneath" them. Not beneath them to take MY tax money in the form of a unemployment check and foodstamps though.

If there were no jobs illegals wouldn't come here. They aren't hiring themselves. So who is REALLY to blame for the illegal problem?

Legal workers will fill those jobs, happens all the time after these raids... Just now the Bread company will have to compete on other things besides saving money by paying under the table.

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

all workers pay into un employment its called Unemployment Insurance Tax

I think someone getting 99 weeks of unemployment is getting MUCH more than they ever paid into it. Just like old fucks on social security.

brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I think someone getting 99 weeks of unemployment is getting MUCH more than they ever paid into it. Just like old fucks on social security.

if you've had steady employment like most do its paid for

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose

Legal workers will fill those jobs, happens all the time after these raids... Just now the Bread company will have to compete on other things besides saving money by paying under the table.

I bet cash money right now that you will have people there on unemployment that will REFUSE to work at that job beause it's beneath them.

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if you've had steady employment like most do its paid for

elighten me what is the tax rate?

Moose · 07-15-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I bet cash money right now that you will have people there on unemployment that will REFUSE to work at that job beause it's beneath them.

Of course, you will always have that everywhere in the world.
You can find a story like the following after everyone of these raids:

Immigration raids yield jobs for legal workers
When federal agents descended on six meatpacking plants owned by Swift & Co. in December 2006, they rounded up nearly 1,300 suspected illegal immigrants that made up about 10% of the labor force at the plants.
But the raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents did not cripple the company or the plants. In fact, they were back up and running at full staff within months by replacing those removed with a significant number of native-born Americans, according to a report by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). MORE

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose

Of course, you will always have that everywhere in the world.
You can find a story like the following after everyone of these raids:

Immigration raids yield jobs for legal workers
When federal agents descended on six meatpacking plants owned by Swift & Co. in December 2006, they rounded up nearly 1,300 suspected illegal immigrants that made up about 10% of the labor force at the plants.
But the raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents did not cripple the company or the plants. In fact, they were back up and running at full staff within months by replacing those removed with a significant number of native-born Americans, according to a report by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). MORE

Yes yes the plant keeps operating because the owner never get punished and after the heat goes away he fires the Americans and re-hires the illegals.

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if you've had steady employment like most do its paid for

Actually this is paid for by the EMPLOYER not the EMPLOYEE. The rate is 6.2% on the first $7000 of wages in a year. That's $434 a year. Even if this amount had been the same for the last 25 years( and it's not, it was LOWER ) someone out of work after 25 years would have paid( well not him, but his employer ) $11,000 total. If that worker gets $1000 a month unemployment within 1 year he's getting $12,000 even though he paid at most $11,000.

Moose · 07-15-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yes yes the plant keeps operating because the owner never get punished and after the heat goes away he fires the Americans and re-hires the illegals.

They are getting punished, and the punishment is growing, Of course seeing from the BS you spew you will find a way to twist it

Under Obama, cases against employers are up sharply: Immigration and Customs Enforcement quadrupled the number of employer audits after Obama took office, increasing the number of inspections and arrests against those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Businesses were fined $6.9 million in fiscal 2010, up from $675,000 in 2008.

GatorB · 07-15-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose

They are getting punished, and the punishment is growing, Of course seeing from the BS you spew you will find a way to twist it

Under Obama, cases against employers are up sharply: Immigration and Customs Enforcement quadrupled the number of employer audits after Obama took office, increasing the number of inspections and arrests against those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Businesses were fined $6.9 million in fiscal 2010, up from $675,000 in 2008.

$6.9 million? That bread factory alone probably make more than that. Doesn't matter as soon as some republcian gets elected prez the fines will stop.

d-null · 07-15-2011, 07:04 PM

other than the native indians (and perhaps they immigrated from Asia 100,000's years ago) we are all immigrants, and laws and regulations and border quotas etc are all just constructs of changing governments and bureaucracies over the centuries......

these so called "illegals" are an essential part of our economy, and enforcement ebbs and flows as the need of the moment goes, whether the need of the moment is pr and votes for some racist sherriff or whether it is the need of the local economy at the moment, it goes both ways and always will, these workers are implicitly encouraged to come here and then they face difficulties as they are just trying to work hard and make a better life for themselves, and their families

brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

other than the native indians (and perhaps they immigrated from Asia 100,000's years ago) we are all immigrants, and laws and regulations and border quotas etc are all just constructs of changing governments and bureaucracies over the centuries......

these so called "illegals" are an essential part of our economy, and enforcement ebbs and flows as the need of the moment goes, whether the need of the moment is pr and votes for some racist sherriff or whether it is the need of the local economy at the moment, it goes both ways and always will, these workers are implicitly encouraged to come here and then they face difficulties as they are just trying to work hard and make a better life for themselves, and their families

who has the power now tho?

glowlite · 07-15-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

don't worry by 2025 Hispanics will be the majority and they will reverse these immigration rules. Whites need to stop fighting the inevitable. if you hate hispanics move out of AZ now.

That's all thanks to anchor babies.
I'm sick of these low life money sucking thieves myself.

They (illegals) come here to spawn and then the offspring breed like fucking rabbits. The Feds have ignored this for too long at the States expense. I think the Border Patrol Agents should be paid on a bounty system.

I know one family spawned from an anchor baby, now in it's 3rd generation, that hasn't found it important to learn/speak English yet, yet they are all American citizens. NONE of the family members has ever held anything other that casual PT jobs. EVERY one of those family members has/have had public assistance to the point of it being their "livelihood". Your tax dollars at work

So fuck the illegal immigrants .................

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brassmonkey · 07-15-2011, 11:12 PM

2025 Hispanics will be the majority and? they have the largest drop out rate its very hi.

Matt 26z · 07-15-2011, 11:27 PM

The bottom line is that the US is absorbing Mexico's poverty. That isn't Mexico's best and brightest crawling under the border fence to get in.

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Get back on your school bus junior, in the US you don't have to have an id to vote, if they catch you as an illegal alien in LA, they turn you loose.
Anchor babies cost on average $10k each at birth , that's if there's no complications. then they can get on welfare and have more babies. So instead of calling Bullshit and looking like a moron, try to read a little, we'll wait....

You are a fucking idiot:

http://www.wisegeek.com/who-is-eligi...ted-states.htm

Now eat shit...

To be eligible for welfare in the United States, an applicant must be a United States citizen or lawfully admitted to the country for permanent residence. Some exceptions may apply to citizenship rules. When an individual applies for welfare, his or her citizenship status is reviewed, along with the status of each household member, before assistance is granted.

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

they buy cards there was a guy here i won't say what street he sold social security cards $40 each. the ones in this bust will be charged with felonies and they will never get citizenship now. justice is served.

Those are fake ss numbers that won't get you too far. Maybe a job Burger King but not to fool government official. Are you too fucking stupid? Tell me you never had fake ID before you turned 21? You really think those would fool a real cop? Moron

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by glowlite

I know one family spawned from an anchor baby, now in it's 3rd generation,

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One more idiot thats full of shit. 3rd generation anchor baby? How is it possible if there was immigration amnesty in 86 i believe? Thats some beaner fucking if they had 3 generations packed in a span of 25 years. And you happened to know all three. What a moron.

brassmonkey · 07-16-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Those are fake ss numbers that won't get you too far. Maybe a job Burger King but not to fool government official. Are you too fucking stupid? Tell me you never had fake ID before you turned 21? You really think those would fool a real cop? Moron

call the maricopa county sheriffs office and ask them if people are buying social security cards with valid numbers

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

call the maricopa county sheriffs office and ask them if people are buying social security cards with valid numbers

Even if its valid number the name will not match. There's no fucking way beaner would go yo government office to apply for welfare like that. Whats your point?

GatorB · 07-16-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by glowlite

That's all thanks to anchor babies.
I'm sick of these low life money sucking thieves myself.

They (illegals) come here to spawn and then the offspring breed like fucking rabbits. The Feds have ignored this for too long at the States expense. I think the Border Patrol Agents should be paid on a bounty system.

I know one family spawned from an anchor baby, now in it's 3rd generation, that hasn't found it important to learn/speak English yet, yet they are all American citizens. NONE of the family members has ever held anything other that casual PT jobs. EVERY one of those family members has/have had public assistance to the point of it being their "livelihood". Your tax dollars at work

So fuck the illegal immigrants .................

~

So if they were all here LEGALLY you wouldn't have an issue with them? Of course you would. I suspect you think EVERY hispanic is here illegally. If there were a million illegal Canadian coming across the border no one would bat an eye. I do hope they get rid of illegals, you seem excited to start your $8 an hour toilet cleaning job that about to open up. Or maybe you're more into picking fruits and veggies or mowing yards. Exactly which low wage labor intensive job that one usually only gets when one lacks an education and/or skills are you most looking forward to?

GatorB · 07-16-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The bottom line is that the US is absorbing Mexico's poverty. That isn't Mexico's best and brightest crawling under the border fence to get in.

When the Irish, Italians, Poles, Germans and other Eurotrash were coming here 100 years ago we weren't getting their best and brightest either. The fact is unless you're 100% Native American then you are descended from someone else's unwanted that couldn't hack it in the homeland.

brassmonkey · 07-16-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Even if its valid number the name will not match. There's no fucking way beaner would go yo government office to apply for welfare like that. Whats your point?

ok you may not want to accept it but its happening. you should see the tax places jan 1st to april

the sheriff just did a bust for identity theft did you read the article??

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok you may not want to accept it but its happening. you should see the tax places jan 1st to april

the sheriff just did a bust for identity theft did you read the article??

I read about it all the time. And its not beaners who do that. Show me one article about illegal mexican using fake ss number to get on welfare and stop blowing smoke up my ass.

GatorB · 07-16-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

I read about it all the time. And its not beaners who do that. Show me one article about illegal mexican using fake ss number to get on welfare and stop blowing smoke up my ass.

Yep most of the welfare scamming, social security scamming and tax cheating is being done by whites and blacks. To the tune of hundreds of billions and no one bats an eye. hey blame it all on the Mexicans.

NaughtyVisions · 07-16-2011, 06:13 PM

Jesus Christ!

Did they seize any dough?

Chris GAMBA · 07-16-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

remember tho the illegals are not paying taxes. its a web of bullshit welfare,social security, tax refunds, children in school,program to teach the students english

its a mess

Stop watching fox news buddy! Of course immigrants pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and everything else... despite earning less than minimum wage. What they don't get are any benefits other than public schools... which are paid for from property taxes. Tax refunds? lol Social security... are you insane?

brassmonkey · 07-16-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris GAMBA

Stop watching fox news buddy! Of course immigrants pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and everything else... despite earning less than minimum wage. What they don't get are any benefits other than public schools... which are paid for from property taxes. Tax refunds? lol Social security... are you insane?

ok man im not getting into it. if you really want to know the truth. sit down find the number for russell pierce, john mccain or john kyl and maybe they will explain it to you. If you haven't lived around it like me you won't understand.

GatorB · 07-16-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok man im not getting into it. if you really want to know the truth. sit down find the number for russell pierce, john mccain or john kyl and maybe they will explain it to you. If you haven't lived around it like me you won't understand.

fucking move then. Come to where I live 95% white 4% black. Be prepared to see plenty of whites scamming the system.

brassmonkey · 07-16-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

fucking move then. Come to where I live 95% white 4% black. Be prepared to see plenty of whites scamming the system.

well they can be tracked down. once an illegal gets wind of trouble guess what poof their gone back to mexico.

glowlite · 07-16-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So if they were all here LEGALLY you wouldn't have an issue with them? Of course you would. I suspect you think EVERY hispanic is here illegally. If there were a million illegal Canadian coming across the border no one would bat an eye. I do hope they get rid of illegals, you seem excited to start your $8 an hour toilet cleaning job that about to open up. Or maybe you're more into picking fruits and veggies or mowing yards. Exactly which low wage labor intensive job that one usually only gets when one lacks an education and/or skills are you most looking forward to?

Ah go fuck yourself moron. You know nothing about it. The only fruits I pick are fruits just like you. These illegal bottom feeders need to go. i know 3 illegal Canadians and IMO they're just as bad. They do speak English though and assimilate without detection compared to the wetbacks.

K I S S _ MY _ ASS

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well they can be tracked down. once an illegal gets wind of trouble guess what poof their gone back to mexico.

So tell me little cunt, how does the illegal mexican gets away with welfare scam using fake ss number and license? You're so full of shit.

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris GAMBA

Stop watching fox news buddy! Of course immigrants pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and everything else... despite earning less than minimum wage. What they don't get are any benefits other than public schools... which are paid for from property taxes. Tax refunds? lol Social security... are you insane?

You really think this guy or the rest of brassmonkeys pay taxes and stay away from welfare system? Fuck mexicans, they do the job. The fix my shit when its 110 outside. Do fucking negros work? Fuck now. They sit and drink Colt45 early morning. And when I say early morning its 1PM. I would rather have 500 mexicans than 10 monkeys.

Just Alex · 07-16-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by glowlite

Ah go fuck yourself moron. You know nothing about it. The only fruits I pick are fruits just like you. These illegal bottom feeders need to go. i know 3 illegal Canadians and IMO they're just as bad. They do speak English though and assimilate without detection compared to the wetbacks.

K I S S _ MY _ ASS

I know a few americans I would like to deport just because they don't do shit and vote republican. Actually it more than just a few.

charlie g · 07-16-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

You really think this guy or the rest of brassmonkeys pay taxes and stay away from welfare system? Fuck mexicans, they do the job. The fix my shit when its 110 outside. Do fucking negros work? Fuck now. They sit and drink Colt45 early morning. And when I say early morning its 1PM. I would rather have 500 mexicans than 10 monkeys.

pretty harsh calling blacks monkeys

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	other than the native indians (and perhaps they immigrated from Asia 100,000's years ago) we are all immigrants, and laws and regulations and border quotas etc are all just constructs of changing governments and bureaucracies over the centuries...... these so called "illegals" are an essential part of our economy, and enforcement ebbs and flows as the need of the moment goes, whether the need of the moment is pr and votes for some racist sherriff or whether it is the need of the local economy at the moment, it goes both ways and always will, these workers are implicitly encouraged to come here and then they face difficulties as they are just trying to work hard and make a better life for themselves, and their families

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	The bottom line is that the US is absorbing Mexico's poverty. That isn't Mexico's best and brightest crawling under the border fence to get in.