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I never stated that the OP or anyone else was "not being a man here." If there was a story about a hang up call and police didn't investigate, you're absolutely right, I would be ripping the police again. I truly believe that when you stop complaining, when you stop asking questions, you make society worse. There should always be inquiries and balance, in my opinion.
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What does where I live have to do with that? I have this opinion because I know a lot of cops and am very good friends with some of them. Are there shitty cops who should not be on the job? Sure. Here's the thing though. They aren't going to just randomly stop at a house and walk up to it making up a story about a 911 hang up call that never happened because they are bored and looking to fuck with people.
Do you really think this cop was driving down the street and said to himself, "I'm going to stop at this house, walk up to it and tell them that there was a 911 hang up call just to see how they react and maybe I can get to shoot a dog or arrest someone."? The only time I have heard of cops going out of their way to fuck with people they don't know is when it is late, nothing is going on and they see you driving around (especially if you are in a shitty looking car) and you give them a cheap reason to pull you over like having a tail light out or a license plate light out. They aren't interested in writing you for the light, they want to see if you are suspended or have no insurance. Is that right? I guess you could argue it both ways, but it is a lot different then just randomly selecting a house and accusing them of calling and hanging up on 911. |
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You're one of those guys who actually believes someone is resisting because the cops who are beating a man to death yell "stop resisting" while they are committing murder, huh?" But now you are kind of contradicting yourself by saying that you would want them to investigate. Assume that the OP is 100% correct and there was no 911 call made from his house. This means that dispatch likely screwed up or there was some kind of communication error that leads to the cop showing up at the OP's house to investigate. The OP tells the officer there was no call made. Guess what? Criminals lie. Cops get lied to all day every day and most of them assume they are being lied to all the time. So he has no way of knowing for sure that there was no call made and he isn't going to leave until he feels comfortable that everything is okay. Maybe if he could ask a couple of questions and have a short conversation with the OP all would be cleared up and everything is good. But he wasn't getting that chance because he felt threatened by the dogs and then was threatened by the OP. Had the OP simply restrained the dogs and talked to cop this likely would have been over in a few minutes and everyone would be happy. You said the cop had no right to be there. The reality is that the cop had every right to be there if he felt he was acting on good faith and with good information. Again, if there were a woman inside being tortured and raped and the cop showed up and someone outside told him there was no call made from this house, you wouldn't just want the cop to agree with him, turn around a leave would you? You might want him to stick around and make sure that things were cool. |
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I admit, I almost never assume a law enforcement official is acting on good faith and almost always assume they are abusing and going beyond the powers they are given. I've seen countless examples of this behavior. Of course, there are countless examples of exceptional behavior that don't make the headlines. So, we're all arguing on assumptions, and even the OP and the cop don't know who made the call for sure.
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Here is an example with me. About 9 months ago my brother rented a car for the weekend to take his family on a short vacation. When he got home I picked him up at the rental place and drove him home. The tags on my car expired that month. I had the new tags, but hadn't put them on yet because I assumed you had until the end of the month. As it turns out they expire on a specific day during the month. So I get pulled over for expired tags. I tell the officer I have the new tags in the glove box, but haven't put them on yet. He then explains about having a specific expiration date. I didn't know that so I learned something. As my brother dug through the glove box looking for the new tags the officer says to me, "Where you guys heading?" He was likely making conversation, but it struck me wrong. Part of me wanted to say, "What fucking business is it of your's where I'm headed?" Instead I said, "Taking my brother home." My brother handed me the new tags, I showed them to the officer and he had us get out and put them on right there. Everyone went their own way no harm done. However, had I said what was thinking he might have suspected something of me. He may have written me a ticket which was well within his right to do and the whole thing could have gotten explosive. So I can see how someone who doesn't trust the cops can easily find themselves in a situation where have some serious trouble with the cops and if the cops know you don't like them it makes it just that much worse. |
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Seems stupid is required to be a police officer
One night, several years ago, I stopped by the grocery store, on the way home from work. Going to grab some food for the weekend. As I get out of the car, 2 police cars roll up. One has several of the store employees in it. From what I hear, they have been out chasing some guy, who tried to use a stolen credit card. Another employee comes out and said he was just in again. Tried again to use the credit card , ran out and was last seen behind the store. More conversation I realize he's tall, Black and has a beard. I'm walking slowly to the store to hear what's going on.
I'm short, white and do have a beard. Suddenly, the younger of the 2 police officers thinks I'm the suspect and reaching for gun tells me to "Come Here." The older police officer, realizes the situation, tells him to halt, "that's not him." Store employees know me, yell "that's not the guy." Almost spent the night in jail because some idiot was given a badge & gun. Almost wish I did. With a good lawyer, I'd be rich. And not living in that city. |
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