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OY · 10-20-2011, 02:18 AM

MPA3® PUTTING PAYMENT PROCESSORS TO THE TEST

The brains behind MPA3® has added a feature that will help affiliate programs and their affiliates make more money by putting the payment processors to the test.

Affiliate programs have listened to our advice of spreading their risk by ?Don?t put all your eggs in one basket? by adding multiple payment processors in a cascade using MPA3® since we introduced ?Cascading Billing? many years ago. Now we have added another layer to this incredible feature by ?putting payment processors to the test?.

Inside of the MPA3® Admin panel the owner/administrator of the software can now test the payment processors they have accounts with SIDE BY SIDE with a few clicks of a button! And by testing the payment processors equally and side by side, the owner of MPA3® now has the ability to see which one of their processors makes them the most money.

We all know that the payment processors have different performing ratios. The time has come for the programs to see for themselves WHO performs the best for THEM.

In addition, this feature will also distribute the risk of one of the payment processors being down, effectively ensuring a potential sale being processed.

To get more information about this feature and MPA3® - Please contact oy//mpa3/com or simply go to www.mpa3.com and submit a contact form.

DamianJ · 10-20-2011, 02:31 AM

Nice one Oy, that sounds great.

garry · 10-20-2011, 04:01 AM

Imagine the impact you as a program owner will have now that you can always make sure that you are using the best preforming processor at the time!

Your webmasters will always get the best signup ratio!

MPA3, leading the way again!

OY · 10-20-2011, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Nice one Oy, that sounds great.

And the beauty of this feature is that the program owner, together with their affiliates, can run these tests at ANY time for ANY time-period to really see which payment processor works the BEST for their type of traffic.

As we all know, affiliate as well as in-house traffic comes from a lot of different places (type of sites, countries, etc.) and one processor might be better for this particular type of traffic and sites. Thus creating side by side tests to see which processor works the best for YOU is crucial to the success of the affiliates and program.

OY · 10-20-2011, 07:54 AM

News too important to move to page two!

CarlosTheGaucho · 10-20-2011, 08:39 AM

I knew there's something coming up.

A very cool feature indeed - way to maximize sign ups and revenue for both - affiliates and program owners.

This is bigger than anybody realizes.

garry · 10-20-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I knew there's something coming up.

A very cool feature indeed - way to maximize sign ups and revenue for both - affiliates and program owners.

This is bigger than anybody realizes.

So very true Carlos!

And more news are comming up as well

signupdamnit · 10-20-2011, 10:35 AM

It seems like a no-brainer that if you have a cascade the software should rank according to factors such as processing costs, denials, ratios, form submits, specific country and language of the potential customer, etc and automatically determine the cascade order without manual intervention. I'm shocked if this is not normal within the industry yet? Even a 1-3% difference could be significant money.

garry · 10-20-2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

It seems like a no-brainer that if you have a cascade the software should rank according to factors such as processing costs, denials, ratios, form submits, specific country and language of the potential customer, etc and automatically determine the cascade order without manual intervention. I'm shocked if this is not normal within the industry yet? Even a 1-3% difference could be significant money.

But this is not the only thing that is important.

Processors often change their scrubbing level, so your through put with a certain processor can be great one week, and then the next week it might be a little worse. Now you have the chance to have full controll at each time with of the processors you use give you the most through put for your traffic

Supz · 10-20-2011, 11:31 AM

Does it make sure the affiliate gets credit for all sales no matter which processor is used, or is that up to the program owner?

Mike Dutch · 10-20-2011, 11:34 AM

Bump for you OY, good news!

OY · 10-20-2011, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz

Does it make sure the affiliate gets credit for all sales no matter which processor is used, or is that up to the program owner?

Absolutely. I.e. if a program is using Commercegate, Epoch and CCBill in a cascade and also when using this new test method to see who performs the best for them - affiliates benefits just the same.

OY · 10-20-2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch

Bump for you OY, good news!

Thanks Mike. I am hoping as many as possible hear about this - because this is more important than most news these days :-)

Raja · 10-20-2011, 03:10 PM

Did you add in a geo targetting so that we can send traffic from different countries to a particular processor? That would be amazing!

NETbilling · 10-20-2011, 03:11 PM

Very nice feature. Our merchants control their own scrub levels so it will be nice to see the results.

Congrats

OY · 10-20-2011, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja

Did you add in a geo targetting so that we can send traffic from different countries to a particular processor? That would be amazing!

Already working on that and a few other newly thought of enhancements.

GetSCORECash · 10-20-2011, 03:59 PM

It reads like a great tool to have these days.

anexsia · 10-20-2011, 04:00 PM

That's sweet! I hope all programs take notice, I would love this feature as an affiliate

TurboAngel · 10-20-2011, 04:34 PM

Looking good!

AdultB2B · 10-20-2011, 09:56 PM

Great idea Oystein! You guys are ahead of the curve again! Good luck with it!

Imortyl Pussycat · 10-20-2011, 10:08 PM

how did i miss your nickname change? guess i've been in my webmaster cave too long. when did that happen? new tools are sick, grats

Just Mike · 10-20-2011, 10:14 PM

Oy,

Glad to see this come out...this is a great addition.

I got to see the new enhancements you are adding on shortly.

EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE WOW'D BY THE NEW STUFF COMING FROM MANSION AND MPA

Way to go guys.

uno · 10-20-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz

Does it make sure the affiliate gets credit for all sales no matter which processor is used, or is that up to the program owner?

Or that programs can't choose to just stop making payments to affiliates?

Is there any guarantee that the program that uses your software itself won't fuck over the webmasters?

OY · 10-21-2011, 12:50 AM

@ Netbilling/Mitch - Thanks for the congrats.

@ GetSCORECash - I think it is crucial. Also, with the in-depth statistics you get after you have done your tests (set exactly to the times/dates you want to) you can use to see if the processor that had the best throughput had any potential negative consequences as well. Over time you will be able to see which processor made you the most AT THE END OF THE DAY, which obviously is very important. Throughput is just one of the many things a program owner, and affiliates (especially on revenue-share programs) need to factor in.

@ anexsia - I agree completely!

@ TurboAngel - Thanks!!

@ AdultB2B - Thanks Bruce, we try

@ Imortyl Pussycat - And there are many many other sick tools in MPA3 that most don't even know about. OY!

@ Mike - Thanks! Miss you!!!

@ Uno - That is never a guarantee unfortunately. However, we are working with companies like Commercegate/DHD and Epoch who are using MPA3 to power their affiliate backends. With them, you as an affiliate gets paid directly from the processor. And with for instance CCBill we have had the "feature" of being able to set for your affiliates to be paid out directly from CCBill for a long time. So there are options with most everything.

martinsc · 10-21-2011, 01:08 AM

great

Konda · 10-21-2011, 01:29 AM

Just proofs how much the adult industry is behind. 10 years for a product to add such a basic feature?!

There is so much to optimize for Paysite owners, but the big affiliate systems are lacking a lot of these features which should be basic.

OY · 10-21-2011, 02:33 AM

Maybe so Konda, but truth be told - we have done these tests for our customers for years, just never automated the process and made it publicly available. I think you can agree that if you take a look at the mainstream affiliate softwares out there, there really is nothing as advanced as MPA3 and our competition anywhere. At least from what I have found.

TMM_John · 10-21-2011, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Just proofs how much the adult industry is behind. 10 years for a product to add such a basic feature?!

There is so much to optimize for Paysite owners, but the big affiliate systems are lacking a lot of these features which should be basic.

The big affiliate systems are not lacking this feature. NATS, which powers by far the majority of affiliate programs in the industry, has had this feature for years, and it also includes other options such as geo-targetting your cascade which was mentioned above. Our feature set is far above and beyond the other platforms available, which is why our market share is far above the other platforms in the industry.

OY · 10-21-2011, 11:12 AM

Thank you for the bump John. Your input has been received, and no more is needed in this thread. We understand that your weenie is perceived as bigger than most.

Back to the subject; Geo targeting is and always has been extremely important. If you do not do it, well, then you are losing money. Program owner and affiliate alike. What is important is tha you and your affiliates get the opportunity to really test the processors you are using in order to maximize profits across the board.

With an automated and CONTROLLED feature like this, YOU can see what is really going on. When you want it and how you want it.

OY · 10-21-2011, 01:21 PM

Don’t put all your eggs in one basket

Just Mike · 10-21-2011, 05:18 PM

bump....back to the top

icymelon · 10-21-2011, 05:23 PM

are we talking speed? or rejections?

OY · 10-22-2011, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon

are we talking speed? or rejections?

Not sure I understand.

ntesic · 10-22-2011, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OY

Not sure I understand.

I think he mean on processor speed or processor rejection

OY · 10-22-2011, 10:26 AM

Processor speed we cannot do anything about. Processor rejection we can. Put them to the test!

OY · 10-23-2011, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexentertain_mike

bump....back to the top

Thanks for the bump!!

Gonzodave · 10-23-2011, 05:30 PM

All that I can say is the system is so "out there" that when I tried to signup to a sponsor using it (Picasso Cash), I only received blank emails in return. I guessed then that something must have been wrong with the system!

CarlosTheGaucho · 10-24-2011, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzodave

All that I can say is the system is so "out there" that when I tried to signup to a sponsor using it (Picasso Cash), I only received blank emails in return. I guessed then that something must have been wrong with the system!

My wild guess would be that the program owner probably didn't administer / edit the email templates correctly, better to give them a heads up.

Bump

Shaft_1971 · 10-24-2011, 07:47 AM

Bump for the news buddy....

OY · 10-24-2011, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

My wild guess would be that the program owner probably didn't administer / edit the email templates correctly, better to give them a heads up.

Bump

That is typically what it is. Ill open a ticket for this client so he can fix it.

Thanks!

OY · 10-24-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaft_1971

Bump for the news buddy....

Thank you, the guy with the big shaft.

Gonzodave · 10-24-2011, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OY

That is typically what it is. Ill open a ticket for this client so he can fix it.

Thanks!

I'll just bet that you get a blank email with "Mpa3" as its title in response. Sorry to be critical and I have no doubt that this isn't Mpa3's fault, but it does make you look bad if one of your system's users sends out blank emails. I hope that you have better luck than I did!

Jakez · 10-24-2011, 05:21 PM

This sounds great, no more ccbill threads.

OY · 10-25-2011, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzodave

I'll just bet that you get a blank email with "Mpa3" as its title in response. Sorry to be critical and I have no doubt that this isn't Mpa3's fault, but it does make you look bad if one of your system's users sends out blank emails. I hope that you have better luck than I did!

Gonzodave - We informed the customer that he had not set his templates and referred to the thread here. It is not an MPA3 issue whats so ever - it is a user mistake by the admin. MPA3 has no way of noticing if an admin does not set his templates as described in the manual. I do agree that affiliates of the named program can believe it is the fault of MPA3 - it is just the nature of the game and nothing we can do anything about unfortunately.

But again, thank you for the heads up. GFY has turned out to be a really good support site

Gonzodave · 10-25-2011, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OY

Gonzodave - We informed the customer that he had not set his templates and referred to the thread here. It is not an MPA3 issue whats so ever - it is a user mistake by the admin. MPA3 has no way of noticing if an admin does not set his templates as described in the manual. I do agree that affiliates of the named program can believe it is the fault of MPA3 - it is just the nature of the game and nothing we can do anything about unfortunately.

But again, thank you for the heads up. GFY has turned out to be a really good support site

I figured all along that it wasn't MPA3's problem, rather the customers' problem. You wouldn't have known that there was a client of yours making you look bad unless the issue was brought to your attention on here.

And by the way, PicassoCash has been branded a non-payer, so here's some advice for you and everybody else...... "Caveat Emptor"

Cheers

10-20-2011, 02:18 AM	#1
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Mpa3® putting payment processors to the test * new feature * MPA3® PUTTING PAYMENT PROCESSORS TO THE TEST The brains behind MPA3® has added a feature that will help affiliate programs and their affiliates make more money by putting the payment processors to the test. Affiliate programs have listened to our advice of spreading their risk by ?Don?t put all your eggs in one basket? by adding multiple payment processors in a cascade using MPA3® since we introduced ?Cascading Billing? many years ago. Now we have added another layer to this incredible feature by ?putting payment processors to the test?. Inside of the MPA3® Admin panel the owner/administrator of the software can now test the payment processors they have accounts with SIDE BY SIDE with a few clicks of a button! And by testing the payment processors equally and side by side, the owner of MPA3® now has the ability to see which one of their processors makes them the most money. We all know that the payment processors have different performing ratios. The time has come for the programs to see for themselves WHO performs the best for THEM. In addition, this feature will also distribute the risk of one of the payment processors being down, effectively ensuring a potential sale being processed. To get more information about this feature and MPA3® - Please contact oy//mpa3/com or simply go to www.mpa3.com and submit a contact form. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-20-2011, 04:01 AM	#3
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	Imagine the impact you as a program owner will have now that you can always make sure that you are using the best preforming processor at the time! Your webmasters will always get the best signup ratio! MPA3, leading the way again! __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

10-20-2011, 07:54 AM	#5
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	News too important to move to page two! __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-20-2011, 08:39 AM	#6
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10-20-2011, 11:34 AM	#11
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10-20-2011, 02:31 AM	#2
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Nice one Oy, that sounds great.

10-20-2011, 10:35 AM	#8
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	It seems like a no-brainer that if you have a cascade the software should rank according to factors such as processing costs, denials, ratios, form submits, specific country and language of the potential customer, etc and automatically determine the cascade order without manual intervention. I'm shocked if this is not normal within the industry yet? Even a 1-3% difference could be significant money.

10-20-2011, 11:31 AM	#10
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	Does it make sure the affiliate gets credit for all sales no matter which processor is used, or is that up to the program owner?

10-20-2011, 03:10 PM	#14
Raja Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Margarita Posts: 1,094	Did you add in a geo targetting so that we can send traffic from different countries to a particular processor? That would be amazing! __________________ Skype: hollywoodraja

10-20-2011, 03:11 PM	#15
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Very nice feature. Our merchants control their own scrub levels so it will be nice to see the results. Congrats __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

10-20-2011, 03:59 PM	#17
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10-20-2011, 04:00 PM	#18
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	That's sweet! I hope all programs take notice, I would love this feature as an affiliate

10-20-2011, 04:34 PM	#19
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Looking good!

10-20-2011, 09:56 PM	#20
AdultB2B Adult Site Broker Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 1,406	Great idea Oystein! You guys are ahead of the curve again! Good luck with it! __________________ Adult Site Broker - The Ethical Broker ASB Cash Adult Site Broker Talk

10-20-2011, 10:08 PM	#21
Imortyl Pussycat Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 5,449	how did i miss your nickname change? guess i've been in my webmaster cave too long. when did that happen? new tools are sick, grats __________________ Julie Larson julie {at} juicyads.com skype: imortylpussycat Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet available ad spots \| sign up now

10-20-2011, 10:14 PM	#22
Just Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a land FAR FAR away Posts: 3,726	Oy, Glad to see this come out...this is a great addition. I got to see the new enhancements you are adding on shortly. EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE WOW'D BY THE NEW STUFF COMING FROM MANSION AND MPA Way to go guys. __________________ EMAIL: [email protected] / ICQ: 56205262 AWEMPIRE

10-21-2011, 12:50 AM	#24
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	@ Netbilling/Mitch - Thanks for the congrats. @ GetSCORECash - I think it is crucial. Also, with the in-depth statistics you get after you have done your tests (set exactly to the times/dates you want to) you can use to see if the processor that had the best throughput had any potential negative consequences as well. Over time you will be able to see which processor made you the most AT THE END OF THE DAY, which obviously is very important. Throughput is just one of the many things a program owner, and affiliates (especially on revenue-share programs) need to factor in. @ anexsia - I agree completely! @ TurboAngel - Thanks!! @ AdultB2B - Thanks Bruce, we try @ Imortyl Pussycat - And there are many many other sick tools in MPA3 that most don't even know about. OY! @ Mike - Thanks! Miss you!!! @ Uno - That is never a guarantee unfortunately. However, we are working with companies like Commercegate/DHD and Epoch who are using MPA3 to power their affiliate backends. With them, you as an affiliate gets paid directly from the processor. And with for instance CCBill we have had the "feature" of being able to set for your affiliates to be paid out directly from CCBill for a long time. So there are options with most everything. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-21-2011, 01:08 AM	#25
martinsc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27,047	great __________________ Make Money

10-21-2011, 01:29 AM	#26
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Just proofs how much the adult industry is behind. 10 years for a product to add such a basic feature?! There is so much to optimize for Paysite owners, but the big affiliate systems are lacking a lot of these features which should be basic.

10-21-2011, 02:33 AM	#27
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Maybe so Konda, but truth be told - we have done these tests for our customers for years, just never automated the process and made it publicly available. I think you can agree that if you take a look at the mainstream affiliate softwares out there, there really is nothing as advanced as MPA3 and our competition anywhere. At least from what I have found. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-21-2011, 11:12 AM	#29
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Thank you for the bump John. Your input has been received, and no more is needed in this thread. We understand that your weenie is perceived as bigger than most. Back to the subject; Geo targeting is and always has been extremely important. If you do not do it, well, then you are losing money. Program owner and affiliate alike. What is important is tha you and your affiliates get the opportunity to really test the processors you are using in order to maximize profits across the board. With an automated and CONTROLLED feature like this, YOU can see what is really going on. When you want it and how you want it. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-21-2011, 01:21 PM	#30
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Don’t put all your eggs in one basket __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-21-2011, 05:18 PM	#31
Just Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a land FAR FAR away Posts: 3,726	bump....back to the top __________________ EMAIL: [email protected] / ICQ: 56205262 AWEMPIRE

10-21-2011, 05:23 PM	#32
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10-22-2011, 10:26 AM	#35
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Processor speed we cannot do anything about. Processor rejection we can. Put them to the test! __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

10-23-2011, 05:30 PM	#37
Gonzodave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 390	All that I can say is the system is so "out there" that when I tried to signup to a sponsor using it (Picasso Cash), I only received blank emails in return. I guessed then that something must have been wrong with the system!

10-24-2011, 07:47 AM	#39
Shaft_1971 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,711	Bump for the news buddy.... __________________ SHAFT Skype: Shaft_1971 Email: [email protected] Email: [email protected]

10-24-2011, 05:21 PM	#43
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	This sounds great, no more ccbill threads. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati