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Old 02-02-2003, 03:39 PM   #1
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An Open Letter to Spammers

An open letter to spammers.

The telemarketing industry is getting ready to be dealt a serious blow. Their uncontrolled greed got the best of them and now the government is going to stop them. Millions and millions of people will put their names in the national registry and $1000.00 files will be accessed if they are called. It's going to happen.

You spammers are doing the same thing - Like the telemarketers, a little was OK - people put up with it. But you ass holes are sending porn links to Grand Mothers - and sooner or later the government is going to step in and stop you.

And honestly, sincerely, without any doubt whatsoever, really really, none us want the government sticking their nose in this business. You are a shortsighted fools who should be discouraged at every turn. (....or taken out and shot.)

And that's what I think ~
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Old 02-02-2003, 03:43 PM   #2
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Old 02-02-2003, 03:51 PM   #3
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I'm sorry. Can I repent my sins and be forgiven?

If you are one of the people sending me 50 spams a day and fucking up the business - I'd just as soon take you out and hang you by your nuts actually....

Otherwise - what's your point?
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Old 02-02-2003, 03:57 PM   #4
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No, I'm not a spammer.

What's my point? What's yours?
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Old 02-02-2003, 04:19 PM   #5
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spam of some sorts will always exist.

If they shut it down in the US it will just move offshore...

does the US really want to chase away THAT much in tax revenues from these companies?

I agree there needs to be 'some' regulation, as shit has gotten a BIT outta control....

...but I think the smarter move would be to just impose some reasonable guidelines that everyone could live with rather than purely outlaw it....
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I think reasonable spammer is an oxymoron
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Old 02-02-2003, 04:26 PM   #9
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Oh good Lord, if it cost a quarter for people to put their name on a list to stop getting email spam they'd all quit bitching.

The only real reason it's such an issue is that it is free to complain.
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Old 02-02-2003, 04:30 PM   #10
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Oh good Lord, if it cost a quarter for people to put their name on a list to stop getting email spam they'd all quit bitching.

The only real reason it's such an issue is that it is free to complain.
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Old 02-02-2003, 04:35 PM   #12
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Oh good Lord, if it cost a quarter for people to put their name on a list to stop getting email spam they'd all quit bitching.

The only real reason it's such an issue is that it is free to complain.
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spammers need to die. And that includes chat room spammers, and a lot of those guys are hosted by the big boys of adult hosting.
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Old 02-02-2003, 05:19 PM   #15
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No, I'm not a spammer.

What's my point? What's yours?

My point?

First off was address to "spammers" - if you aint one - why be a shit ass?

As far as "That will stop them" - that isn't really a realistic is it?
so that must not have been it.

It WAS however, hopefully, intended to maybe, just maybe, make someone "think" about it, and this not end up like the telemarketers are going to.

I guess thinking isn't your strong point either?


Never mind - I knew better than to try to start a serious discussion.
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spammers need to die. And that includes chat room spammers, and a lot of those guys are hosted by the big boys of adult hosting.

Ahhhh - there is wisdom.
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Old 02-02-2003, 05:25 PM   #17
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Kimmy,

good one

Well I do belive that anyone who sends out emails should always have an unsub. link in every single email.

it's only proper that if you spam someone, you should let them decide to opt out.

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An open letter to spammers.

The telemarketing industry is getting ready to be dealt a serious blow. Their uncontrolled greed got the best of them and now the government is going to stop them. Millions and millions of people will put their names in the national registry and $1000.00 files will be accessed if they are called. It's going to happen.

You spammers are doing the same thing - Like the telemarketers, a little was OK - people put up with it. But you ass holes are sending porn links to Grand Mothers - and sooner or later the government is going to step in and stop you.

And honestly, sincerely, without any doubt whatsoever, really really, none us want the government sticking their nose in this business. You are a shortsighted fools who should be discouraged at every turn. (....or taken out and shot.)

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All that will do is put US marketers at a disadvantage to businesses beyond the reach of the US government. The US government hasn't absorbed the idea yet that the Internet doesn't belong to them and isn't under US jurisdiction. It can hassle US citizens, but after that it gets much harder.

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Old 02-02-2003, 06:32 PM   #20
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The only real reason it's such an issue is that it is free to complain.
Bullshit. Its an issue for quite a few reasons.

Spam costs anyone who has any type of internet presence due to the bandwidth it consumes. A good size NOC (Network Operating Center) pays thousands each month just from the bandwidth that spam consumes. Who do you think pays for this? Anyone who pays for webhosting.

Not to mention, do you think its cool getting spam saying shit like 'Watch these whores suck a horses cock'? Do you really want your 12 year old getting emails like this?
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Spam is a scam. It's pure and simple. The fake "unsubscribe" processes on 90% of the emails I get should be enough proof of that.
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Old 02-02-2003, 06:41 PM   #22
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It wont go away though. I've said this before, but the only time the adult industry ever regulates is when it comes from an outside source.

A question of ethics I guess. Some people have no problems selling drugs. Some people don't have a problem with spamming kids email boxes. Its a dirty way to make a living, but its supported directly or indirectly by a lot of heavy hitters.
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I think it's incredible that people haven't come up with a reasonable solution to shut spammers down for at least a little while. Maybe it's impossible, I don't know.

What if spam started getting catalogued, and a script was installed on mail servers that could better predict spam through a shared network-community thing? Similar to CloudMark.net, but if 100 people in the program say that an e-mail was spam, then the sender and random sentences of text were saved to be matched for future e-mails. Maybe it would be too much strain on the mail server, but if you had a second server maybe it would work. Would everyone buy a second server? nope, but I'm sure it costs the big companies enough that enough would do it.
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Old 02-02-2003, 11:13 PM   #24
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Ok, here is one I got just now to one of my webmaster addresses, and I DIDN'T opt in ANYWHERE for this shit.

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This is bullshit to keep getting shit like this, I get hundreds a day...

Stop SPAM ... (except to spam this asshole)

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haha go fuck yourself

whats your email so i can spam you
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haha go fuck yourself

whats your email so i can spam you


so you're one of them huh?

if you are the one sending out sick stupid shit about midgets fucking horses - I'm already on your list.

that is you isn't it?


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daveplay,

I don't give a shit,

while you are still sitting here with your thumb up your ass bringing up some stupid telemarketed law shit,

I will be making bling fuck me bling and retiring in a year or so.

Next year , you will still be here bitching about spam and sticking your thumb up your ass.

Good work.


outlaw spam? who the fuck cares, out law it, I'll be gone by then, fine spammers? who the fuck cares , fine them. what else you got, nothing? all you got is your bitching.
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daveplay,

I don't give a shit,

while you are still sitting here with your thumb up your ass bringing up some stupid telemarketed law shit,

I will be making bling fuck me bling and retiring in a year or so.

Next year , you will still be here bitching about spam and sticking your thumb up your ass.

Good work.


outlaw spam? who the fuck cares, out law it, I'll be gone by then, fine spammers? who the fuck cares , fine them. what else you got, nothing? all you got is your bitching.

So you're going to retire in a year?

Well there's one positive sign.....
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Not to mention, do you think its cool getting spam saying shit like 'Watch these whores suck a horses cock'? Do you really want your 12 year old getting emails like this?

Funny, as a PARENT, I don't let my 11 year old read his mail until I've had a look at it when I let him surf the net.

Go figure.
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spam is down to 2 a day... my own created filter-list is fucking huge but it works like a charm
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Funny, as a PARENT, I don't let my 11 year old read his mail until I've had a look at it when I let him surf the net.

Go figure.

Good job glad there is a parent around here.
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Funny, as a PARENT, I don't let my 11 year old read his mail until I've had a look at it when I let him surf the net.

Go figure.
That's just a worthless statement. I mean it's great that you try to filter out the crap in your kids emails, but you shouldnt have to be doing it. That's like saying you will taste every bit of food before your kids eat it to be sure it is safe for them to eat??...

The point is certain spam needs to be controlled plain as that. I don't know how or by who, but it does need some accountability and enforcements imposed.
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Don't worry, the global government has a plan for email.

After all.. we need to protect ourselves and our email systems from all the terrorists that are are using email.

THey also need to get a new system in place to replace the dying USPS.... which is probably hurting pretty bad since Fedex, UPS & especially email came along.

Your right though -- spammers & terrorists are going to make the goverments takeover of the email system easy. They could probably easily get people to pass a law that would allow them to centralize & control the email systems by claiming that it would clean up "spam" and make the nation a safer place to live.

Then, if you want to spam, no problem. So long as you pay for the mailing - to the USemail service or whatever they will call it.


If I was evil and ran the government that's how I'd do it anyway

Not that it would be right.... but hey, if you don't like it....


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Funny, as a PARENT, I don't let my 11 year old read his mail until I've had a look at it when I let him surf the net.

Go figure.

I'm glad you're trying to protect your kid from people such as yourself.
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That's just a worthless statement. I mean it's great that you try to filter out the crap in your kids emails, but you shouldnt have to be doing it. That's like saying you will taste every bit of food before your kids eat it to be sure it is safe for them to eat??...

The point is certain spam needs to be controlled plain as that. I don't know how or by who, but it does need some accountability and enforcements imposed.
BULLSHIT! I call Bullshit!

You shouldn't have to filter out the fucking internet for all the adult sites for your kids either. How fucking easy is it to block your kids from seeing adult sites? Now, how hard is it to turn their email off or check it before they get on it. What a crock of fucking shit. Everyone here is selling porn. Your pages are plastered all of the fucking web, links, search engines you fucking name it. I was looking at porn long before I got an email for it. www.sex.com links to tons of your sites.

Woopty fucking doo. You put a cybersitter banner on your damn page. You could put that in an email also. Does it matter?

How in the hell could someone in the industry of porn say you shouldn't have to check your kids email before they read it? You shouldn't have to check their halloween candy for razors either. Or their room for drugs. Or local tv stations for cussing.

WHAT THE FUCK EVER.
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Let the spammers eat their own spam and block the bastards at your servers. Use RDNS Blocking mechanisms like SPEWS which will prevent spammers sending your email server spam.

http://www.spews.org

The more people who implement SPEWS or other strick blocking lists on their servers the harder it will get for them to send their spam.

Spam of any kind is theft of resources and is not like paper email. With SPAM the recipient not only pays for the virtual paper, they actually pay for the envelope and stamp too.

If you think SPAM is ok then consider 100,000 companies sending you a SPAM each day, your bandwidth bill would approach several thousdand dollars a month depending on the cost of bandwidth.

SPAM should not be tolerated in this industry or any other.

If you are sick of receiving SPAM then go along to the SPEWS web site and learn how to lock the Spammers out of your mail server.
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Old 02-03-2003, 04:14 AM   #42
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Let the spammers eat their own spam and block the bastards at your servers. Use RDNS Blocking mechanisms like SPEWS which will prevent spammers sending your email server spam.

http://www.spews.org

The more people who implement SPEWS or other strick blocking lists on their servers the harder it will get for them to send their spam.

Spam of any kind is theft of resources and is not like paper email. With SPAM the recipient not only pays for the virtual paper, they actually pay for the envelope and stamp too.

If you think SPAM is ok then consider 100,000 companies sending you a SPAM each day, your bandwidth bill would approach several thousdand dollars a month depending on the cost of bandwidth.

SPAM should not be tolerated in this industry or any other.

If you are sick of receiving SPAM then go along to the SPEWS web site and learn how to lock the Spammers out of your mail server.
Exactly. You can block it if you want to. However you said people don't pay for any other type of spam. If 100,000 people sent me paper mail I would have to get a bigger P.O. Box to hold it. When a business gets a telemarketing call on their 800 number it costs them money. When a business gets a call from a telemarketer that isn't paid for by them, the wages your employee is paid to answer the phone comes out of your pocket. If you want to block spam you are free to do so. It doesn't bother spammers one bit being that you are the one that wouldn't buy anything to start with. Funny I get spammed with commercials on Cable TV that I paid for. HBO spams me with their own ads on a movie channel. By the way, they use my electricity to get it to me. How many more ignorant ass arguements can I come up with on the subject? Hmmmmm
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Let the spammers eat their own spam and block the bastards at your servers. Use RDNS Blocking mechanisms like SPEWS which will prevent spammers sending your email server spam.

http://www.spews.org

The more people who implement SPEWS or other strick blocking lists on their servers the harder it will get for them to send their spam.

Spam of any kind is theft of resources and is not like paper email. With SPAM the recipient not only pays for the virtual paper, they actually pay for the envelope and stamp too.

If you think SPAM is ok then consider 100,000 companies sending you a SPAM each day, your bandwidth bill would approach several thousdand dollars a month depending on the cost of bandwidth.

SPAM should not be tolerated in this industry or any other.

If you are sick of receiving SPAM then go along to the SPEWS web site and learn how to lock the Spammers out of your mail server.
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Old 02-03-2003, 04:31 AM   #44
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I am not SPEWS, nor do I represent it. I merely use it on my mailservers to keep spammers away
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