Police beat students at Occupy Berkely

[stocktrader23]

Students stay anyhow.



It takes a special kind of man to repeatedly jab a girl in the stomach with a baton. Great job, officers.

[porno jew]

one good thing about ows is that the pigs have been showing their true colors.

[_Richard_]

only a matter of time now

[u-Bob]

to serve and protect....

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

to serve and protect....

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Caligari

[alias]

They need better training & equipment so they can hit harder.

[Coup]

Fuck Pigs

[scuba steve]

these are students right? or what classifies someone as part of the occupy movement?

[Overload]

hmm, the shape of their helmets ... ehm ... oops!?


and the color of their uniforms ... omfg - wow

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

I have friends that are cops, who are great people, so I try to differentiate between people and their role. Being a cop can be a tough job, and I sure wouldn't want to do it (I doubt that I could hit non-violent protestors, especially when I support their cause). After all, we will still likely need police for some time even after the revolution.

Some of the most radical leftists I have met, I met while serving in the military, and likewise, some of the most passionate anti-war activists I've protested alongside, were veterans.

Hopefully calmer heads will prevail, and important dialogue and messages are not drowned out by sound bytes and video footage designed primarily to polarize people.

I can't help but believe that Abbie Hoffman is smiling somewhere:

You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

A modern revolutionary group heads for the television station, not the factory. It concentrates its energy on infiltrating and changing the image system.

Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the human spirit. When all today's isms have become yesterday's ancient philosophy, there will still be reactionaries and there will still be revolutionaries.

No amount of rationalization can avoid the moment of choice each of us brings to our situation here on the planet. I still believe in the fundamental injustice of the profit system and do not accept the proposition there will be rich and poor for all eternity.

Love and Peace,

ADG

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by Overload

hmm, the shape of their helmets ... ehm ... oops!?


and the color of their uniforms ... omfg - wow

You've got it all wrong. Germany had economic problems and they blamed it on Jews. Then Hitler comes along and used the fact that Jews created all these problems to persecute them. There's a reason the Nazi party supports these protests.

Only in America do these protestors want to change everything without throwing the government out

[RyuLion]

Yeap, pretty fucked up!

[Overload]

Originally Posted by Houdini

You've got it all wrong. Germany had economic problems and they blamed it on Jews. Then Hitler comes along and used the fact that Jews created all these problems to persecute them.h

eh-eh, way before hitler was reichskanzler he wrote he wanted to extinct the jews ... it was his very own goal to kill 'em all

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by Overload

eh-eh, way before hitler was reichskanzler he wrote he wanted to extinct the jews ... it was his very own goal to kill 'em all

Huh? Reichskanzler was not a person. It's the title for the Third Reich Chancellor of which Hitler held title to.

[thickcash_amo]

Sad, but hope this doesnt detour their efforts

[bronco67]

Within a month, we'll get our first police killing of a protester. It's only an inevitability.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Overload

eh-eh, way before hitler was reichskanzler he wrote he wanted to extinct the jews ... it was his very own goal to kill 'em all

everyone had the book, obviously no one read it

[AllAboutCams]

i love the police

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Students stay anyhow.



It takes a special kind of man to repeatedly jab a girl in the stomach with a baton. Great job, officers.

I hate to be the one to point this out you but women get beat everyday, in fact in some countries they cut womens clits off and make 'em where a grabage bag. that doesn't seem to bother you too much

[Rochard]

What's really comical here is the protesters are squaring off against the police, and lumping them in with "the government". However, the truth is... Police officers are in fact part of the 99%. They are grossly underpaid.

In my hometown, we just let get go of ten percent of our police force. They are hurting right along with the rest of us.

[pm2000]

lets all get a real life people

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What's really comical here is the protesters are squaring off against the police, and lumping them in with "the government". However, the truth is... Police officers are in fact part of the 99%. They are grossly underpaid.

In my hometown, we just let get go of ten percent of our police force. They are hurting right along with the rest of us.

if you can't see the connection between the police and the state ... well there is not much one can do to help you ...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What's really comical here is the protesters are squaring off against the police, and lumping them in with "the government". However, the truth is... Police officers are in fact part of the 99%. They are grossly underpaid.

In my hometown, we just let get go of ten percent of our police force. They are hurting right along with the rest of us.

Who do you expect the protestors to square off against when it's the police whom are put in front of them. Do our political leaders go beat the shit out of each other when two countries wanna fight? Na they let the army do that.

Domestically it's the Police that do the biding for the powers that be and they are stuck right in the middle because the powers that be aren't gonna go down there and talk to the protestors. Meanwhile the Police are supposed to protect and serve the people. Yet who writes their pay checks?

Regardless the cops are in a tough situation but there is no call for actions like that. TBH I wish that crowd would have beat the shit out of those cops over that because no one has accept being beaten by a cop or anyone else like that.

[cykoe6]

Maintaining public order is one of the few legitimate functions of government. They should have dispersed these crowds using all necessary force a long time ago.

[MetaMan]

Fuck all police. 100% of police are pieces of shit. The cops are the biggest gang in every city.

fuck them all. true pieces of shit.

[GAMEFINEST]

damn, that shit hurts..

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Maintaining public order is one of the few legitimate functions of government. They should have dispersed these crowds using all necessary force a long time ago.

people have the right to protest, unless they use violence themselves. in that case i dont have any sympathies. but peaceful protest? i am all for it

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Within a month, we'll get our first police killing of a protester. It's only an inevitability.

they alrdy bashed a few heads in.

Put a veteran in hospital with broken skull.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Is UC Berkeley still the hotbed of left-wing radicalism that it was in the 1960s?

If so the Pandora's Box just got opened ...

[sperbonzo]

I was a reserve deputy sheriff for a year and a half, and that perspective gives me a certain sympathy for what cops go through and deal with everyday. However, in this case it looked to me that they said something to the cop that really pissed him off, maybe about his mother or something, who knows. He clearly then looked around, to see if there was a supervisor nearby, and when he didn't see one, he starts in on them with his baton. He was counting on the fact that cops are trained to back each other up when the shit starts, and then when things are under control, to THEN figure out what exactly happened. This is because in crisis situations, there isn't time to stand around and find out what is what. You may have only a second to react, get things resolved and back under control, and THEN find out what exactly happened. This cop knew all this, and knew that once it started, the other cops would initially back him up. It looks like he stopped only when a supervisor appears at the end. In short, this cop was a total asshat and should never have been provoked to use violence, no matter what was said to him. In fact, I'm sure that in the morning briefing, they were specifically warned that people would try to provoke this reaction in order to make the cops look bad, so there is no excuse for the cops behavior. This idiot is just not professional enough to be a cop. He needs to be disciplined, fined, retrained, or fired IMHO.



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[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What's really comical here is the protesters are squaring off against the police, and lumping them in with "the government". However, the truth is... Police officers are in fact part of the 99%. They are grossly underpaid.

In my hometown, we just let get go of ten percent of our police force. They are hurting right along with the rest of us.

Then they need to stop being tools for the 1%.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I was a reserve deputy sheriff for a year and a half, and that perspective gives me a certain sympathy for what cops go through and deal with everyday. However, in this case it looked to me that they said something to the cop that really pissed him off, maybe about his mother or something, who knows. He clearly then looked around, to see if there was a supervisor nearby, and when he didn't see one, he starts in on them with his baton. He was counting on the fact that cops are trained to back each other up when the shit starts, and then when things are under control, to THEN figure out what exactly happened. This is because in crisis situations, there isn't time to stand around and find out what is what. You may have only a second to react, get things resolved and back under control, and THEN find out what exactly happened. This cop knew all this, and knew that once it started, the other cops would initially back him up. It looks like he stopped only when a supervisor appears at the end. In short, this cop was a total asshat and should never have been provoked to use violence, no matter what was said to him. In fact, I'm sure that in the morning briefing, they were specifically warned that people would try to provoke this reaction in order to make the cops look bad, so there is no excuse for the cops behavior. This idiot is just not professional enough to be a cop. He needs to be disciplined, fined, retrained, or fired IMHO.



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If a cop starts to beat people over "words" then he is very poorly trained and shouldent even be put infront of protesters, infact he shouldent even be a cop. This kind of thing gives the cops a real bad name. The encounters I have had with police over my years only one of them I had respect for because he talked and treated me like a person. The others were complete arseholes and rude. These were all traffic related and i have no criminal record but most of them treat you like scum even over here in the UK.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by porno jew

if you can't see the connection between the police and the state ... well there is not much one can do to help you ...

Totally. I'm sure that each and every police officer, when they strapped on their boots that morning, said to themselves "I can't wait to oppress the citizens and support the banking industry". Because, you know, they are making millions with the banking industry.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Totally. I'm sure that each and every police officer, when they strapped on their boots that morning, said to themselves "I can't wait to oppress the citizens and support the banking industry". Because, you know, they are making millions with the banking industry.

that really has nothing to do with it. Are you saying you see no connection between police and state ?

[D Ghost]

Yeah clearly these protestors are out of control and a danger to the safety of the larger public.... heh.

These police need to find something better to do and actually earn their money. Rather than standing around jabbing people who are clearly not a threat to my safety or anyone's safety around that vicinity.

[epitome]

When I see things like this I think of what is/was going on elsewhere in the world.

When it came to Egypt it was more peaceful because the military felt more aligned with the citizens than the government.

It is no secret that many in the US military think what they've had to do in the last decade wasnt for the people but rather special interests.

If this keeps growing I can't help but to wonder which side our military chooses. It could very well the deciding factor on who wins.

[Nembrionic]

Originally Posted by Overload

eh-eh, way before hitler was reichskanzler he wrote he wanted to extinct the jews ... it was his very own goal to kill 'em all

In what universe were you when that happend?

[INever]

We are the 100%.

Power to the people, right on!

[PornoMonster]

Funny, they plan to have a class sit out Tuesday. Guess they want to keep everyone at 1%.

[TheSquealer]

Those guys are really forgetting to drive the strike from their feet and to rotate their hips.

[INever]

Fucked up story.

The politicians have lost control of the military, police and bankers and we, the 100%, are in a world of FUCK because of it.

[Adam_M]

And everyone will get upset when someone goes crazy and kills a few of these fucking pigs!

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by epitome

When I see things like this I think of what is/was going on elsewhere in the world.

When it came to Egypt it was more peaceful because the military felt more aligned with the citizens than the government.

It is no secret that many in the US military think what they've had to do in the last decade wasnt for the people but rather special interests.

If this keeps growing I can't help but to wonder which side our military chooses. It could very well the deciding factor on who wins.

It is really amusing that you actually believe that there is widespread support for your Marxist fantasies. The idea that there is widespread support for a leftist "people's revolution" in the military is even more laughable. The more regular working people learn about your ridiculous "smash capitalism" rhetoric and your Black Bloc tactics....... the less support you will have. In the US the dedicated hardcore left is likely less than 20% of the population. If there is bloodshed you will certainly be on the wrong end of it.

[iMind]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

It is really amusing that you actually believe that there is widespread support for your Marxist fantasies. The idea that there is widespread support for a leftist "people's revolution" in the military is even more laughable. The more regular working people learn about your ridiculous "smash capitalism" rhetoric and your Black Bloc tactics....... the less support you will have. In the US the dedicated hardcore left is likely less than 20% of the population. If there is bloodshed you will certainly be on the wrong end of it.

You never shut up do you?

All you do is go on and on about marxism, just STFU clown.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

It is really amusing that you actually believe that there is widespread support for your Marxist fantasies. The idea that there is widespread support for a leftist "people's revolution" in the military is even more laughable. The more regular working people learn about your ridiculous "smash capitalism" rhetoric and your Black Bloc tactics....... the less support you will have. In the US the dedicated hardcore left is likely less than 20% of the population. If there is bloodshed you will certainly be on the wrong end of it.

i think you've spent too much time in europe. it seems every second word out of you is marxist.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i think you've spent too much time in europe. it seems every second word out of you is marxist.

I am well aware that not every OWS protester is a hardcore Marxist (although it would be absurd to deny that many are), there are also plenty of anarchists, drug addicts, homeless people, petty criminals, sexual predators and mentality handicapped people involved. It is a regular cross section of the bottom 5% of society....... which is why every single OWS encampment has degenerated into a Lord of the Flies style dystopia.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

I am well aware that not every OWS protester is a hardcore Marxist (although it would be absurd to deny that many are), there are also plenty of anarchists, drug addicts, homeless people, petty criminals, sexual predators and mentality handicapped people involved. It is a regular cross section of the bottom 5% of society....... which is why every single OWS encampment has degenerated into a Lord of the Flies style dystopia.

I can agree that many camping there are the hardcore people often in fringe groups. i really don't get the camping part of it. i think they'd gain more respect and get more 'regular' people coming out if they just held more usual protests during the week and weekend.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I had this happen to me over the summer. Sitting in a park with my wife and her friend as I was eating lunch reading my kindle. My wife's friend was smoking and apparently, you're not allowed to smoke in that park.

So your wife's friend was breaking the law?

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

halfpint nailed it!
The cop walks up and tells her you can't smoke in the park. She apologized as he asked us for our ID's. We are all in our mid-40's and middle class people just enjoying the park as this cop then asked my wife for her ID. I told my wife you don't have to show him your ID because you've not committed a crime.

Your friend was smoking in a public park, breaking a public ordinance. A law was in fact broken, and at that point police had the right to ask for ID.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

This cop flipped out and asked me for mine. I stood up and crossed my arms as he started to bait me with an "aggressive stand" type BS. I said no, as my wife flipped her cellphone camera on. The cop then said he's doing an investigation as my reply, then investigate, as I refuse to show him my ID.

So, you friend is breaking the law, your going to question a police officer doing his job, and then you turn cell phone camera on him? That might have been against the law too depending on what state your in.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

He calls for backup and then asked my name, address, DOB, and told him my ID information is correct. As he goes through my wallet, you can see the color in his face change, as he soon discovers I am an ACLU carrying caring member.

He called for back up because someone broke a city law - a stupid one at that - and you got in his face.

You understand what happened, right? This poor schmuck makes $40k a year, he's doing his job because some jack ass complained about people smoking in the public park, and asked your friend to put the cigarette out. You the officer flack back, turn a video camera on him, and that point he's no longer going to be nice about it. This was a simple matter that YOU quickly blew out of proportion. All that needed to be said was "sorry officer" and that would have been that. Instead you got your afternoon destroyed, the cops now have your name on file, you friend got a fine, and you got nothing but a huge hassle.

Are some police officers dicks? Of course. But in this case your friend was breaking some silly law, and because you were an ass you hassled.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

that really has nothing to do with it. Are you saying you see no connection between police and state ?

You have to define state. Do you mean they are talking orders from Washington DC or Sacramento? Or do you mean they are in fact part of the government?

These police officers are doing their job. If the mayor decides the encampment needs to be shut down, that's the job of the police. The police do not decide what is wrong or right; The police do not get to decide which laws to enforce. If the mayor or chief of police decides it's unsafe for this to continue - which seems to be the trend of local city governments in the past few days - the police are ordered to move in. They give warning, and eventually they move in.

These cops are part of the 99%. They surely don't work for the bankers.