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MrCain · 12-10-2011, 09:38 AM

AGAINST .xxx

SZNY · 12-10-2011, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Against:
FMS Cash (I think)... https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18611994&postcount=4

yes 100% against, registered redirect.xxx
at this moment busy to blueprint .xxx blocking software for consumer devices (computers and mobile handhelds)

scottybuzz · 12-10-2011, 10:09 AM

Against .xxx publically for .xxx privately if it makes me money

is what the majority are thinking

SmokeyTheBear · 12-10-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SZNY

yes 100% against, registered redirect.xxx
at this moment busy to blueprint .xxx blocking software for consumer devices (computers and mobile handhelds)

use opendns and just block .xxx simple

ErectMedia · 12-10-2011, 10:37 AM

.com renewal for 10 years= $81.30
.xxx renewal for 10 years= $1000.00

not buying .xxx leaves you with $918.70 saved to purchase advertising for your site or a few escorts and blow if that's your thing

type in traffic will fall to the .com, developed .xxx will just send even more traffic to the .com, if this was really about do the responsible thing and put your site on .xxx then they could have priced it at $10 a year or even double at $20 a year but instead used the weak ass "responsible" and "protect your brand" marketing and priced around $100 year as it's nothing more than a money grab like all the failed extensions before it, did we need .mobi for mobile?, do you need .xxx for adult?, develop away on .xxx as it will just send more traffic to .com holders and makes .xxx very easy to censor.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-10-2011, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

.com renewal for 10 years= $81.30
.xxx renewal for 10 years= $1000.00

not buying .xxx leaves you with $918.70 saved to purchase advertising for your site or a few escorts and blow if that's your thing

there are very few .com's available so your theory evolves around the idea that your domain name has no purpose or value other than its reg cost.

Lets say i want to buy highheels.com , its listed at $15k highheels.xxx is available

so
cost after 10 years for .com $15,081.30
cost after 10 years for .xxx $1,000

brandable .com's cost $$$ more than the inflated .xxx reg cost

stocktrader23 · 12-10-2011, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

there are very few .com's available so your theory evolves around the idea that your domain name has no purpose or value other than its reg cost.

Lets say i want to buy highheels.com , its listed at $15k highheels.xxx is available

so
cost after 10 years for .com $15,081.30
cost after 10 years for .xxx $1,000

brandable .com's cost $$$ more than the inflated .xxx reg cost

Well that plus .xxx makes about 1000 times more sense than .mobi for fucks sake.

ErectMedia · 12-10-2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

there are very few .com's available so your theory evolves around the idea that your domain name has no purpose or value other than its reg cost.

Lets say i want to buy highheels.com , its listed at $15k highheels.xxx is available

so
cost after 10 years for .com $15,081.30
cost after 10 years for .xxx $1,000

brandable .com's cost $$$ more than the inflated .xxx reg cost

spending a few k on a keyword .com that has an $8 renewal would be a better option than buying an alternative extension in my opinion as I have owned 500-1000 .com domains over the last 9-10 years or so and I affiliate tag all traffic sources from paid brokers, search engine, type in etc... and consistently my .com domains with type in traffic convert and trump any alternative extensions I own, alternative extension relies on building it or advertising for traffic, keyword .com with type in traffic has a pulse on it's own meaning your advertising costs can be reduced as it has a natural flow or a heartbeat without doing anything, so you have to factor in included traffic/sales that wont happen on alternative extensions as there is no type in traffic.

DotXXX · 12-10-2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

there are very few .com's available so your theory evolves around the idea that your domain name has no purpose or value other than its reg cost.

Lets say i want to buy highheels.com , its listed at $15k highheels.xxx is available

so
cost after 10 years for .com $15,081.30
cost after 10 years for .xxx $1,000

brandable .com's cost $$$ more than the inflated .xxx reg cost

Sedo actually did a study on the average cost of a dotcom. It was part of the 5 page long post that I posted 'elsewhere.'

But you can find that study here: http://sedo.com/fileadmin/documents/...rket_Study.pdf

Jack Sparrow · 12-10-2011, 12:51 PM

Reading the study!

SmokeyTheBear · 12-10-2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

spending a few k on a keyword .com that has an $8 renewal would be a better option than buying an alternative extension

the reg fee is a moot point.. most of the time you just don't have that option. the .com simply isn't for sale.. you would have a hard time finding "keyword.com" domains for under 5 figures..

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

consistently my .com domains with type in traffic convert and trump any alternative extensions I own

its rather hard to surmise that unless you have keyword.com and keyword.info and drive same traffic to it etc

keyword.com will always trump keyword.anything for type-ins , type-ins arent everything and .xxx isn't any other tld . xxx describes what you are after , so it will have a big effect on serps.. serps are god here

search for "gay xxx" gay.xxx is top10 on a brand new domain with no backlinks

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

, alternative extension relies on building it or advertising for traffic, keyword .com with type in traffic has a pulse on it's own meaning your advertising costs can be reduced as it has a natural flow or a heartbeat without doing anything, so you have to factor in included traffic/sales that wont happen on alternative extensions as there is no type in traffic.

great points but we aren't arguing which is better , .com will always be better. What i am saying is it may be more cost effective to buy highheels.xxx for $100 and spend $15,000 on traffic and advertising than spend $15,000 for highheels.com for a couple type-ins

ErectMedia · 12-10-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

great points but we aren't arguing which is better , .com will always be better. What i am saying is it may be more cost effective to buy highheels.xxx for $100 and spend $15,000 on traffic and advertising than spend $15,000 for highheels.com for a couple type-ins

We aren't arguing at all. What works for you more power to ya and what works for me the same.

If you're advertising doesn't matter if your on .shit as you're paying for the traffic either through ads or time invested to seo it so you can rank any extension. My point being a strong foundation isn't everything but it sure helps as a trickle of life from type in traffic converts and for the life of the domain it's traffic you didn't have to buy so you can discount that from your purchase price every year you own it. What's the value of someone that typed in exactly what they wanted to buy and ended up on your .com?
I helped purchase a 3 word $750 .com domain for a buddy of mines business and his lead form actually carbon copies me just so I could see the results and the response/sales he made his $750 back within 1 1/2 to 2 months and it only had a small amount of type in traffic so everything from here on out is pure profit minus the annual $8 renewal.

Keyword .com not only flows with type in but also brands you as an expert simply because you own the keyword domain.
Spending $15,000 on advertising a .xxx will partially benefit the .com owner as .com is industry standard and branded for years and will just confuse them to .com.
Example of brand confusion...
http://adage.com/article/news/o-over...change/230983/
"Confused? So were customers. Mr. Johnson said customers responded well to the O.co advertising, but after watching the spots, "a good portion" of those who sought out the website went to O.com, instead of O.co."

You can build your business on a dirt foundation but I prefer the concrete of .com. Any of my comments are not targeted to your example of 15k for high heels and not exclusive to 1 word domains as I own quite a few 2 word .coms but based on the last 9-10 years and thousands of domains analyzed/brokered/sold anywhere from $100-$xxx,xxx but mostly $2,500-$10,000 many in similar categories and some same domain with different extension and the .coms always trump any extension on natural traffic and the reason I have sold even hand registered/expiring $7-$8 domains in the 5-10k range quite a few times. 99% of what I own are .com. If you think a .xxx and throwing 15k at it works then more power to you just saying you will be helping the .com owner out if you don't own it as brand confusion comes free of charge with alternate extensions.

To keep the thread on topic I guess...

SmokeyTheBear= Pro .xxx
ErectMedia= Anti .xxx

SmokeyTheBear · 12-10-2011, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

If you're advertising doesn't matter if your on .shit as you're paying for the traffic either through ads or time invested to seo it so you can rank any extension.

of course tld matters .com says nothing about porn .xxx says alot..

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

My point being a strong foundation isn't everything but it sure helps as a trickle of life from type in traffic converts and for the life of the domain it's traffic you didn't have to buy so you can discount that from your purchase price every year you own it.

type-in traffic is slowly vanishing

this isn't about type-in's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

Spending $15,000 on advertising a .xxx will partially benefit the .com owner as .com is industry standard and branded for years and will just confuse them to .com.

so what.. you spent all yours on the domain and all you get is type-ins

so there is never a point in buying anything other than .com ?

how many .xxx's have you bought to compare results ? oh none .. so basically you are saying you have no facts to base a valuation as you have never bought one and compared...

Do you own any tld's than .com ? hmm so why dont you take your own advice , throw them away and buy all of them in .com ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

Example of brand confusion...
http://adage.com/article/news/o-over...change/230983/
"Confused? So were customers. Mr. Johnson said customers responded well to the O.co advertising, but after watching the spots, "a good portion" of those who sought out the website went to O.com, instead of O.co."

that is a a silly example of a silly tld

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

You can build your business on a dirt foundation but I prefer the concrete of .com.

so does everyone we just dont have 7 figures for the domains.

the brandability of having a one word .xxx compared to a 3 word .com outweighs your argument.

if i have 6 figures to throw at a .com i will buy the .com , until then .xxx has plenty of value.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

If you think a .xxx and throwing 15k at it works then more power to you

works better than throwing 15k at a domain for nothing more than a few type-ins

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

To keep the thread on topic I guess...

SmokeyTheBear= Pro .xxx
ErectMedia= Anti .xxx

to keep the thread on topic
Smokeythebear = meat eater
ErectMedia = vegan

shit maybe i should have asked you first..

dannyz-zbuckz · 12-10-2011, 04:19 PM

zBUCKz does not support .xxx

Also here's more sites that have come out against .XXX (hard to keep up as the list keeps growing):

http://www.gaydemon.com
- banned all .xxx sites from it's link directories

http://www.bestmaleblogs.com
- banning all .xxx blogs from it's directory

http://www.gaydemon.biz Webmaster industry board
- banning all posts related to selling .XXX or earning money from .XXX including link trades

http://malesharing.com, arucci.nl, thedailygay.com, gaypornlinks.org
- banned .xxx from all link and blog submissions

http://adamfucksadam.com, nakedguysblog.com, allnakedmale.com
- banned .xxx from all link trades

You can find all this info from threads on the Gaydemon.biz webmaster board.

nikki99 · 12-10-2011, 05:32 PM

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SZNY · 12-10-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

use opendns and just block .xxx simple

I know

but want to make a blocking app for normal people

Fabien · 12-10-2011, 06:57 PM

Tabarnake WAKE UP !
Don't buy those domains. If you did, shame on you but don't develop them.
Take the hit and think further ahead !

It's like shooting yourself in the foot !

CyberHustler · 12-10-2011, 07:04 PM

cyberhustler = doesn't care

bean-aid · 12-19-2011, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyz-zbuckz

zBUCKz does not support .xxx

Also here's more sites that have come out against .XXX (hard to keep up as the list keeps growing):

http://www.gaydemon.com
- banned all .xxx sites from it's link directories

http://www.bestmaleblogs.com
- banning all .xxx blogs from it's directory

http://www.gaydemon.biz Webmaster industry board
- banning all posts related to selling .XXX or earning money from .XXX including link trades

http://malesharing.com, arucci.nl, thedailygay.com, gaypornlinks.org
- banned .xxx from all link and blog submissions

http://adamfucksadam.com, nakedguysblog.com, allnakedmale.com
- banned .xxx from all link trades

You can find all this info from threads on the Gaydemon.biz webmaster board.

Thank you... posts like that make it very easy to update the list ;)

12-10-2011, 09:38 AM	#51
MrCain Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,332	AGAINST .xxx __________________ Sigmund

12-10-2011, 10:09 AM	#53
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12-10-2011, 10:37 AM	#55
ErectMedia Confirmed Chicago Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 7,100	.com renewal for 10 years= $81.30 .xxx renewal for 10 years= $1000.00 not buying .xxx leaves you with $918.70 saved to purchase advertising for your site or a few escorts and blow if that's your thing type in traffic will fall to the .com, developed .xxx will just send even more traffic to the .com, if this was really about do the responsible thing and put your site on .xxx then they could have priced it at $10 a year or even double at $20 a year but instead used the weak ass "responsible" and "protect your brand" marketing and priced around $100 year as it's nothing more than a money grab like all the failed extensions before it, did we need .mobi for mobile?, do you need .xxx for adult?, develop away on .xxx as it will just send more traffic to .com holders and makes .xxx very easy to censor. __________________ Domain Name Registration Web3 Domains

12-10-2011, 04:19 PM	#64
dannyz-zbuckz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 404	zBUCKz does not support .xxx Also here's more sites that have come out against .XXX (hard to keep up as the list keeps growing): http://www.gaydemon.com - banned all .xxx sites from it's link directories http://www.bestmaleblogs.com - banning all .xxx blogs from it's directory http://www.gaydemon.biz Webmaster industry board - banning all posts related to selling .XXX or earning money from .XXX including link trades http://malesharing.com, arucci.nl, thedailygay.com, gaypornlinks.org - banned .xxx from all link and blog submissions http://adamfucksadam.com, nakedguysblog.com, allnakedmale.com - banned .xxx from all link trades You can find all this info from threads on the Gaydemon.biz webmaster board. __________________ Your Suite of Adult Entertainment Affiliate Programs! http://www.glamourbuckz.com - Top UK Glamour Girls! http://www.jbuckz.com - Japanese hardcore! http://www.zbuckz.com - Everything gay! http://www.dickbank.com - More top converting gay sites. Last edited by dannyz-zbuckz; 12-10-2011 at 04:23 PM..

12-10-2011, 05:32 PM	#65
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12-10-2011, 12:51 PM	#60
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12-10-2011, 06:57 PM	#67
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	Tabarnake WAKE UP ! Don't buy those domains. If you did, shame on you but don't develop them. Take the hit and think further ahead ! It's like shooting yourself in the foot !

12-10-2011, 07:04 PM	#68
CyberHustler Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,427	cyberhustler = doesn't care