Bellacash has attempted to ruin my reputation over Bryci hardcore reference [pics]. - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

bean-aid · 12-21-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

An affiliate's role is to promote programs. So why is this one special that he was "going out of his way?"

As for the rest of this, those of us showing understand of the program's side regarding the performer's persona and previously used ones, as well as the nature of her current content versus past content....I know I don't, and I don't think any of the others are agreeing with the way the program handled the issue. No one here is defending the "threatening legal address" tactic, nor any of the other things the sponsor did (contacting 200 other webmasters, etc.). We're just saying there's logical reason for the sponsor not wanting the model's new persona (which is softcore) being promoted using anything that might reference her past personas and content (obviously hardcore).

Again, I don't think anyone is defending the unprofessional way the sponsor handled the issue. We're merely addressing the core issue itself.

Sorry, the text he used was perfectly fine in my book.

If the owner gets his panties in a bunch because his current ex gf blew massive dick and now she is a sweet heart... That's his problem.

Alias didn't say anything derogatory in the post to make sales from the program. He used the word pornstar and something else.

This thread is getting ridiculous.

Sure wish there was a program who converted crazy and didn't give a shit with extra drama

Tempest · 12-22-2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

So..... what does a bunch of obsessed stalker-like fanboys sharing all of her personas and pictures have to do with how an affiliate markets her current site and persona? Those fans will figure it out and find her pics regardless of if an affiliate acknowledges her past personas or not. And for all those "porn guys" who know all the different names she's been under and trading her pics, there's a bunch of new fans just being exposed to her for the first time through the affiliate's marketing. Those new fans may not even want to know that Bryci once did hardcore as Tia. Yet you feel that since some people know about it, we should just consider it that everyone does. So since some 8 year olds know Santa doesn't exist, we might as well just assume all 8 year olds know he's made-up. Fuck any fantasy or illusion they may have preferred to hold on to (either by choice or ignorance---that's irrelevant).

On top of that, you seem to feel that since "everyone" knows she once worked as "alias A" and now is "alias B," it should be perfectly acceptable to reference "alias A" and even its content when promoting "alias B." So a girl performs for Company A as Slut. She performs for Company B as Whore. So you think that its ok to promote Whore using Slut's content? So we should feel no qualms in using the content that Company A owns to send traffic and revenue to Company B?

Seems to me like you're the one living in a mental bubble.

Like I said "metal bubble"... The "persona" some new bf decides to give her is irrelevant to the realities of what happens on the internet and with those that surf for porn. All it does is tie the hands of affiliates to market to THEIR traffic and to cater to what THEIR traffic is looking for and thus results in lost sales for everyone. When it comes to marketing porn chicks, you market her.. Not the site. She could be on 10 different sites. You promote all of them under her "name".. Freeones for example is not a directory of porn sites. It's forum is not filled with porn site threads.. It's a directory of the girls. The vast majority of the threads are about a specific model.

As for the entire content drivel... If I have a site or section on a site that has content from a particular girl, it includes content from lots of sites... Some of the content will get the surfer interested in her.. Some other site (having "used" that other content indirectly) might end up closing the deal and getting the sale.. It's simply the way it is and if you think differently then you really don't understand porn marketing.

Simon · 12-22-2011, 06:34 AM

Well, this is the Porn Business and I always thought that "softcore" was just an adjective.

As in, you know, "softcore porn" ... which I thought meant that someone who does softcore porn could still aspire to being called a Porn Star.

I guess thousands of girl's dreams are simply crushed now.

CaptainHowdy · 12-22-2011, 07:29 AM

I feel stupidier after going through this thread ...

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2011, 07:37 AM

wait, someone is using false descriptions in porn?

GASP!!!

an industry full of fake tits, lips, asses, vag lips, lashes and people paid to fake orgasms on camera.... this industry is based on using words to increase clicks.

get over it.

also, you aint gonna get a free ipod, i lie in those banners

i also make ads that say you got a new message! and well, you dont...

CurrentlySober · 12-22-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Never, ever, ever, never, EVER date a nude model, pornstar, escort, stripper or cam girl.

Agreed... I just married mine...

Phoenix · 12-22-2011, 07:55 AM

no one agrees with me that she is kinda cute?

jimmycooper · 12-22-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Like I said "metal bubble"... The "persona"

That's called branding and effective branding is one of the major reasons why Bryci has consistently been one of the top 2 or 3 searched solo girls on FreeOnes over the past two years.

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Originally Posted by Tempest

some new bf decides to give

Branding is consistent through all BellaCash sites and the same rules apply to all sites thereby making their relationship entirely irrelevant to the discussion unless you're hellbent on proving that you do indeed have the mindset of a catty teenager.

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Originally Posted by Tempest

tie the hands of affiliates

They are establishing guidelines so as the affiliate will not mislead surfers and their doing so suggests that they likely have clearly defined long term goals.

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Originally Posted by Tempest

to market to THEIR traffic and to cater to what THEIR traffic is looking for and thus results in lost sales for everyone. When it comes to marketing porn chicks, you market her.. Not the site. She could be on 10 different sites. You promote all of them under her "name".. Freeones for example is not a directory of porn sites. It's forum is not filled with porn site threads.. It's a directory of the girls. The vast majority of the threads are about a specific model.

As for the entire content drivel... If I have a site or section on a site that has content from a particular girl, it includes content from lots of sites... Some of the content will get the surfer interested in her.. Some other site (having "used" that other content indirectly) might end up closing the deal and getting the sale.. It's simply the way it is and if you think differently then you really don't understand porn marketing.

A lot of times people don't know what they want until you show it to them but if you overwhelm with two many options there is good chance that they'll get confused. Marketing is about knowing your product, knowing the needs and wants of your target, matching your product with the proper target, and making a call to action. The method you speak of can best be described as throwing shit against the wall.

Now go clean your room.

Mutt · 12-22-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

no one agrees with me that she is kinda cute?

she's more than kinda cute, she's ranked in the top 5 girls on FreeOnes consistently.

Phoenix · 12-22-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

she's more than kinda cute, she's ranked in the top 5 girls on FreeOnes consistently.

i should check out freeones someday

maybe i can use it to find some hot new sites

i currently just use teencats 6bot..lol

Brujah · 09-08-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

she's more than kinda cute, she's ranked in the top 5 girls on FreeOnes consistently.

Where's this top 5 girls list?

Young · 09-08-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

If my GF was oozing white cream when I fucked her, I'd have her checked out.

You need to get caught up on your sex ed, breh.

Pseudonymous · 09-08-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Where's this top 5 girls list?

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0 (past year)

http://www.freeones.ca/new/links/adultmodels.shtml for yesterdays top searches (on the right)

Another list

doesn't contain bryci as she is not in the category but figured i would give it to you guys to look for models to promote

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0 (centerfold category)

iwantchixx · 09-08-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

NaughtyVisions we were not promoting hardcore, it was a feelgood post but the images had been cropped which removed their watermark.

Word on the street is that the webmaster is in a relationship with the model so any obscure reference to bryci doing hardcore porn [with another dick, previously] agitates him.

The thing is we didn't describe it as watch this girl get gangbanged or anything, I think it is a touchy subject.

No worries, posts deleted. I only posted this thread because of an email that referenced alerting 200 webmasters.

Of course, it's penis envy.

AmeliaG · 09-08-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

PimpRoll is on the list for the second phase. Love everyone over there. I plan to do PimpRoll's stuff about 3x bigger than everyone else's, because I know how well they've done for me in the past.

I'm testing with PrideBucks now, and the conversions are ridiculous. I can't believe how well they're converting.

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AmeliaG · 09-08-2012, 08:51 PM

Humorously, I thought this was the other thread when I first read the end of it.

jimmycooper · 09-08-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0 (past year)

http://www.freeones.ca/new/links/adultmodels.shtml for yesterdays top searches (on the right)

Another list

doesn't contain bryci as she is not in the category but figured i would give it to you guys to look for models to promote

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0 (centerfold category)

I regularly use the advanced search page. Very useful for searching by country.

http://www.freeones.com/search/advancedsearch.html

Here's Marika Fruscio who I just found after doing a search for Italian sportswomen. I'm guessing that whatever sport she plays is not very hard on the back.

DamageX · 09-09-2012, 01:36 AM

Crap, the hardcore pics are gone... Anyone got a mirror?

VenusBlogger · 09-09-2012, 03:50 AM

I had a similar problem with one shitty sponsor. (not this bella shit, another one)

The sponsors closed my account because the photographer didn't like how I was promoting the women.

The women in the paysite were all nude, but the photographer of the content FORCED the sponsor to close my account because I was putting words like masturbating or slut in my blogs, and the shitty photographer didn't like the idea)...

So, the shitty sponsor closed my account, and he STILL OWES me money...

Seriously, these last 2 years, some sponsors act like fucking idiots, no wonder some are realy going out of business, with that attitude, nobody will promote them.

PIRIOD.

jimmycooper · 09-09-2012, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

I had a similar problem with one shitty sponsor. (not this bella shit, another one)

The sponsors closed my account because the photographer didn't like how I was promoting the women.

The women in the paysite were all nude, but the photographer of the content FORCED the sponsor to close my account because I was putting words like masturbating or slut in my blogs, and the shitty photographer didn't like the idea)...

So, the shitty sponsor closed my account, and he STILL OWES me money...

Seriously, these last 2 years, some sponsors act like fucking idiots, no wonder some are realy going out of business, with that attitude, nobody will promote them.

PIRIOD.

Who is the sponsor? I usually support efforts that sponsors take to protect their brand.

oppoten · 09-09-2012, 07:27 AM

I also had a similar issue with Bella Cash, based solely on the domain name that I put on the form when I signed up. Fortunately they canned my account straight away, but the guy's attitude left a bad taste.

ErectMedia · 09-09-2012, 08:07 AM

Joined this a long time ago. Remember the terms/tone being a little tougher. See nothing wrong with having strict terms as their content but tone of declaring those terms was a little rough for my taste.

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Originally Posted by Qbert

That he's in a relationship with the model concerns me more than the unprofessional demeanor alone. It tells me that when the relationship goes south, so does the web site.

don't dip the pen in the company ink

DamageX · 09-09-2012, 09:17 AM

Seriously now, who's got the hardcore pics?

James · 09-23-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Where's this top 5 girls list?

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0

#3 for the last year.

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0

#4 for last 90 days

http://www.freeones.ca/baberank/?t=l...&hc=0&cs=&ec=0

#5 for last 30 days.

Bryci converts well for the affiliates that promote her. Ask Roald or any of the major affiliates out there that do promote her. If she's not right for you, no worries, best of luck in whoever or whatever you do promote.

seXXXhub · 09-23-2012, 02:11 AM

i cant see any pics

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gleem · 09-23-2012, 08:14 AM

What's so hard to understand... if a site doesn't have hardcore and you promote it as having things in the member's area the pay site doesn't offer members, then joins you send will be expecting something that isn't there and create all kinds of bullshit for customer service to deal with and plenty will chargeback.

Grow up.

12-22-2011, 06:34 AM	#103
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09-09-2012, 01:36 AM	#118
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Crap, the hardcore pics are gone... Anyone got a mirror? __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

09-09-2012, 03:50 AM	#119
VenusBlogger So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,540	I had a similar problem with one shitty sponsor. (not this bella shit, another one) The sponsors closed my account because the photographer didn't like how I was promoting the women. The women in the paysite were all nude, but the photographer of the content FORCED the sponsor to close my account because I was putting words like masturbating or slut in my blogs, and the shitty photographer didn't like the idea)... So, the shitty sponsor closed my account, and he STILL OWES me money... Seriously, these last 2 years, some sponsors act like fucking idiots, no wonder some are realy going out of business, with that attitude, nobody will promote them. PIRIOD.

09-09-2012, 07:27 AM	#121
oppoten NAME THE JEW Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,793	I also had a similar issue with Bella Cash, based solely on the domain name that I put on the form when I signed up. Fortunately they canned my account straight away, but the guy's attitude left a bad taste.

09-09-2012, 09:17 AM	#123
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Seriously now, who's got the hardcore pics? __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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09-23-2012, 08:14 AM	#126
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	What's so hard to understand... if a site doesn't have hardcore and you promote it as having things in the member's area the pay site doesn't offer members, then joins you send will be expecting something that isn't there and create all kinds of bullshit for customer service to deal with and plenty will chargeback. Grow up. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com