What are the options to ccbill for starting a paysite - GoFuckYourself.com

tonyparra · 01-16-2012, 04:22 PM

If you dont have or dont want to try and pay the $750 visa fee?

**edit: This is for a friend with a active niche website, should they stay at ccbill or go somewhere else?**

tonyparra · 01-16-2012, 06:08 PM

bump bump

stocktrader23 · 01-16-2012, 06:25 PM

Epoch and Verotel.

CYF · 01-16-2012, 06:30 PM

doesn't zombaio pay the visa fee for you? or was that a special offer at one point?

fitzmulti · 01-16-2012, 06:46 PM

Just to point out, the $750 is a VISA fee, not a CCBILL fee.
I am sure there might be alternatives to this, but since you are asking, I figured you should be aware that it's not CCBILL having that fee...although they do collect it.
Fitz

tonyparra · 01-16-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Epoch and Verotel.

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Originally Posted by CYF

doesn't zombaio pay the visa fee for you? or was that a special offer at one point?

Will look at those places first, other options are welcome

stocktrader23 · 01-16-2012, 07:09 PM

I'm blind dude, Verotel has a no fee option but Epoch doesn't I don't think. I just know Epoch can process some cards.

xenigo · 01-16-2012, 07:09 PM

Since when does Epoch not charge the $750 VISA fee?

2MuchMark · 01-16-2012, 10:21 PM

Don't mess around. Go with a biller you trust and has a good name, and pay the Visa registration fee. You don't want your business to suddenly go on hold because you tried to save a few bucks pulling something sneaky. Start your business the right way.

Manowar · 01-17-2012, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I'm blind dude, Verotel has a no fee option but Epoch doesn't I don't think. I just know Epoch can process some cards.

this.....

DWB · 01-17-2012, 03:56 AM

CCbill EU has no Visa fee.

helenaBlue · 01-17-2012, 03:58 AM

commercegate

Operator · 01-17-2012, 04:02 AM

A bunch of geography based bull shit

Michael O · 01-17-2012, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

Will look at those places first, other options are welcome

Zombaio does not charge the $750 Visa fee, hit me up if you have any questions regarding Zombaio.

The Heron · 01-17-2012, 07:24 AM

If he's got a site and can't afford 750 to accept visa he's doing it wrong.

BareBacked · 01-17-2012, 09:12 AM

CCbill has lost the plot

CHARGER · 01-17-2012, 09:31 AM

i start with $50.00

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Originally Posted by The Heron

If he's got a site and can't afford 750 to accept visa he's doing it wrong.

ccjax · 01-17-2012, 10:46 AM

Yeah, the Visa High-Risk Merchant Registration Fee is an annual Visa Fee, and not a CCBill (or Epoch or SegPay) fee ? and like fitzmulti said, it is based on the Visa region in which the processor AND the merchant are located.

Plus it is an annual registration fee.

If you are a US or Canadian merchant ? and have high-risk content ? the fee is paid one way or another. We collect it on behalf of you as the merchant and pay Visa in advance prior to the Visa review process.

Unfortunately, it?s one of those costs of doing business, but it does only apply to being able to accept Visa for high-risk content ? and not to all the other payment types. But Visa is a big chunk of the market, obviously.

We do offer the ability to automatically deduct payments for the annual RENEWAL fee, but since CCBill has to provide that fee to Visa upfront before you can process ? we don?t breakdown the upfront fee.

ANYHOW - drop me a line and we can see what options we might have to transition them into Visa without breaking the budget.

ArsewithClass · 01-17-2012, 11:37 AM

What does visa class as high-risk content?

DominiqueD · 01-17-2012, 01:53 PM

I got rejected by visa when i first launched my first website a few years back which really inconvenienced me because I had to edit some stellar content on my tour pages on the visitor end because they said the content was too graphic. So not only are they expensive, but they are anal about what they will let slide and what they will pull the plug on.

OY · 01-17-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Don't mess around. Go with a biller you trust and has a good name, and pay the Visa registration fee. You don't want your business to suddenly go on hold because you tried to save a few bucks pulling something sneaky. Start your business the right way.

Quoted for truth!

bean-aid · 01-17-2012, 02:27 PM

If you intend to use affiliates then CCBill is the route if budget is low to start. If you want to just get the site accepting payment to start can't hurt to start with Zombaio and not pay the Visa Fee.

Zombaio processes the cards well. But if you use them initially then put them back in the cascade your rates will likely go up.

DominiqueD · 01-17-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

If you intend to use affiliates then CCBill is the route if budget is low to start. If you want to just get the site accepting payment to start can't hurt to start with Zombaio and not pay the Visa Fee.

Zombaio processes the cards well. But if you use them initially then put them back in the cascade your rates will likely go up.

How is that a good thing if they are missing payouts and there are tons of threads on here with complaints about them? Sincere question.

bean-aid · 01-17-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DominiqueD

How is that a good thing if they are missing payouts and there are tons of threads on here with complaints about them? Sincere question.

Somebody else can chime in if they haven't been paid. I know they had a couple issues... thought it was resolved.

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stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	I'm blind dude, Verotel has a no fee option but Epoch doesn't I don't think. I just know Epoch can process some cards. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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Operator So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: ΠπΠ Posts: 2,419	A bunch of geography based bull shit

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ccjax Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona, USA Posts: 22	Yeah, the Visa High-Risk Merchant Registration Fee is an annual Visa Fee, and not a CCBill (or Epoch or SegPay) fee ? and like fitzmulti said, it is based on the Visa region in which the processor AND the merchant are located. Plus it is an annual registration fee. If you are a US or Canadian merchant ? and have high-risk content ? the fee is paid one way or another. We collect it on behalf of you as the merchant and pay Visa in advance prior to the Visa review process. Unfortunately, it?s one of those costs of doing business, but it does only apply to being able to accept Visa for high-risk content ? and not to all the other payment types. But Visa is a big chunk of the market, obviously. We do offer the ability to automatically deduct payments for the annual RENEWAL fee, but since CCBill has to provide that fee to Visa upfront before you can process ? we don?t breakdown the upfront fee. ANYHOW - drop me a line and we can see what options we might have to transition them into Visa without breaking the budget.

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ArsewithClass So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 7,957	What does visa class as high-risk content?

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DominiqueD Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 39	I got rejected by visa when i first launched my first website a few years back which really inconvenienced me because I had to edit some stellar content on my tour pages on the visitor end because they said the content was too graphic. So not only are they expensive, but they are anal about what they will let slide and what they will pull the plug on.

01-17-2012, 02:27 PM	#22
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	If you intend to use affiliates then CCBill is the route if budget is low to start. If you want to just get the site accepting payment to start can't hurt to start with Zombaio and not pay the Visa Fee. Zombaio processes the cards well. But if you use them initially then put them back in the cascade your rates will likely go up.