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... was amazing.

Sorry Newtfans, you don't stand a chance.

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Hes a good public speaker....

Maybe even hypnotic

raymor

He's an excellent speaker. He knows just what to say and what NOT to say. He's very, very good at leaving out the right words. Things like "I won't increase your income taxes or your social security taxes" (instead I'll start inventing entirely new taxes within months of taking office).

For another example, in all of his major speeches since 2008 he's promised to bring our troops home. Let's have a look at what he meant by that:



He did exactly what he said, he brought the troops home. Being the polished speaker he is, he didn't mention he was going to bring them home in pine boxes. I don't know about you, but I prefer to NOT be dead.

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No offense intended, but I'm always amazed at people that take the State of the Union seriously. It's all political grandstanding at it's finest. Amazing speech or not (I think the man has been full of shit since before elected and continues to be so), he and every other president 99% of the time say the things that are intended to sway public opinion and get them re-elected.

We'll see what he does from now on, but my money is on more of the same and to this point in his administration I am not impressed at all. I will give him credit for the milk joke though. Props to the writer and he delivered it very nicely.

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stocktrader23

Obama has said from day 1 that he would be drawing down Iraq and adding troops to Afghanistan. To say otherwise makes you a liar, or completely uninformed.

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raymor

In 2009 Obama was talking about drawing down in Afghanistan. In 2008 he was promising to have ALL of the combat troops out of Iraq by March 2009, then by 2010, then by 2011. If you paid very close attention to exactly the words he used, you knew he was sending them to die someone else, but a LOT of people voted for him thinking he was the anti-war candidate who would bring the troops home. Just as a most Americans thought he promised not to raise taxes. In truth, he only promised not to raise income taxes and social security taxes, he never said he wouldn't invent entirely new taxes, but most people didn't think he'd do that and most people thought that when he said "bring the troops home" he meant it.

Watch him on this video if you don't believe me. Seven months ago he said he was starting the withdrawal from Afghanistan and promised to have half the troops out by last month. Are they home?



When questioned about Afghanistan, he has at times certainly acknowledged that he's sending a lot of our boys over there, but that's not what he says in the State of the Union or other major speeches. His speeches are all about bringing our people home. In his speech tonight did you hear him mention he meant bringing them home for a few weeks before sending them to die in Afghanistan?

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Dude,.... give your Obama hate mongering a rest. We get it. You're a Republican.

If we wanted to pull out all of our fingers and toe to count the bullshit that Bush promised us during his 8 years, and did not fulfill, we would have to bring in all of GFY to keep count.

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raymor

I guess you missed all of my posts about Bush. Dubya sucked. His dad wasn't too bad. G HW Bush and Clinton didn't screw things up too much. They had that nice growing economy from the last of the HW Bush years to the first of the Clinton years, overall not bad. GW Bush and Obama - both sucked ass.

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How about break up the monopolies in Healthcare.

stocktrader23

Is there a yawn smiley?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...des-from-iraq/

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i know you can't see the difference between a president who was given a relatively healthy economy and society and drove it into the ground, and another who is struggling to rebuild after that disaster, but there is.

stocktrader23

It's this kind of shit right here.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...o-afghanistan/

Did Obama say it or did Fox News tell you Obama said it? Or did you assume he meant it because he said he'd do it in Iraq?

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DWB

Yes he his.

1) He reads every word from two teleprompters.

2) His talent ends at being an excellent speaker.

He should give speeches for a living. Not be the president.

raymor

Dude I posted video of him saying it. You saw him say it and you don't believe your own ears and eyes? Talk about chugging the Koolaid.

Fletch XXX

well considering he did nothing but lie the last time he told us he would do stuff i dont think ill vote for him again.

he is just telling people what they want to hear. and after the vote its business as usual, war war war...

he lied about medical marijuana and he will lie about everything else. he said he would fight to legalize it, and then sent his DEA pals to begin raids....

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cherrylula

And the political climate has nothing to do with any of the Presidents... has to do with the people who actually run the country.

the President is just the spokesman to keep everyone happy. He's like the biggest customer service rep in the world.

Obama is good at it. Smooth, and people love him. But he lied about rescheduling cannabis.

cherrylula

It will be interesting to see what he does after his Presidency...

PornoMonster

Everyone knows the state of the Union speech is, just that a Speech.

You can Promise the Moon, when you know the stuff will never pass.
Honestly as you all might know, I do not like the guy, but most of what he said sounded good. Again that is what the speech is to do, make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
I am so tired of this may or may not happen, I am Ready to raise the taxes on the rich, just so we can see what will happen.
Cap gains tax is 15% they want to make it 30-35% I hear, why not just hit a middle of 25%, and settle.

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Stocktrader23 -- I have said this before Obama has played the political card Very well. Most of the people I live around thought he was going to end all wars, but yes the Left and Obama can dig up video saying he said we were fighting the wrong war.
I went and googled, first video I found was him saying
The First thing that needs fixed is the Economy with 2 unfunded Wars.

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raymor

I know you're too far gone to understand this, but the economy took a dip in the last months of 2008, partly due to Bush's overspending. It might have turned into a typical recession, which lasts six to nine months. 2008 was four years ago.

Since then, Obama has racked up more debt than the combined total of 225 years, from George Washington to Bush. Over two centuries of debt in just three years. Our health insurance costs have gone up over 50% in just two years.

Obama says he should be a one term president:


Bush was a dummy and the economy dipped for a few months under Bush, but four years and trillions of dollars later blaming him is getting really old.

nico-t

speeches don't mean shit, absolutely nothing. Only to the idiot sheep.