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Old 01-30-2012, 04:36 AM   #51
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i guess hard work stinks, making just one movie, and noone will ever find out and you get a lot of money for a few hours of work sound nice, and then when you get a lot of money, you start spending a lot, so you have to make new movies, and then you start having new even more expensive habits, that you must have, so you need even more money.. this is my guess..
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:25 AM   #52
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OK I will tell ya...you knew I would

Money is just the icing on the cake....I dont claim to understand women...AT ALL...but one thing I have learned in 20 years doing this biz with first timers.....Its all about validation that they are pretty.

Nothing is true for everyone but this is one of the over-riding reasons I still see all the time.
I have seen this in action. Get a camera out the next time you are having sex and see if the mood doesn't heat up real fast.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:32 AM   #53
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the real reason yet: DRUGS. They all want fast money for drugs. End of story. You can tell yourself otherwise, but it's drugs they spend their money on and it's drugs that make them desperate enough to suck a dick on camera. It's the drugs that make them undependable. If they have enough money for drugs at the moment, they don't show for work. The second they run out of money for dope they get on the phone and want work. Not all are this way, but I'm willing to bet that 95% or more are.
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Yes Pal MOST - in the US at least.. I would say that the majority of all 12-16 year olds in the USA are doing nude camming for their boyfriends or at least trading nude pics. It's incredibly prevalent, FAR more than most parents would ever realize.. you have a daughter? Is that why you take offense to these facts?
I have a daughter and while your statement holds truth, the "majority" part is WRONG. Not all teen girls are fucking sluts fucking their boyfriends! Maybe in the ghettos. lol
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one thing I have learned in 20 years doing this biz with first timers.....Its all about validation that they are pretty.
We used to say that a lot in our chat studios.... that at least 1/2 of the girls would work for free, just for the positive attention from users. A substantial % weren't there for the money at all.
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If you have to do movies, photoshoots and webcams to make $100,000 per year I'd skip the first two and stick with webcams where you can make that alone and without sucking on strange dick. If these girls only knew that they'd make twice as much promoting the cam site creatively than they do on cam it would be game over.
I've heard numerous porn stars talk about how BORING webcam work is. lol. It's a LIFESTYLE people. The chicks who make the best porn stars are already raging sluts. A lot end up doing porn because they're already fucking the neighborhood and everyone knows, why not get paid. lol
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As the only actual vagina in here posting, there are many reasons girls do porn. Some are excited and want the attention, and the money is good. Some are really broke and need fast cash. Some are already a porn star lifestyle just need to shoot. And lots are strippers who decide to make the jump.

The 18's who get on the bus and come to LA have daddy issues. Or parent issues. I had girls cry on my shoulder (18 yo) because they discovered the industry wasn't what they thought, and "didn't want to do anal."
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:28 AM   #58
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Wow I'm shocked that not one person here actually understands the psychology behind why most of the girls who do porn choose to do it.

Stunned.....And no I'm not going to tell you, but in fairness should you get it right I will recognize that.
It's ok. The industry just needs to process their content. Sadly, the girls are 18 and responsible for their own actions.

I was one of the desperate ones once. Needed money. Had some friends refer me to Suze Randall and I actually went to her studio and she took a polaroid of me. She said to hit the tanning booth a couple times and call back to schedule shoot, I'd be a pro slut in two weeks. LOL. She was very cool, but I chickened out and made my way to the where the real money was.

Now I own so much content of naked women, I'm like, what was I thinking?!?
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:21 AM   #59
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the real reason yet: DRUGS. They all want fast money for drugs. End of story. You can tell yourself otherwise, but it's drugs they spend their money on and it's drugs that make them desperate enough to suck a dick on camera. It's the drugs that make them undependable. If they have enough money for drugs at the moment, they don't show for work. The second they run out of money for dope they get on the phone and want work. Not all are this way, but I'm willing to bet that 95% or more are.
Wrong. Drugs ranks way low on the reason girls do porn - also ranks very low on what these girls spend their money on. A lot of girls in the LA porn world dabble in a little blow or meth there is no doubt, but the vast majority do not. Even the ones that do spend a very small portion of their income on it.
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I have a daughter and while your statement holds truth, the "majority" part is WRONG. Not all teen girls are fucking sluts fucking their boyfriends! Maybe in the ghettos. lol

It's mostly white girls Im talking about, in the ghettos they dont have privacy and their own computers. White girls have the iphones and the PC's in their rooms.

I would definitely say most, in fact I would even go so far to say that digital has probably replaced real world when it comes to a teens (often pre-teen) most common first sexual encounter with another person.

Girls are having cyber long before real sex, it's a very well known and discussed phenomenon and on the news quite often.
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It's mostly white girls Im talking about, in the ghettos they dont have privacy and their own computers. White girls have the iphones and the PC's in their rooms.

I would definitely say most, in fact I would even go so far to say that digital has probably replaced real world when it comes to a teens (often pre-teen) most common first sexual encounter with another person.

Girls are having cyber long before real sex, it's a very well known and discussed phenomenon and on the news quite often.
it used to be a note passed from girl to boy saying do you like me check yes or no. now they send some sexy pics online with the same intentions. the world dun changed.
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OK I will tell ya...you knew I would

Money is just the icing on the cake....I dont claim to understand women...AT ALL...but one thing I have learned in 20 years doing this biz with first timers.....Its all about validation that they are pretty.

Nothing is true for everyone but this is one of the over-riding reasons I still see all the time.

Sorry o wise sage but desire for attention is bigger than the pretty thing, the girls who wanna be models on model mayhem yes.. you're right- but fucking on camera? Also dont underestimate the need/want for money as an even bigger factor. Girls these days grow up seeing all these nice clothes and handbags and shoes and jewelry... they want that stuff bad.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:48 AM   #63
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Paul, thanks for fucking this thread up with your big walls of text. You are worse than longcat.
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When it comes to our demographic, I think people are more interested to make their own sites because it's just a more natural way to make a living. You get a hand in the creative aspect, you learn a lot about marketing, you essentially own your own business and you get to do all of this by being yourself and having the sex you want to have with someone with whom you have genuine chemistry.

I can't speak to "girls" doing porn in the more traditional sense, but we're seeing an uptick in intelligent people who are starting to see porn as a viable option for themselves because it's slowly becoming less stigmatized to be sexual, providing it can be adequately contextualized as being about being creative/independent.
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When it comes to our demographic, I think people are more interested to make their own sites because it's just a more natural way to make a living. You get a hand in the creative aspect, you learn a lot about marketing, you essentially own your own business and you get to do all of this by being yourself and having the sex you want to have with someone with whom you have genuine chemistry.

I can't speak to "girls" doing porn in the more traditional sense, but we're seeing an uptick in intelligent people who are starting to see porn as a viable option for themselves because it's slowly becoming less stigmatized to be sexual, providing it can be adequately contextualized as being about being creative/independent.
Nice to see an erotic intellectual here in the monkey cage. I like your couples fare websites...it really illustrates the stark difference between what a woman wants to see and the tastes of most men:

Women: "The way you give me pleasure is absolutely indescribable. You made every inch of my body melt like ice cream until I couldn't take it any more and I exploded from sheer delight... You are my soulmate and your body fits me perfectly. I love you."

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It's amazing how many chicks just want to do it once to try. We don't really work with girls like that but I get hit up on Twitter all the time by girls that are curious and will do it. And of course there are guys making money shooting nothing but newbies that will probably never do more than 1 or 2 scenes.
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I don't understand why so many of you is so harsh for the girls that are your bread, anyway, as for the question the answer is very simple, as always it's all about money.
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Why do girls do porn? Money, plain and simple.

Chicks make more in one day in porn than they can all week working behind the counter at some crappy fast food restaurant.
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The only girls I can understand doing porn are those like Melissa Midwest and Ariel Rebel...

But for a girl to just come in and do porn at $300 a shoot and what not it makes no sense to me...

Take Teen Revenue for example... The only girl there in this group would be Lupe. All others came in, got their money in a few weeks of shooting and now their sites make that much cash everyday since... The girls get nothing...

So why don't they save up a small amount of scratch and own their site?

I know... I know... because they are stupid and they don't want responsibility...
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Just to make sure you know... I know... yeah...

Little Lupe doesn't get money from that site... I know... But it gives her exposure to be worth money at shows, etc...
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nowadays, there isnt any big bucks for talent anymore
Probably the amateur girls who buy cheap digital photo camera or just shooting with their phones are not included. Cause these are shooting this just for fun - I guess....
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Many of the other hot girls I shoot disappear after a brief career for all kinds of reasons from they met their short term goal (court courts & restitution typically), due to boyfriend issues, parents finding out they did porn a week after they started and similar reasons.
Wait, are you saying some of them are so dumb that they imagine there is a slight possibility of parents or relatives not finding it out?
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why is it men speaking for them? let's hear what some porn whores have to say for themselves.
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Yes Pal MOST - in the US at least.. I would say that the majority of all 12-16 year olds in the USA are doing nude camming for their boyfriends or at least trading nude pics. It's incredibly prevalent, FAR more than most parents would ever realize.. you have a daughter? Is that why you take offense to these facts?
Maybe most of those that came to you wanting to do porn. Definitely not majority of all population.
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Wait, are you saying some of them are so dumb that they imagine there is a slight possibility of parents or relatives not finding it out?
I never said that. I don't feel the need to put the models down that I make my living off of. But the reality is that many young girls get into porn almost on a whim or lark rather than as a well thought out career plan. Oftentimes it's because they know someone else who did it or a boyfriend suggests it to them or maybe they have some short term need for money and they answer an advert somewhere looking for models. And then that short term financial need gets met in a short time frame of a few weeks or they get that phone call from their parents when a family member or acquaintance sees the content and squeals on them. Or maybe they have a bad experience with some other producer or simply tire of the grind. So oftentimes they just don't have a lengthy career of more than a couple of weeks or months- even the really hot ones that could be doing it for a few years if they worked it diligently.
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I'll throw my hat into the ring here. I'd be willing to bet the reasons they choose to get involved in porn include:

1. Fame
2. Money


My question is? Why don't more do it?

My father always said the key to happiness is:

" Find something you enjoy doing and then find someone willing to pay you for it"

If you look at study after study on most pleasurable activities, in every culture in the world, sex is always in the top five ( usually #1 and #2 ). And this is consistent across male and female respondents.

So pornstars get paid lets say $1000 per scene to participate in the worlds most pleasurable activity ? As far as I'm concerned.. they have it made.

My out of shape ass is jealous!
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I'll throw my hat into the ring here. I'd be willing to bet the reasons they choose to get involved in porn include:

1. Fame
2. Money


My question is? Why don't more do it?

My father always said the key to happiness is:

" Find something you enjoy doing and then find someone willing to pay you for it"

If you look at study after study on most pleasurable activities, in every culture in the world, sex is always in the top five ( usually #1 and #2 ). And this is consistent across male and female respondents.

So pornstars get paid lets say $1000 per scene to participate in the worlds most pleasurable activity ? As far as I'm concerned.. they have it made.

My out of shape ass is jealous!
Great post except you are way off about fame part... for some yes, the want to get fame, but thats rare for first timers...very rare. For every girl that wants to be the next big famous porn star there are many MANY more that do it and desperately don't want to be seen by friends and family back home.
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It's just dumb girls being dumb girls. It's not nuclear physics.

porn = solved.
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Pretty simple. $$ + Penis. 2 things girls like.
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Little Lupe doesn't get money from that site... I know... But it gives her exposure to be worth money at shows, etc...
Isn't Lupe still on the run from Interpol?
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the real reason yet: DRUGS. They all want fast money for drugs. End of story. You can tell yourself otherwise, but it's drugs they spend their money on and it's drugs that make them desperate enough to suck a dick on camera. It's the drugs that make them undependable. If they have enough money for drugs at the moment, they don't show for work. The second they run out of money for dope they get on the phone and want work. Not all are this way, but I'm willing to bet that 95% or more are.
I will guess you have never shot many girls then. Girls who need to do porn to feed a habit are not the type who sell, good to work with reliable, trustworthy and they have BF who are usually strung out and not the type of people you want knowing where you live.

It's simple. Take anyone of the other reasons out of the equation and the girls still works. Take money out ad she's not there. Even if it's a BF shooting his GF for content, the aim is to sell it.

So what's left, ugly couples doing it for kicks, people to put it on Social Networks for others to steal and any other reasons?

nico-t put me on ignore then.
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