Looking for quality SEO Hosters

[nastyking]

Hey,

I'm looking for quality SEO hosters.

Please post your contact information and how many Class C you could provide.

ICQ: 12-93-93

[baddog]

http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

[nastyking]

Originally Posted by baddog

http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

Already sent you an IM.

[NoWhErE]

Siggy Wiggy

[Rothstein]

don't waste your money.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by nastyking

Already sent you an IM.

If by IM you mean ICQ, I got nothing here. Sorry. Go ahead and use that link, I will be the one to respond

[darksoul]

hit up http://www.mojohost.com/ They got you covered.

[DamianJ]

Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

[darksoul]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

more likely a black paper.
It works if you know how to use it, its not for your everdays' site.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

Seriously?!?

SEO for hire (including the infamous multiple C class myth) is perhaps the largest internet swindle ...

SEO for hire is to the WWW what THe SeX PiStOLs were to the music industry in the late 70s ... They could not play "music" to save their lives ... but still managed to swindle the music industry out of more than 11 million pounds!! (a king's ransom back in those days)

I am shocked that after 8+ years the multiple C class myth is still going very strong ... especially when Jill Whelan, Danny Sulivan, and Mutt Cutts have all very publicly debunked the myth ...

[facialfreak]

I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Some people just really like doing things the hard way I guess ....

[Moose]

99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by Moose

99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

QFFT!!

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by nastyking

Hey,

I'm looking for quality SEO hosters.

Please post your contact information and how many Class C you could provide.

ICQ: 12-93-93

Different C classes won't help for SEO. If at all you will need different A classes from different hosts and data centers. And of course all domains will need different who is info. Anything else is just not working.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

[Spudstr]

Originally Posted by DamageX

Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

And yet all it takes is one person to say the contrary for everyone to believe.

[Rothstein]

Originally Posted by Moose

99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

so true.

[AdultKing]

SEO Hosting is the biggest crock of shit.

Google doesn't care about you being on the same IP.

So called SEO Hosting is a myth generated by people who either have no fucking clue or want to make money selling snake oil to people who thing they will get some magical benefit.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by baddog

http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

Prove to me , please, how being on different class C IP's will help any site group.

I'm pretty sure you cant. However prove me wrong.

[porno jew]

try webair shared hosting. the end.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by DamageX

Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

You could not be more wrong ... I have had these blogs since 2005, and do quite well with them in SERPs for chosen KWs and phrases ...

Play by Google's rules, and you do not have to spend your time trying to hide from them.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

LOL, is that a rhetorical question?

Originally Posted by facialfreak

You could not be more wrong ... I have had these blogs since 2005, and do quite well with them in SERPs for chosen KWs and phrases ...

Play by Google's rules, and you do not have to spend your time trying to hide from them.

Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

[V_RocKs]

Cyberwurx

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[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by DamageX

LOL, is that a rhetorical question?

Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

I agree. Quality Content gets natural links. It's so simple it's ridiculous.

Google has signaled, with Panda and other initiatives, that crap content doesn't belong in the index or is heavily penalized.

Anyone heavily linking sites is as moronic as the people who buy and sell so called SEO hosting.

I have no sympathy for morons who buy and sell SEO hosting on multiple class C's. It's a scam and should be called out for the sham that it is.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

Prove to me , please, how being on different class C IP's will help any site group.

I'm pretty sure you cant. However prove me wrong.

I am trying to decide what would be gained. Personally, I am of the opinion that they are of no use to you. We have hundreds of customers that obviously feel they are of assistance to them.

It comes down to this, if you do not know how to use them, they are probably of no use to you. I don't fault you for it.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by DamageX

LOL, is that a rhetorical question?



Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

If the sites are similar and he's not spamming them(aka - the content quality is good and how he links isn't intrusive), then there won't be any penalties.



As to the rest of the thread..


I have a bridge for sale - it'll help with your SEO about the same as an "SEO" host.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by baddog

I am trying to decide what would be gained. Personally, I am of the opinion that they are of no use to you. We have hundreds of customers that obviously feel they are of assistance to them.

It comes down to this, if you do not know how to use them, they are probably of no use to you. I don't fault you for it.

Yet you cannot justify the service you offer, or refuse to.

Do you have any evidence that the service you provide delivers tangible benefits ? If so what is it ?

If you're unwilling to explain why this service is worthwhile then my original point is proven.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Yet you cannot justify the service you offer, or refuse to.

Do you have any evidence that the service you provide delivers tangible benefits ? If so what is it ?

If you're unwilling to explain why this service is worthwhile then my original point is proven.

I told you, it is of no use to you. I know zilch about your situation so how could I possibly explain how it might benefit you?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by baddog

I told you, it is of no use to you. I know zilch about your situation so how could I possibly explain how it might benefit you?

You're comprehension skills seem lacking.

Please explain how having sites on multiple IP addresses can benefit anyone from an SEO point of view.

[NoWhErE]

If your going to have 5 sites on the same IP that interlink : no biggie. The links won't be as valuable as coming from a site thats on another IP, thats it.


Have 100+ sites on the same IP and interlink them? You may get slapped or the links will count for nothing because everything is coming from your own network.


Have 100 sites on different C class IPs, hidden reg info, etc etc and it will seem like all the cross linking is natural and carry more weight.

If you don't believe or understand the concept, thats fine. But SEO hosting are for those that build huge networks of sites in order to promote themselves and/or sell links.

[iwantchixx]

Search engines care about how relevant you are. Period. Maybe a couple years ago I would say put everything seperate but it doesnt hurt at all having your stuff relatively closely knit to each other. Relevance is what is important.

there are many benefits from having stuff separated but it has nothing to do with c-classes themselves or even a-classes for that matter. Those benefits are dependent on your business model.

if that was the case then all free blog services would have peoples sites listed page 10+ on serps.

Now if you are doing something blackhat or suspicious.. then yeah separate classes are needed so you don't lose everything at once but then you have to ask yourself different questions...

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

If you don't believe or understand the concept, thats fine. But SEO hosting are for those that build huge networks of sites in order to promote themselves and/or sell links.

I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap. Interesting to note that you promote SEO hosting, so you're speaking from the perspective of a person who benefits from propagating the SEO hosting myth.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap.

And it is this comment that makes it clear that you have your mind set. Nothing ANYONE says or shows you will change that. It really is just that simple.

[WiredGuy]

I sale cheap GooglePriorityID's.
WG

[Barefootsies]

[Christina T.]

Interesting thread. I spread out my IP's over many classes. Do you really think there is no benefit to this? I pay additional to have this

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Some people just really like doing things the hard way I guess ....

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap. Interesting to note that you promote SEO hosting, so you're speaking from the perspective of a person who benefits from propagating the SEO hosting myth.

Its not a myth, its part of a certain strategy that some people understand and some don't.

I fly the banner in my sig because I actually quite like the host and find they are a good service for people looking to use their type of service.

Like I said, believe in it or not, thats your choice.

[nastyking]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Siggy Wiggy

Nvmd ...

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Christina T.

Interesting thread. I spread out my IP's over many classes. Do you really think there is no benefit to this? I pay additional to have this

If it's with same host/location/server, IP won't matter.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

If it's with same host/location/server, IP won't matter.

A good SEO host will have plenty of A's, B's and C's as well as private NS and multiple data centers.

[2MuchMark]

Interesting discussion on this subject found here:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...0c961d51&hl=en

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by baddog

A good SEO host will have plenty of A's, B's and C's as well as private NS and multiple data centers.

yes, but the host will leave a huge footprint because other customers will buy same packages interlinking accounts from those different locations with similar C blocks. It will be very suspicious to Google to observe people from 100 different niches using similar linking strategies from 5 data centers .... easy to figure out.

Better to pick random hosts by yourself and buy VPS and reseller accounts.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Talk with Baddog. And Brad Mitchell.

[anexsia]

Everyone's methods are different but for myself, I have a 100+ blogs spread across only 3 IPs and have them all linked together and get lots of good Google rankings...every time there was a Panda update my blog SE traffic would skyrocket along with PR.

Maybe SEO hosting works, maybe it doesn't...but if you put effort into your websites and create quality content that surfers will love, google will love you as well no matter the amount of IPs you're using.

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I sale cheap GooglePriorityID's.
WG

Dude, seriously, wtf? You told me I had an exclusive deal on those!

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by trevesty

If the sites are similar and he's not spamming them(aka - the content quality is good and how he links isn't intrusive), then there won't be any penalties.



As to the rest of the thread..


I have a bridge for sale - it'll help with your SEO about the same as an "SEO" host.

I agree with 100% of your post.

DamagedX:
Google actually has webmaster guidelines freely available that will tell you EXACTLY what they will tolerate - or even embrace. There is no guesswork involved at all. If your links are highly relevant, and make proper use of inline anchor text, as to not be overly intrusive to the site, linking to other articles you have written is actually encouraged, and will help to increase your SERPs.

[facialfreak]

I have used this same analogy several times here and elsewhere, so for the benefit of new viewers, I will again repeat it.

If you’re going to the bank to cash a check, there’s nothing wrong with driving your own car. If you’re going to the bank to rob it, on the other hand, driving your own car is going to make it ridiculously easy for the police to find you.

However, even if you steal a car before robbing the bank, the odds of you actually getting away with the crime aren’t exactly favorable. There are just too many ways to get caught and eliminating the most obvious, be it your car -or IP addresses - is of minimal help to you.

The solution?

Don’t rob the bank, and the convenience of using your own car will never become an issue.

[porno jew]

get links from high pr authority sites and get your site pushed around social media. the end.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

yes, but the host will leave a huge footprint because other customers will buy same packages interlinking accounts from those different locations with similar C blocks. It will be very suspicious to Google to observe people from 100 different niches using similar linking strategies from 5 data centers .... easy to figure out.

Better to pick random hosts by yourself and buy VPS and reseller accounts.

You make huge, inaccurate assumptions.