Webcam sponsor complaints? Let's hear em!

[Tofu]

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?




I know I'm opening the troll-gates here, but it's a serious question, in an attempt to get some opinions on how we can make webcams work for you guys.
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[2013]

Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

[Jayvis]

Not enough Tofu

[idolbucks]

Originally Posted by 2013

Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

Easy to please!

[signupdamnit]

Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING. I make money, you make money. We're both happy. That's all there is to it. If I make money I will push the hell out of your program. If I make money with you for years I will be the first to promote your new site or program. The same goes for dating. You (not you personally but those doing it in general) may think you are getting away with it or being cute but you're not. The numbers directly influence my decision whether to promote you and how much effort I put into promoting you. You're fucking yourself in addition to me and soon I wont be there for you to fuck so it'll be just YOU fucking yourself.

I wish more sponsors would get this. There are some of us here who have been affiliates for over a decade. We remember you. Don't screw us and it'll be better for you in the long term. You won't have to beg for people to join your programs. We'll come to you!

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by 2013

Good Question... I would like to get some cam credits for privates from these companies since i waste my time promoting them and making them money they can pay me in tokens so i can get my jack off on!

Will you push our program, in exchange for cam credits?

That can be arranged!

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by Jayvis

Not enough Tofu

Oh, there is PLENTY of Tofu to go around....but you'll have to share with these ladies.

[AK]

bump for more constructive comments

[duk75]

Originally Posted by Tofu

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?




I know I'm opening the troll-gates here, but it's a serious question, in an attempt to get some opinions on how we can make webcams work for you guys.
.

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting? -Ugly girls; -sassy rude girls; -Terrible or restricted free chat; -Very expensive sign up fare for the clients; -No model referral program; -Less than 30% revenue share; -No payoneer payment; -A lot of restrictions about countries of the users; -No interface in other languages beside english.

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?
- Free sign up, with some benefits from signing up, like unlimited free chat. -Free sign up with 10 free coins or credits or something, so they can get a little taste of what it is to be a full member.

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?
Script to make a pop-up; the live models gallery (the one that shows the currently connected models), dynamic and customizable, like choosing only to show blonde girls 18-22; or something like that. Whitelabel is very important, it should be easy to configure, like with CNAME, instead of other complicated methods; and you should be able to change the text of general parts of the site, for SEO reasons, use a customized template, and be able to use google analytics and google webmaster tools.

Also the idea of giving free cam credits for the affiliates is a great stimuli, as promoting webcams implies a lot of effort, and it is very risky.


And, in other words, a perfect webcam site should be better than myfreecams, which is free for most users. Who is going to pay when they can go there and get things for free?
Of course, they work by tips. I think this is a better way to function for a cams site, than the typical fee per minute per private. And, obviously, I think no one that has ever visited myfreecams has joined another site.

[2013]

Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.

[AllAboutCams]

conversion and reputation

Just because places have good tools means shit to me if i send 50k traffic that converts at 1:800 with someone else and does not convert at 0:50,000 with anouther place ill not use them

Also take dating gold do you still have the pop and need to ask for it to be removed

Its things like that why i would not even try a program

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Oh, there is PLENTY of Tofu to go around....but you'll have to share with these ladies.

Lovin the pudgys

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING.

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

conversion and reputation

Just because places have good tools means shit to me if i send 50k traffic that converts at 1:800 with someone else and does not convert at 0:50,000 with anouther place ill not use them

Also take dating gold do you still have the pop and need to ask for it to be removed

Its things like that why i would not even try a program

When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.

Originally Posted by 2013

Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.

I know you usually say a lot of things in jest, but we've actually just redesigned webcamclub. Everything else you mentioned is standard.

Originally Posted by duk75

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting? -Ugly girls; -sassy rude girls; -Terrible or restricted free chat; -Very expensive sign up fare for the clients; -No model referral program; -Less than 30% revenue share; -No payoneer payment; -A lot of restrictions about countries of the users; -No interface in other languages beside english.

* If cams is so hard to push, what would make it easier?
- Free sign up, with some benefits from signing up, like unlimited free chat. -Free sign up with 10 free coins or credits or something, so they can get a little taste of what it is to be a full member.

* In a perfect world, what would you need from a sponsor to be successful (tools, WL features, etc..)?
Script to make a pop-up; the live models gallery (the one that shows the currently connected models), dynamic and customizable, like choosing only to show blonde girls 18-22; or something like that. Whitelabel is very important, it should be easy to configure, like with CNAME, instead of other complicated methods; and you should be able to change the text of general parts of the site, for SEO reasons, use a customized template, and be able to use google analytics and google webmaster tools.

Also the idea of giving free cam credits for the affiliates is a great stimuli, as promoting webcams implies a lot of effort, and it is very risky.


And, in other words, a perfect webcam site should be better than myfreecams, which is free for most users. Who is going to pay when they can go there and get things for free?
Of course, they work by tips. I think this is a better way to function for a cams site, than the typical fee per minute per private. And, obviously, I think no one that has ever visited myfreecams has joined another site.

That is excellent feedback! Thank you for taking the time. I know cam sponsors (in general) have their work cut out for us. This is the type of feedback that we can use to make improvements and make our programs stand-out. For example; the WL option is being improved upon (with webcamblub), but we are trying to make the best of it. We do realize that this is the most requested feature amongst webmasters/affiliates.

[georgeyw]

- good tools for promo (embeds / rss of who is online etc )
- ease for new members to join
- number of performers online at any one time male / female / whatever
- conversion - if it doesn't convert = big fat waste of time

[Vendzilla]

Layout of a site that makes sense that lets the surfer become a member with ease.
A page showing me something about the model that shows me I'm going to enjoy the show.

The rest is easy

[2013]

Originally Posted by Tofu

When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.



I know you usually say a lot of things in jest, but we've actually just redesigned webcamclub. Everything else you mentioned is standard.




That is excellent feedback! Thank you for taking the time. I know cam sponsors (in general) have their work cut out for us. This is the type of feedback that we can use to make improvements and make our programs stand-out. For example; the WL option is being improved upon (with webcamblub), but we are trying to make the best of it. We do realize that this is the most requested feature amongst webmasters/affiliates.

i am a member of dating gold i am going to look more into webcam club right now.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by 2013

Something not many web cam sites do which i think they should are.... change the page around a bit , make sure you update it daily with special events , special models that are camming ect.. so that people will want to click.

[2013]

Originally Posted by 2intense

says the ro spammer

[2intense]

Originally Posted by 2013

says the ro spammer

get a life loser

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING.

I heard you say this before in other threads. What makes you think they are?

BTW, I'm not saying you're wrong ... just curious.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by Tofu

* What makes a webcam program not worth promoting?

Uncertainty about what the term "lifetime" revshare means. Seems pretty clear to me, but there's at least a couple of programs who have different definitions.

[TheSwed]

Originally Posted by Tofu

When an experienced affiliate signs up for our cams, I do this by default.
Plus, we like our affiliates to contact us. This only gives us an opportunity to
speak directly to and customize our program to suite each aff's needs. We certainly are
not going to sit there and argue with you.

Okay..so you only steals from unexperience affiliates.
Thats good to know

[AK]

Great feedback .... thanks guys.

If you have the traffic, we'll do our best to work with you and and make it worth your effort. Contact Tofu or myself directly, lets make some money ;)

[2013]

Originally Posted by Bjorn

In my opnion Chaturbate isnt worth promoting, since they are sponsoring CP by allowing CP-spreading sites to be their affiliates.

(I have proof, i have informed Chaturbate and nothing is done about this)

post proof or be banned

[Bjorn]

Originally Posted by 2013

post proof or be banned

I can email proof to admin or anyone who want links on email or aim, i cannot post CP links on gfy.

[AK]

bump for more productive feedback.. we're thinking of launching a program where we can pay you per free and additional commission for when the frees convert to sales. need more takers.

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by AK

bump for more productive feedback.. we're thinking of launching a program where we can pay you per free and additional commission for when the frees convert to sales. need more takers.

And if THAT doesn't seal the deal, I'll eat my own hat (any hat you choose, as many know that I am a hat collector)!

[AK]

Originally Posted by Tofu

And if THAT doesn't seal the deal, I'll eat my own hat (any hat you choose, as many know that I am a hat collector)!

I guess I was responding to this post, but instead, i created a new thread.


https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1102359

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by TheSwed

Okay..so you only steals from unexperience affiliates.
Thats good to know

No, sir. I use that as an opportunity to educate the new affiliate.
If they'd like anything added or removed, I do it, as they wish. All they'd
need to do is contact me. I am ALWAYS educating the newbs and
helping out those who are just starting out! The way Silvercash, Curvy Cats
and others did for me, when I was a young webmaster.

[AK]

bump for more feedback, cool payout program are coming soon!

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by duk75

; -terrible or restricted free chat

lj ..............

[Failed]

I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

[AK]

Originally Posted by Failed

I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

Have you hit up Tofu with this ?

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by Failed

I only promote companies that offer white labels. Increasing the value of my domain while making us both money is definitely mutually advantageous. The tools offered to promote my white label aren't incredibly important. Experienced affiliates understand how to make their own tools that work just as well, if not better than the ones commonly offered. The only thing I absolutely hate is not having some control over the white label for SEO purposes. The more SEO options you allow an affiliate to make on the white label the better. If I see your white labels ranking on the page 1 for popular search terms, I'm definitely more likely to sign up and put time into promoting than I would with other companies.

My man...hit me up, please. I'd like to pick your brain and give you a superior payout, in exchange for your time.

[JAPhoto]

Good content, easy payout.

[diablom]

I like seo friendly whitelabels
I promote only these cams, which convert.
Sometimes you have to move to another sponsor and drop the last one who stops converting

[amanda36c]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just QUIT FUCKING SHAVING. I make money, you make money. We're both happy. That's all there is to it. If I make money I will push the hell out of your program. If I make money with you for years I will be the first to promote your new site or program. The same goes for dating. You (not you personally but those doing it in general) may think you are getting away with it or being cute but you're not. The numbers directly influence my decision whether to promote you and how much effort I put into promoting you. You're fucking yourself in addition to me and soon I wont be there for you to fuck so it'll be just YOU fucking yourself.

I wish more sponsors would get this. There are some of us here who have been affiliates for over a decade. We remember you. Don't screw us and it'll be better for you in the long term. You won't have to beg for people to join your programs. We'll come to you!

Signupdammit, your whole thought process could be applied to camming sites, from camgirls and not just affiliates! Holy shit - my sentiments exactly! It seems the sites are all under one mindset and that is to treat everyone in this industry like shit. If they treated us well and paid us what we actually earned, we might *gasp* have the capital to branch out on our own and God help the sites if that should happen. Their very own subcontractors in competition with them! That'd be a nightmare for those that spent all these years trying to contain us, shut us up, control us, etc. Well, maybe you shouldn't have stolen from us. Maybe you should have paid us what we were owed. Maybe you should just take the advice of this forum and Go Fuck Yourself! I love this site!

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by amanda36c

Signupdammit, your whole thought process could be applied to camming sites, from camgirls and not just affiliates! Holy shit - my sentiments exactly! It seems the sites are all under one mindset and that is to treat everyone in this industry like shit. If they treated us well and paid us what we actually earned, we might *gasp* have the capital to branch out on our own and God help the sites if that should happen. Their very own subcontractors in competition with them! That'd be a nightmare for those that spent all these years trying to contain us, shut us up, control us, etc. Well, maybe you shouldn't have stolen from us. Maybe you should have paid us what we were owed. Maybe you should just take the advice of this forum and Go Fuck Yourself! I love this site!

I've never used that smilie before, but thought this was appropriate. lol
Anyway, that mouthful makes me hope you are one of MY affiliates. I dig that
fire in your spirit!

Hit me up. I'll be sure you get paid. On time. Every time.

[BareBacked]

Some of these webcam companies are running 3 year old tours

Get with the program kids. Your stuff does not convert in 2013

[bns666]

long story short... does dg/wcc offer seo friendly white labels?

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by amanda36c

Signupdammit, your whole thought process could be applied to camming sites, from camgirls and not just affiliates! Holy shit - my sentiments exactly! It seems the sites are all under one mindset and that is to treat everyone in this industry like shit. If they treated us well and paid us what we actually earned, we might *gasp* have the capital to branch out on our own and God help the sites if that should happen. Their very own subcontractors in competition with them! That'd be a nightmare for those that spent all these years trying to contain us, shut us up, control us, etc. Well, maybe you shouldn't have stolen from us. Maybe you should have paid us what we were owed. Maybe you should just take the advice of this forum and Go Fuck Yourself! I love this site!

This drama about sites shave and do not pay it is legend in most cases. You can't be that much liar on an internet business really. Those who really do not pay are busted and crucifix in forums immediately. Big traffic sources pull the links very quick to non-payers, as well as models quit cam sites at first delay in a payment. In fact often people say "im not paid" in a forum, and others reply "I was paid", it already means the site pays, the guy perhaps did not read instructions or not even got an account or is a carder.

[bigluv]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

This drama about sites shave and do not pay it is legend in most cases. You can't be that much liar on an internet business really. Those who really do not pay are busted and crucifix in forums immediately. Big traffic sources pull the links very quick to non-payers, as well as models quit cam sites at first delay in a payment. In fact often people say "im not paid" in a forum, and others reply "I was paid", it already means the site pays, the guy perhaps did not read instructions or not even got an account or is a carder.

How naive. It happens all the time and it is very obvious to good affiliates. It's just difficult to prove, and, a bunch of cock sucker cheerleaders jump all over anyone bringing up any questions.

Look at MR and how long they got away with all the things they got away with, and see how many idiots were hanging off their cock.

IMO it's just the tip of the iceberg.

And, might I add, all us affiliates know that when a program does shady things to the surfer, or other shitty things to affiliates [other than obvious shaving] and justify it however, it does not fool anyone. We know at that point that that program will fuck us given the chance and ability to get away with it.

The main problem with this equation is that the feedback loop takes years to close. Affiliates may put up with a certain amount of fuckery if we're still doing decently in the cost/benefit. At some point it comes home to roost though.

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by bns666

long story short... does dg/wcc offer seo friendly white labels?

Yes, indeed we do! I'll have one custom built for you, if you'll let me.



This is the perfect opportunity!

[bns666]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Yes, indeed we do! I'll have one custom built for you, if you'll let me.



This is the perfect opportunity!

e-mailed you.

[Jel]

referring url stats for traffic as well as sales

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by Tofu

I know you usually say a lot of things in jest, but we've actually just redesigned webcamclub. Everything else you mentioned is standard.

LOL ya looks very familiar

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by 2013

says the ro spammer

what is RO ?

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by bns666

e-mailed you.

Got it! Also, swamped with signups so there may be a slight delay.

[PornoBug]

I'd like a white label that is totally customizable, like with the ability to add my own widgets to the site.