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Old 05-01-2012, 04:14 PM   #1
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Good way to store internal hard drives? (using hard drive dock)

I just picked up a hard drive dock and trying to think of a good way to store my 3.5 drives so I can get to them with ease and keep them safe and clean in the process. Sort of like a mini file system for them.

Ideas?
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:37 PM   #2
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My hard drive dock looks kinda like this...



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Old 05-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #3
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http://www.wiebetech.com/products/cases.php


I must have a hundred of those by now
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:49 PM   #4
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My hard drive dock looks kinda like this...



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That is exactly what I'm trying to avoid, but I'm off to a bad start already.


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I must have a hundred of those by now
That is EXACTLY what I had in mind. Bingo. Thank you.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:47 PM   #5
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We keep the anti-static bags and boxes the come in. The boxes are great for RMAing a drive. (OEM boxes, not the big bulky retail ones.)
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:55 PM   #6
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I've been looking for something like a big pelican case with a foam insert that would take 20 or so. That would be ideal for me.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:02 PM   #7
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Go real simple and get this, and just label the end of your HD what content you have:
http://usb.brando.com/hdd-paper-stor...2c044d015.html

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http://usb.brando.com/3-5-hdd-protec...1c044d015.html
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:36 PM   #8
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I just have boxes with foam that stores 16 in each. I have no idea what to do with the 30/40 working ones I still have.

I wish I can do some sort of raid cluster with them, any size any hard drive just swap as they die.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:46 PM   #9
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I just have boxes with foam that stores 16 in each. I have no idea what to do with the 30/40 working ones I still have.

I wish I can do some sort of raid cluster with them, any size any hard drive just swap as they die.
Either of the popular Linux file server distros can do that, or of course if you're a geek you can use your choice of distro. The magic bit is "LVM mirroring". With LVM, all the drives are just one big storage pool (or any as many pools and subpools as you want.) LVM mirroring puts a copy of each extent on two drives, so it's like RAID 1 except the drives don't have to match.

I'm active with LVM-devel since it's important to Clonebox, so I can help with any LVM questions.

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:12 PM   #10
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I've been considering setting up FlexRaid - http://www.flexraid.com/

It's quite interesting, letting you use drives that already have data on them, any size drives, and can even do network shares.

It's "snapshot" raid though, not "live", which suits me just fine for my home environment. I'm just sick of losing all my data when I lose a drive, and it's only a matter of time before more go.

What's LVM like vs ZFS? It seems like most home file servers are run with ZFS these days
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:54 PM   #11
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I just picked up a hard drive dock and trying to think of a good way to store my 3.5 drives so I can get to them with ease and keep them safe and clean in the process. Sort of like a mini file system for them.

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I've got so many I have no idea what to do with them. I put them in a gallon size ziplock bag and stick them on the shelf until I need them. I do that with the externals too. The power supply, usb cord and case go into the bag so I don't have to worry about the cords. Keeps them dust free and dry. It's a fucking mess.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:00 PM   #12
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I must have a hundred of those by now
That's awesome. I need about 25.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:16 PM   #13
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They are very similar, especially now that LVM has snapshot pools. Before, you'd set a maximum size for a snapshot. LVM is more flexible, Zfs more integrated. A big difference is that LVM ZFS is both volume manager and filesystem in one, which is convenient for the common case, but limiting. LVM separates volume management from filesystems. LVM gives you volumes as block devices on which you can use any filesystem - regular filesystems like ext4, cluster filesystems like gfs, or you can build raid atop LVM, or even use LVM volumes as the devices on which you build other volume groups. We do that with virtual servers - the virtualized machine mounts volumes it builds from it's "disks", and those disks are volume on the host system, which are built atop volumes from the SAN.

That is, like mdadm, iscsi, etc. LVM takes some block devices, pools them, snapshots them, etc. and then exports - block devices! That means you can stack physical drives, SAN LUNs, LVM, raid, etc. in any order you choose. You can put a filesystem on a volume, or a volume can be a virtual disk image, or ... anything you can imagine. You don't have the filesystem forcibly inserted along with the volume manager like Z file system.

Adding and especially removing drives is a lot simpler in LVM, simply:
vgreduce mygroup /dev/sde

All of that flexibilty comes partly from being less integrated than ZFS. For example, flexible because the filesystem is separate, and that imies you need to create the filesystem (format the volume) separately from creating the volume.

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Old 05-01-2012, 10:34 PM   #14
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I had one similar to this with my IDE drives back in the day when they were only 50GBs each

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